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Prize Winning Sex Film Drastically Cut For Japan

Postby Mulboyne » Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:03 am

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"Shortbus", the critically acclaimed film by John Cameron Mitchell, is opening in Japan. If you really want to see it, though, then you might be better off getting the DVD from overseas. At a press conference in Japan, the director explained that he was asked by the industry watchdog to make a total of 100 cuts from the print which was shown in the US (Japanese news link here). The film is sexually explicit - the opening scenes feature straight sex, an S&M dominatrix and a character performing fellatio on himself. All shots of genitals have been edited according to the industry's voluntary code. One of the main characters is played by Sook-Yin Lee who was almost fired from her radio show on Canada's CBC for taking the role until a public outcry caused them to back down. Mitchell is well known in Japan for his earlier film "Hedwig and the Angry Inch" which also ran successfully as a musical in Japan, sponsored by Nippon Broadcasting. Local distributors were keen to get the film because they believe that the Hedwig audience will turn out to see it. The news coverage of the cuts might even bring in the porn crowd to see what the fuss is all about.
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Postby Red Floyd » Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:47 am

You'd think this sorta thing wouldn't happen what with the rich Japanese tradition of Pinku-eiga.
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Postby Captain Japan » Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:06 am

I talked to the manager at Cinema Rise in Shibuya about this film. She said then (about 2 months ago) that she was thinking about how to market it to the Japanese audience. Sounds like a tough one.
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Postby xenomorph42 » Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:16 am

Oh, as if there isn`t enough sex oozing out of every corner in Japan. Everywhere you look in magazines, sex shops, nightly adult entertainment hot spots, TV, phone sales staff, etc, etc..
To panic about the sexual innuendo`s in this movie and to chop it up like Japan is some sort of Christian bastion of public and conservative morality is so ludicrous! Approaching the issue as if it were the first time, they saw an "Hard"R-rated movie.:confused:
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Postby maraboutslim » Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:35 am

a man sucking himself off is not "innuendo". i'm assuming they just blurred the naughty bits like in j-porn, right? that's to be expected.
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Postby Jack » Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:36 pm

I saw this film when it came out in Canada and I walked out about two-thirds of the way into it. It's a boring Porno movie with lots of gay action. The Korean lead actress is a famous Canadian TV and radio personality. I was shocked to see her do this film. Needless to say after this film she hardly gets any mainstream TV work.

Shortbus played in repertory theaters here, not mainstream cinemas.

The pathetic plot is a sex therapist who has never experienced an orgasm and finally does. Whoopie!!

Shortbus belongs in XXX cinemas.
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Postby American Oyaji » Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:19 am

You know what is funny. J-porn sometimes is NOT "porn". It's fantasy. Some actresses only suck dick and fake the rest. IE, no real penetration during sex. I got to see some pre-censored Jporn and I was surprised about it. Also the "cum" is simulated as well sometimes. It's a combination of egg white, sugar and milk.

I think someone posted a link here a while back that has a list of porn actresses and which ones did real penetration and which ones did fake penetrations.

AFAIK now it is mostly real sex due to lower pixelation mosaic and successful penile enlargement surgeries.
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Postby Jack » Thu Jun 07, 2007 3:02 am

American Oyaji wrote:You know what is funny. J-porn sometimes is NOT "porn". It's fantasy. Some actresses only suck dick and fake the rest. IE, no real penetration during sex. I got to see some pre-censored Jporn and I was surprised about it. Also the "cum" is simulated as well sometimes. It's a combination of egg white, sugar and milk.

I think someone posted a link here a while back that has a list of porn actresses and which ones did real penetration and which ones did fake penetrations.

AFAIK now it is mostly real sex due to lower pixelation mosaic and successful penile enlargement surgeries.
My uncle was friends with a 893 group in Hachinohe and he got a lot of pre censored porn that he shared with me.



AO, this topic is very dear to me just because I had (I repeat "had") an obsession of doing it with a J-porn star :-)
Anyway, during the course of the pursuit I got acquainted with a porn actress with whome sadly I never consumated the relationship. She said that 100% of porn is real sex today. No one films simulation anymore. However, sometimes the ejaculation is simulated to make it appear like the actor is shooting a big load or when it is done on the actress' face if she doesn't want to do it on the face. This information is 4 years old but I don't think it has changed much since then.

In mainstream Hollywood movies many directors are requiring actual sex during love scenes to make it look real although they don't show the sex like in Shortbus. I know this because that's what Michelle Pfeiffer said in an interview she gave to a magazine a few years ago. She said you try to do those scenes as quickly as possible and hope the director will not ask you to repeat it.
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Postby American Oyaji » Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:57 pm

Hmm. It's funny you say that because I've got the same info and I wonder what your sources are. Not Ms Pfeiffer mind, you but the fact that the sex is now real in Hollyweird. As for J-porn, I'll have to take your word for it since my info is out of date in that regards.
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Postby Charles » Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:15 pm

Jack wrote:In mainstream Hollywood movies many directors are requiring actual sex during love scenes to make it look real although they don't show the sex like in Shortbus. I know this because that's what Michelle Pfeiffer said in an interview she gave to a magazine a few years ago.

Yeah, everything you read in People Magazine is the absolute truth. Nobody ever lies in order to hype a film.
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You know, real filmmakers use "genital covers" that are flesh-colored garments glued directly to the skin, so that the actors can show maximum skin without actually bumping uglies. And Michelle Pfeiffer is married to a multifucking billionaire media mogul, if you dip your wick in Michelle, you would never work in Hollywood again.
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Postby Jack » Fri Jun 08, 2007 2:41 am

Charles wrote:Yeah, everything you read in People Magazine is the absolute truth. Nobody ever lies in order to hype a film.
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You know, real filmmakers use "genital covers" that are flesh-colored garments glued directly to the skin, so that the actors can show maximum skin without actually bumping uglies. And Michelle Pfeiffer is married to a multifucking billionaire media mogul, if you dip your wick in Michelle, you would never work in Hollywood again.


I know for certain that I am way above you in being able to tell what may be true and what not in magazines. So if you think that some magazines would print bullshit to sell papers then you can rest very very assured that I have also thought of that. Now if you think Michelle Pfeiffer was telling the world a lie by saying they performed real sex in the love scene of a particular movie to hype it you are even more stupid than I thought.

Oh yeah, Bo Derek is married to the director John Derek and she also complained on TV that in the movie "10" she had to have real sex and was displeased with the director who was asking for more sex scenes than what was in her contract. Her husband and her ended up suing the director although I don't know what heppened next. So your explanation about Pfeiffer being married to some hotshot doesn't hold.

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Postby Mulboyne » Fri Jun 08, 2007 3:08 am

Saying that sex scenes in a Hollywood film are real is a standard part of the promotional kit. Just as an actor's handlers encourage him to say he does his own stunts. In fact, sex scenes have become something of a liability at the box office. Look at last year's top grossing pictures and you'll see that Hollywood has shied away from graphic sexual portrayal because the studios want a lower MPAA rating to get a wider audience.
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Postby Charles » Fri Jun 08, 2007 3:49 am

Jack wrote:I know for certain that I am way above you in being able to tell what may be true and what not in magazines.

Yeah right Jack. I used to work in the LA film industry. Yeah, the real Hollywood studios, not the San Fernando Valley. We made a lot of money fooling idiots like you into mistaking illusion for reality.
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Postby Jack » Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:28 am

Mulboyne wrote:Saying that sex scenes in a Hollywood film are real is a standard part of the promotional kit. Just as an actor's handlers encourage him to say he does his own stunts. In fact, sex scenes have become something of a liability at the box office. Look at last year's top grossing pictures and you'll see that Hollywood has shied away from graphic sexual portrayal because the studios want a lower MPAA rating to get a wider audience.


This Hollywood thing is what I read in a magazine it could be real or it could not be real. Maybe it is not real. I'm not saying that the film makers would show the explicit scenes. They would cut those but apparently the whole acting becomes more believable. I recall having heard the director of the Hong Kong film "In the Mood for Love" with Maggie Cheung saying that they made the love scene in the first day of shooting to establish a connection between the actors and then he cut the whole thing out of the film. Go figure that guy. Anyway, no big deal if it's not real guys. Not worth calling each other names over this. :-) Chuckey boy, if you worked in Hollywood good on ya.
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Postby GomiGirl » Fri Jun 08, 2007 2:19 pm

Does the constant backpeddling hurt your arse or are you on an excercise program to shed the excess lard?
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Postby Greji » Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:28 pm

GomiGirl wrote:Does the constant backpeddling hurt your arse


Not as much as that Wallaroo did!
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Postby Jack » Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:45 pm

GomiGirl wrote:Does the constant backpeddling hurt your arse or are you on an excercise program to shed the excess lard?


There is no backpeddling on my part. But even if there is, then so be it. All I know is that most directors now require real sex to be performed during love scenes in movies even if they don't show the whole thing. So when Sharon Stone has her legs wrapped around Mel Gibson she really has his dick in her pussy. But some keep insisting that's not the case. It's not worth arguing so I move on.
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Postby amdg » Sat Jun 09, 2007 4:00 pm

Charles wrote:Yeah right Jack. I used to work in the LA film industry. Yeah, the real Hollywood studios, not the San Fernando Valley. We made a lot of money fooling idiots like you into mistaking illusion for reality.


Just for the benefit of any of the innocent people viewing who might be mislead by how Charles misrepresents himself, I'd like to offer the following true information:

Charles lives in buttfuck Iowa.

The most money he ever made was when his mother died. It was not "a lot" of money by any normal person's standards.
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Postby Mulboyne » Sat Jun 09, 2007 4:24 pm

Jack wrote:All I know is that most directors now require real sex to be performed during love scenes in movies even if they don't show the whole thing.

I'm sorry, but that is wrong. Here's an example of how the PR usually plays out:

[url=http://www.pr-inside.com/entertainment-blog/2007/02/01/miller-and-christensen-scenes-not-real/]MILLER AND CHRISTENSEN SCENES ‘]
SIENNA MILLER has laughed off claims her sex scenes in FACTORY GIRL with co-star HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN were real - insisting she’s just a good actor. The rumours started after the pair became close during the shoot and were exacerbated on the film’s release, when cinema-goers got to see graphic scenes of the couple cavorting. Director GEORGE HICKENLOOPER fueled speculation when quizzed if the sex was real, by replying, "I can’t comment. You’ll have to ask Sienna about it." But Miller is keen to quash the claims, her publicist insisting, "When you do a love scene there is a minimum of five people in the room. "There’s no real sex and the scene proves she knows how to give a good performance."
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Postby Tsuru » Sat Jun 09, 2007 5:18 pm

amdg wrote:Just for the benefit of any of the innocent people viewing who might be mislead by how Charles misrepresents himself, I'd like to offer the following true information:

Charles lives in buttfuck Iowa.

The most money he ever made was when his mother died. It was not "a lot" of money by any normal person's standards.
So he isn't a fluffer then?
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Postby Charles » Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:58 am

amdg wrote:Charles lives in buttfuck Iowa.

True, but I lived and worked in Hollywood for 15 years.
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