The End of Shinsuke Shimada?

[Mulboyne]

It's actually not trivial. Shimada wasn't especially popular in the industry, mainly because he was such an arsehole to a lot of people, but he was a reliable banker. With so many long-running shows being cancelled and ratings dropping through the floor, there was a large vested interest in keeping him in the business. He's the lynchpin for six shows on TV right now and the stations haven't groomed anyone else to fill that vacuum.

The fact his actions could no longer be defended means that no-one who wants a mainstream career in entertainment will feel comfortable about getting cosy with gangsters. It doesn't mean they'll disappear from the business overnight but the evidence trails are more numerous these days. Email messaging leaves records and anyone can take a sneaky picture of you with a mobster.

It's clear that the evidence of Shimada's involvement with the mob was discovered by the Osaka police during a separate investigation. No-one has yet suggested that Shimada did anything illegal so there's no reason why his involvement should have become public. However, the police leaked the news and the message is that they are prepared to do the same again in the future.

[canman]

Any bets on him making another comeback? He did it once, and as Mulboyne stated, he really didn't do anything illegal, so who knows. 6 shows is a lot to replace. I guess we will be stuck with more Owarai comedians.

[matsuki]

Any bets on him making another comeback? He did it once, and as Mulboyne stated, he really didn't do anything illegal

...that we know about Being such a hard ass, I wouldn't expect him to resign over the simple discovery that he had a relationship with some yaks. For all we know, he's under investigation for something really embarrassing and he is bowing out now, hoping to save face by being out of the public spotlight by the time he is formally charged.

[Yokohammer]

I think it's pretty clear that he wants to quit. He's been wanting to get out for some time.
He has other things on his plate, and this is a perfect excuse.

[matsuki]

I think it's pretty clear that he wants to quit. He's been wanting to get out for some time.
He has other things on his plate, and this is a perfect excuse.

Don't kill my dream hammer, he's going to jail! It's only a matter of time!

[Dreamy_Peach]

He's the lynchpin for six shows on TV right now

That says a lot about Japanese TV.

[MrUltimateGaijin]

That says a lot about Japanese TV.

yeah, its for retards.

[Kanchou]

Any bets on him making another comeback? He did it once, and as Mulboyne stated, he really didn't do anything illegal, so who knows. 6 shows is a lot to replace. I guess we will be stuck with more Owarai comedians.

If they made Tousouchuu: Run For Money a weekly program, I would totally watch that shit. Japanese TV has a few great hits, problem is that bottom basement budget means the good stuff is essentially a once-every-six-months special event, like Sasuke.

Of course, Japan somehow manages to be more celebrity obsessed than the US when it comes to TV, so we see the same faking faces all day every day. Even on game shows.

[Coligny]

yeah, its for retards.

Jersey Shore anyone ?

[MrUltimateGaijin]

but JTV is based on variety shows, the US is still not like that

[Catoneinutica]

Jersey Shore anyone ?

Coligny wants to "hook up" with Snooki.

[Coligny]

Hunt her with an explosive harpoon for scientific purpose...

1- TIJ after all

2-That land monster is quite close to mobydick... only dumber...

[Coligny]

but JTV is based on variety shows, the US is still not like that

Jerry Springer ?
Daily Show ?
...




Fox News...



...

[American Oyaji]

but JTV is based on variety shows, the US is still not like that

The U.S. used to be like that.

Carol Burnett Show, HeeHaw, Dean Martin Show, Laugh-In

There were more, but the U.S. grew past it.

[Coligny]

The U.S. used to be like that.

Carol Burnett Show, HeeHaw, Dean Martin Show, Laugh-In

There were more, but the U.S. grew past it.

SNL ?
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[American Oyaji]

LOL! I don't really like SNL, so I didn't think of it.

[IparryU]

well... a lot of famous people came from SNL and for the most part were all... funny.

this JTV shit is the same shit, brainless/titless/assless/jaggertooth talento, stupid guys slapping each other on the head, guys dressing as girls, girls eating food and saying ehhh, oishiii!!, guys getting naked, trannys...

just never ends with JTV

[Samurai_Jerk]

Yes, there is a lot of shit TV produced in the US. I'm even willing to give Japan a pass on their shitty comedy shows since humor doesn't translate well but get back to me when Japan has made anything like The Sopranos or Breaking Bad.

[Iraira]

Yes, there is a lot of shit TV produced in the US. I'm even willing to give Japan a pass on their shitty comedy shows since humor doesn't translate well but get back to me when Japan has made anything like The Sopranos or Breaking Bad.

Maybe I haven't been here long enough, but you maybe onto something. Many TV shows have become a part of American culture, even though they're only seen in reruns for the past 20-30-40 years. Shows like All in the Family, and MASH tackled social and global issues, which no J-TV show (even today)could even take a glimpse at. This may be slightly explained by the mono-culture in Japan and the lack of a 1960s "revolution" in Japan.
It seems that J-TV (with the exception of documentaries) is geared to five or six types of fodder: 1) owarai, 2) variety shows with the same guests, 3) food shows (which I can deal with), 4) muzak shows, 5) police dramas, and 6) the person who must ganbarou, fail, and ganbarou again in order to learn a lesson about life, which is ganbarou, gaman, and shouganai.

[IparryU]

It seems that J-TV (with the exception of documentaries) is geared to five or six types of fodder:
1) owarai,
2) variety shows with the same guests,
3) food shows (which I can deal with),
4) muzak shows,
5) police dramas, and
6) the person who must ganbarou, fail, and ganbarou again in order to learn a lesson about life, which is ganbarou, gaman, and shouganai.

:nihonjin::wall:

[Dreamy_Peach]

but get back to me when Japan has made anything like The Sopranos or Breaking Bad.

or the Wire.

or the Simpsons.

or any decent drama, documentary on wildlife, nature, history, economics....

[Coligny]

Maybe I haven't been here long enough, but you maybe onto something. Many TV shows have become a part of American culture, even though they're only seen in reruns for the past 20-30-40 years. Shows like All in the Family, and MASH tackled social and global issues, which no J-TV show (even today)could even take a glimpse at. This may be slightly explained by the mono-culture in Japan and the lack of a 1960s "revolution" in Japan.

Have you spoken to or seen someone born after the end of the Vietnam war ? Because there have been quite some good show made after M.A.S.H. ya know...

Tour of duty, The Simpsons, X-Files(*), the New BSG (who was incredibly powerfull when watched parralel to the guantanamo/abu grahib clusterfuck). More minor but still picturing well their era (read, fooking stuck in the cold war, no kid born after 1990 will be able to understand the context): Airwolf, the Equalizer (with an awesome Edward Woodward).


(*) If you prefer staying in your time capsule, Try to catch the english tv show "Doom Watch" it's a 60' era wonder who share a lot of common feature, while being much more down to earth and without weapon grade cock blocking redhead.

Now in defense of them japanjins... Watch again the first episode of the first season of Space Pirate Captain Harlock. It's the most hamfisted criticism of japanese society seen since... well... forever I think...

For a much more recent approach of current madness, "Better of Ted" there is at least 2 season available. It's a story of an overachiever BOSS'ing in a Megacorp(tm) (actually Veridian Dynamic) doing anything including trying to weaponize pumpkins, totally nonsensical but ringing sooo truee...

[Iraira]

Have you spoken to or seen someone born after the end of the Vietnam war ? Because there have been quite some good show made after M.A.S.H. ya know...

Tour of duty, The Simpsons, X-Files(*), the New BSG (who was incredibly powerfull when watched parralel to the guantanamo/abu grahib clusterfuck). More minor but still picturing well their era (read, fooking stuck in the cold war, no kid born after 1990 will be able to understand the context): Airwolf, the Equalizer (with an awesome Edward Woodward).


(*) If you prefer staying in your time capsule, Try to catch the english tv show "Doom Watch" it's a 60' era wonder who share a lot of common feature, while being much more down to earth and without weapon grade cock blocking redhead.

Now in defense of them japanjins... Watch again the first episode of the first season of Space Pirate Captain Harlock. It's the most hamfisted criticism of japanese society seen since... well... forever I think...

For a much more recent approach of current madness, "Better of Ted" there is at least 2 season available. It's a story of an overachiever BOSS'ing in a Megacorp(tm) (actually Veridian Dynamic) doing anything including trying to weaponize pumpkins, totally nonsensical but ringing sooo truee...

I'll confess that I really don't watch much TV, except for sports. By avoiding the tube, I can spend more time chasing and subduing females, and then ordering them to put the lotion back in the bucket.

[Mulboyne]

[Ganma]

[Kanchou]

Good Japanese TV shows are sort of like the smartest kids at special schools... the best of the best might be pretty bright, but the average is still way below that of American TV.

I for one like watching the KENMIN SHOW. It's edutainment. lol.

(I can't believe my Mozilla spellcheck thinks that edutainment is a real word)

[Dreamy_Peach]

I don't care for a lot of Japanese TV but it's not an entirely fair comparison to look at the highlights of TV overseas and ignore the rest. I posted some comments on FG back in 2005 which I believe are still valid:

Interesting posts.

However, on any given random night say at 7 or 8pm, it's highly possible that I would find at least something to watch on the TV at home in the UK or elsewhere.

In Japan that is unfortunately impossible.

I think its a very negative thing, both for Japanese and for foreigners interested in Japan, or for Japan developing a voice in the world. METI talk of cultural exports and 'cool Japan' and TV broadcasting and quality films would do a lot to strengthen the image of Japan overseas and make people more interested in the place (it worked for me through music and some key films). This would be impossible with the current pap that is offered.

I've never really been a defender of the BBC but you can see the real benefits of it when coming to Japan, but its not just about a compulsory license fee but also management, regulation, broadcasting commitment, and everything. To me, who knows nothing about the media, the whole system in Japan looks screwed. Ultra conservative management in NHK; over reliance on sponsorship even for news (which I find extremely shocking).

The decline of TV that you highlighted in your earlier posts ripples through society and more widely.

[Ganma]

On topic:
[SIZE="4"]Japan's bored auds turn off TVs[/SIZE]
[SIZE="3"]Daily TV viewing shrinks to 3 1/2 hours
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Tokyo-- The Japanese, once one of the most TV-addicted people on the planet, are drifting away from the tube -- forcing networks to scramble for other sources of revenue, from pic production, satellite services, Internet streaming sites and other new technologies.
Daily TV viewing time, which averaged more than five hours in the 1970s, shrank to 3 hours and 28 minutes by 2010, according to figures compiled by the NHK Broadcasting Culture Research Institute.

Males aged 10 to 20 are watching less than two hours a day.

Meanwhile, program ratings have been trending downward for terrestrial networks, pubcaster NHK and commercial rivals TV Asahi, NTV, TBS, Fuji TV and TV Tokyo, despite spikes for major sport events and other special programming.
In June not one show on commercial TV in the 7 p.m. to 10 p.m. "Golden Time" slot won a rating of 10 or above -- once considered the minimum for survival.

Even long-running shows that once seemed immortal have either been axed or are on the brink. One that recently got the heave-ho after 43 seasons is period drama "Mito komon," which bowed in 1969. At its peak, the show's ratings reached as high as 43.7, but recently it has struggled to achieve double digits. Its last episode will air in December on MBS, an affiliate of TBS.

[Typhoon]

[quote="Dreamy_Peach"]Interesting posts.

However, on any given random night say at 7 or 8pm, it's highly possible that I would find at least something to watch on the TV at home in the UK or elsewhere.

In Japan that is unfortunately impossible.

I think its a very negative thing, both for Japanese and for foreigners interested in Japan, or for Japan developing a voice in the world. METI talk of cultural exports and 'cool Japan' and TV broadcasting and quality films would do a lot to strengthen the image of Japan overseas and make people more interested in the place (it worked for me through music and some key films). This would be impossible with the current pap that is offered.

I've never really been a defender of the BBC but you can see the real benefits of it when coming to Japan, but its not just about a compulsory license fee but also management, regulation, broadcasting commitment, and everything. To me, who knows nothing about the media, the whole system in Japan looks screwed. Ultra conservative management in NHK]

It's interesting to compare and contrast the Japanese and Korean approach to cultural exports.

The Koreans have allowed their films and dramas to be subtitled and shown online under license (or not). Both have become quite popular. Same for music.
The result is that Korean culture is enjoying something of a boom in Asia and even elsewhere.

The Japanese appear to spend their time and energy trying to hunt down alleged copyright violators and having their films, dramas, and music pulled from popular sites.
The impression is that they also are very reluctant (or too demanding in terms of royalties) to license their media content for overseas viewing.
Very short sighted in my view.

[IparryU]

It's interesting to compare and contrast the Japanese and Korean approach to cultural exports.

The Koreans have allowed their films and dramas to be subtitled and shown online under license (or not). Both have become quite popular. Same for music.
The result is that Korean culture is enjoying something of a boom in Asia and even elsewhere.

The Japanese appear to spend their time and energy trying to hunt down alleged copyright violators and having their films, dramas, and music pulled from popular sites.
The impression is that they also are very reluctant (or too demanding in terms of royalties) to license their media content for overseas viewing.
Very short sighted in my view.

korea taking over the elctronic market... check
korea taking over the automobile market... check
korea taking over the medical market... check
korea taking over the multimedia market... check
korea taking over the islands that japan took from them... not yet
korean girls looking more hot that japanese girls... they all look the same
korean boys looking more gay and femine than japanese guys... check, but koreans in general are more tuff and can fight when needed
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korea winning the popularity contest... priceless