How do you conect internet in your country???

[s.j]

Hi, I'd like to ask you guys about internet.
I just wonder how do you conect internet in your country???
Actually I had a part-time job as a salesperson of a internet provider service.
In Japan, we have to apply a internet provider service which we choose at first, and we have to pay about $40-50 per month.
How about in your country??? If you live in an apartment, you can pay the rent including internet charge????
How about speed of internet???
Please give me some answers!!!!!
Thank you.

[FG Lurker]

I use two tin cans and a bit of string. Error correction's a bitch, but unless it's raining I can get 30 bps through it.

[Taro Toporific]

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On the ranch in Colorado I use free community WiFi, 500kbs.
In Chicago I get an Cable TV and 1.5M Internet, in my condo fees (about $50/month seperately ).

[puargs]

At the University, I get a free T1 patch-in, but at my apartment I can either get DSL or Cable for about 30 a month (cable must also be purchased with a cable TV plan). Bit pricey, I don't think I'll spring for it next year.

[Skankster]

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Hell Im in that industry too... And I dont even know!!!

What the hell do they do in bushland???

Come to think of it,,, I did get my mom dial-up via earthlink.
I did it with one of those cd's in the mail

[earthlink.net]

[Andocrates]

In America there are 3 main ways.

1.) The company who delivers cable TV can bring high-speed internet into your home by using the same cable/wire. This is important when you think about the size and scale of running wires all over a large country like America, into millions of homes. The cable TV cannot use the telephone poles that the telephone company placed, they had to rewire every home in America themselves. This is also why fiber optic internet in America is just a pipe-dream. It's become to difficult and expensive to re-wire America.


2. The phone company can provide DSL service but they have to run a new wire, they can't use a normal phone line. But it's no problem for them since they have a telephone pole right outside your window.

3.) You can still use a telephone and a modem. This method is slow but still widely used.

[GuyJean]

...they can't use a normal phone line.

Really? Why's that? I thought regular phone lines could handle DSL.. I guess Japan has super-duper phone lines?.. The one into my apartment looks like it's 50 years old..

GJ

[Skankster]

In America cable TV can bring high-speed internet into your home by using the same cable/wire.

Thats not high speed cable. Thats a serial line. The MAX you get is what??? say 1.5 mg? Phhhhhtt.

[Charles]

In America there are 3 main ways.
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2. The phone company can provide DSL service but they have to run a new wire, they can't use a normal phone line. But it's no problem for them since they have a telephone pole right outside your window.

They use regular old phone lines for conventional DSL, the lines just have to be "qualified" as capable of carrying DSL signals. You have to be within a certain distance of the main phone switch, and obviously the lines have to be clean and clear of noise so you can get the best speed. When I had DSL installed, I was near the distance limit, I had a bad line, so they "switched pairs," which is the same thing they do if you complain your phone service is noisy.

I'm paying about $40 for 1284/867 ADSL, plus about $15 for a block of 5 static IPs, a charge that really irritates me because it doesn't cost QWest anything to issue static IPs. I'd accept a one-time administrative fee, but there is no logical reason why a block of just 5 IP numbers should cost ANYTHING per month.

BTW, I hear that some larger US cities are rolling out a new form of DSL over Fiber (I forget the acronym for it). It's insanely fast, like 15Gbit downloads, and insanely cheap, like $25 a month. There was a story on Slashdot about the rollout in a city in Florida, it was a disaster because the contractors kept tunnelling through sewer lines, causing homes to flood and sinkholes to form. It should work better in other metro areas, I hope.

[kotatsuneko]

by paying thru the nose..

[Andocrates]

My cable is 5mbps in, very fast and modern. But the upstream speed is so absurdly slow it drives me insane.


Before the cable I had DSL, they had to run a new wire because the old phone line wasn't insulated properly and had a lot of noise, or something like that. Could be different in different areas, but I have never seen SWB do a dsl without putting a new line in.

[plaid_knight]

I use Clearwire (Local wireless high speed internet).
half the speed of high speed internet, half the cost.

It's decent.

What kind of internet services would you guys recommend
for use in Japan? I don't want to pay by the minute. If possible,
I'd like to pay $30 - $60 for all you can use high speed stuff.

[kotatsuneko]

hikari fibre!

[Watcher]

From my phone company... 1.5m... $24.95/month (Canadian).

I wonder... how fast is the Japanese internet? Last I saw Yahoo had 45m... but what does that really translate into? I mean, isn't your download/upload speed really depending on the server you are connecting to? Can you download off of a site at some ridiculous speed? The fastest I ever got (there at 8m or here at 1.5m) was about 200kbps. Anybody know how to get faster?

[cenic]

... double post ,sorry.

[cenic]

I use two tin cans and a bit of string. Error correction's a bitch, but unless it's raining I can get 30 bps through it.

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In America cable TV can bring high-speed internet into your home by using the same cable/wire.

Thats not high speed cable. Thats a serial line. The MAX you get is what??? say 1.5 mg? Phhhhhtt.

Umm wha? 1.5 milligrams or mega-giga-flops? Anyway, cable does utilize the same coaxial cable that your television uses. Cable is shared bandwidth, but it's a missnomor the majority of the time that consumption will exceed bandwidth.

In America there are 3 main ways.
[snip]
I'm paying about $40 for 1284/867 ADSL, plus about $15 for a block of 5 static IPs, a charge that really irritates me because it doesn't cost QWest anything to issue static IPs. I'd accept a one-time administrative fee, but there is no logical reason why a block of just 5 IP numbers should cost ANYTHING per month.

BTW, I hear that some larger US cities are rolling out a new form of DSL over Fiber (I forget the acronym for it). It's insanely fast, like 15Gbit downloads, and insanely cheap, like $25 a month. There was a story on Slashdot about the rollout in a city in Florida, it was a disaster because the contractors kept tunnelling through sewer lines, causing homes to flood and sinkholes to form. It should work better in other metro areas, I hope.

You should consider Speakeasy DSL if you want static IPs and actual open ports to do stuff with.

That fiber biz is merely to shake the industry and is pretty much vaporware. The future is WiMax - WiMAX provides metropolitan area network connectivity at speeds of up to 75 Mb/sec. WiMAX systems can be used to transmit signal as far as 30 miles. However, on the average a WiMAX base-station installation will likely cover between three to five miles.

Speakeasy and Intel have teamed up to provide this in Seattle very soon!

[Gafvert]

Hi, I'd like to ask you guys about internet.

Shoot.

I just wonder how do you conect internet in your country???

Mostly, dial, DSL, Cable and fiberoptics.

Actually I had a part-time job as a salesperson of a internet provider service.

Had?

In Japan, we have to apply a internet provider service which we choose at first, and we have to pay about $40-50 per month.

Join the club. 42 USD

How about in your country??? If you live in an apartment, you can pay the rent including internet charge????

Yes, its on the same bill.

How about speed of internet???

100Mbit or 10MB/s, but i never really came up to 10MB/s just 9.7 once.

[Ol Dirty Gaijin]

[quote="FG Lurker"]I use two tin cans and a bit of string. Error correction's a bitch, but unless it's raining I can get 30 bps through it.
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You should upgrade your tin cans. Avoid the tomato cans as the acid content of the tomato tends to degrade the pickup quality. Milo tins are excellent and come in a variety of sizes to connect to most PCs and are can be found in most countries.
Do not buy second hand cans, only off the shelf. There has been a Nigerian Can Scam lately where people have been ripped off and getting bottles, not cans and incorrect installation manuals. Take care people.



C/O 419 eater

[FG Lurker]

I use two tin cans and a bit of string. Error correction's a bitch, but unless it's raining I can get 30 bps through it.
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You should upgrade your tin cans. Avoid the tomato cans as the acid content of the tomato tends to degrade the pickup quality. Milo tins are excellent and come in a variety of sizes to connect to most PCs and are can be found in most countries.
Do not buy second hand cans, only off the shelf. There has been a Nigerian Can Scam lately where people have been ripped off and getting bottles, not cans and incorrect installation manuals. Take care people.

C/O 419 eater

Glad that someone else found a bit of humour in my post! Everyone else has been so serious.

In reality I use 40Mbps ADSL at home and 100Mbps fibre at work. I have a dedicated 100Mb fibre line to my desk actually. For "testing" purposes.

[Charles]

You should consider Speakeasy DSL if you want static IPs and actual open ports to do stuff with.

That fiber biz is merely to shake the industry and is pretty much vaporware. The future is WiMax - WiMAX provides metropolitan area network connectivity at speeds of up to 75 Mb/sec. WiMAX systems can be used to transmit signal as far as 30 miles. However, on the average a WiMAX base-station installation will likely cover between three to five miles.

Speakeasy and Intel have teamed up to provide this in Seattle very soon!

I checked on Speakeasy ADSL, it's way more expensive than what I'm paying. I mean, WAY more expensive. But thanks for the recommendation anyway. I'm pretty well covered with QWest, they let me run servers and all my ports are open and run full speed, they're not throttled in any way that I can tell.

WiMax sounds good, provided you're in a major metro area. I'm not. Hell, I can't even get cellular coverage at my home, I'm in a dead zone due to the hills surrounding my house. They put up another cel tower to cover the dead zone and I still couldn't get cel calls at home, so I cancelled my service.

Anyway, you should check out DSLreports.com and look at the reports from people with fiber DSL. It's definitely not vaporware, I've seen reports from several cities. There's also a new variant of DSL over copper that's also breaking speed records. So if someone wants to shake up the DSL biz, that's mighty fine by me, if QWest won't deliver higher speeds, someone will undercut them with a better package, and take all their customers, and I'll go with them.

[s.j]

Hi, Thank you so much for lots of answers for me.
It would help me to use internet when I stay in abroad!!!!
There are some questions......
If you wanna use internet in Japan, you can choose an internet provider service from ISDN or ADSL, Hikari, Air H".
ISDL is kinda old style to use internet in Japan, and the speed is too slow.....
ADSL is that you can downlord in high speed. It's about Max 1.5M to Max 50M. There are some courses each provider service, and the charge is depend on courses. However you can choose the speed depend on area you live from NTT. If you live so far from NTT, the speed would be slower.
Hikari is more faster than ADSL. The speed is Max 100M. The charge,,,,,eo is 5200yen, NTT is about 7000yen. If you wanna use Hikari, eo and NTT wire a house for Hikari cable.
Air H" is you can use internet anywhere.However the speed is tooooo slow.
I recomend you to try ADSL at fast.
Thank you.

[This is a pen]

<<<In Japan, we have to apply a internet provider service which we choose at first, and we have to pay about $40-50 per month.>>>


What???

I Live in Tokyo, I Have ADSL. Through NTT
It's about 2,000 (~$20) Yen a month.

You are getting ripped off if you are spending $40 to $50 a month

[FG Lurker]

<<<In Japan, we have to apply a internet provider service which we choose at first, and we have to pay about $40-50 per month.>>>


What???

I Live in Tokyo, I Have ADSL. Through NTT
It's about 2,000 (~$20) Yen a month.

You are getting ripped off if you are spending $40 to $50 a month

NTT provides the ADSL line through their FLETS program, but does not offer ISP service directly.

If you have a FLETS line you will be paying for that plus the provider cost of someone like OCN (NTT subsidiary). When you add these together it is around 4,000 to 5,000 yen per month.

Or you can use one of the large providers that does not go through FLETS. ODN is a good example. You get the ADSL line/modem and provider for around 2000yen in total. Plus a small monthly charge on your NTT bill.

As an aside, "This is a pen", this is a quote button icon image: Each message has one. You'll find it makes quoting messages and attributing them to the original poster much easier...

[This is a pen]

Or you can use one of the large providers that does not go through FLETS. ODN is a good example. You get the ADSL line/modem and provider for around 2000yen in total. Plus a small monthly charge on your NTT bill.

You might want to check out Asahi-net

......... I think it's 400 -500 yen.

Good Luck.