Steven Seagal? Who's that?

[Russell]

I don't know about this. America is under siege right now, all of these Russia investigations are out for justice and we have a president who thinks he is above the law. And now Putin is sending an actor to the belly of the beast? As he took Russian citizenship I'm not sure he is the patriot we need to uphold American interests.

I am not a fan of Trump, but I am not convinced there is much to the story that Russia influenced the US elections. All this talk that Russia hacked the DNC server before the 2016 election is complete bullshit, since it has been shown that the speed at which the hacked data was downloaded from this server was too fast to having been down remotely. In other words, it was copied on a thumb drive. Yes, that means it was an inside job in the DNC.

If they really want to nail Trump, they should look at his finances. Plenty of connections there with Russia too, including criminal connections. That's the reason why Trump is a
puppet of Putin, and looking into that is the way to get this asshole down.

[jingai]

I'm sorry, please restate that using movie titles please.

[wagyl]

I'm sorry, please restate that using movie titles please.

Asshole Down was a fantastic Seagal movie.

[Taro Toporific]

I'm sorry, please restate that using movie titles please.

[TennoChinko]

Steven Seagal under investigation for new sexual assault case
Maeve McDermott, USA TODAY Published 8:35 a.m. ET Aug. 10, 2018
https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/peo ... 954800002/

...
Steven Seagal is being investigated by the Los Angeles County District Attorney’s office regarding a new sexual assault case, its second inquiry involving the 66-year-old actor, their spokesman Greg Risling confirmed to USA TODAY.

In January, the district attorney's office announced that they were looking into two initial reports of sexual assault involving Seagal: one from actress Regina Simons saying she was 18 and an extra on Seagal’s 1994 film "On Deadly Ground" when he allegedly raped her; another complaint came from former model Faviola Dadis, who alleged he groped her during an audition in 2002, according to The Wrap...l.

[matsuki]

An alleged rape from 24 years ago seems a tad bit too late to take legal action. If it actually happened, I'm sure the victim suffered and there should be legal repercussions but waiting 24 years to respond isn't a very realistic time frame to handle such a situation in a reasonable manner.

A complaint for alleged groping that happened 16 years ago...that's hard to take seriously. Having been chinko kurabe groped my first week in J-land, I can sympathize with the victim and the unwanted grabbing of one's junk...the initial shock (and pain in my case) prevented me from immediate/appropriate reaction and I can even see how a feeling of regret/shame might linger from that experience....but if you feel the situation warrants a legal complaint, you file that shit as soon as you compose yourself, not 16 years later.

Seeing how a few of the recent headline grabbing allegations have revealed themselves as attempts at revenge/mental cases/money grabs, I'm surprised we haven't yet seen a high profile case where the alleged victim has been criminally prosecuted for filing a false police report or something of that nature. I don't want to discourage legit claims but false claims should be dealt with in a more serious manner seeing how such false claims can really damage someone before they're even investigated. ( I realize civil claims can and usually are what's turned to but I'd like to see some criminal charges pressed for this kind of maliciousness)

[Mike Oxlong]

You're talking Hammurabi's code: One who falsely accuses someone of a crime is to be penalized as if they committed the same crime themselves.

[Russell]

An alleged rape from 24 years ago seems a tad bit too late to take legal action. If it actually happened, I'm sure the victim suffered and there should be legal repercussions but waiting 24 years to respond isn't a very realistic time frame to handle such a situation in a reasonable manner.

A complaint for alleged groping that happened 16 years ago...that's hard to take seriously. Having been chinko kurabe groped my first week in J-land, I can sympathize with the victim and the unwanted grabbing of one's junk...the initial shock (and pain in my case) prevented me from immediate/appropriate reaction and I can even see how a feeling of regret/shame might linger from that experience....but if you feel the situation warrants a legal complaint, you file that shit as soon as you compose yourself, not 16 years later.

Seeing how a few of the recent headline grabbing allegations have revealed themselves as attempts at revenge/mental cases/money grabs, I'm surprised we haven't yet seen a high profile case where the alleged victim has been criminally prosecuted for filing a false police report or something of that nature. I don't want to discourage legit claims but false claims should be dealt with in a more serious manner seeing how such false claims can really damage someone before they're even investigated. ( I realize civil claims can and usually are what's turned to but I'd like to see some criminal charges pressed for this kind of maliciousness)

Matsuki, I completely agree with you, but there are some cases where the victim shared her story at the time with multiple sources, so there may be some level of proof in that, though I wonder whether even that can be legally enforced.

That said, there are some guys who attract a lot of accusations of sexual misbehavior, so I can't help but think that there is something to it.

But yeah, filing accusations decades after the fact is a bit rich, even though I feel sorry for most of the victims (that is, those victims who are likely to be genuine).

[matsuki]

You're talking Hammurabi's code: One who falsely accuses someone of a crime is to be penalized as if they committed the same crime themselves.

Seems reasonable...cry wolf, get fed to the wolves

Matsuki, I completely agree with you, but there are some cases where the victim shared her story at the time with multiple sources, so there may be some level of proof in that, though I wonder whether even that can be legally enforced.

That said, there are some guys who attract a lot of accusations of sexual misbehavior, so I can't help but think that there is something to it.

But yeah, filing accusations decades after the fact is a bit rich, even though I feel sorry for most of the victims (that is, those victims who are likely to be genuine).

I'm not doubting any specific claim's authenticity nor do I want to shame victims or discourage legit claims. Even if the case is past a statute of limitations in one's jurisdiction, I'm all for a victim getting whatever justice they can. I'm just really disgusted by recently seeing a few people be pretty much destroyed by false accusations waaaay after the alleged incident(s) took place because the current trend is that these types of accusations are accepted as situations beyond question and there are scummy/salty people taking advantage of the climate without repercussion. Maybe one can gain back some of what they may lose financially in civil court but we've yet to see one of these high profile false accusers be hit with criminal charges. It's as if the crime of filing a false claim isn't taken seriously.

[Russell]

You're talking Hammurabi's code: One who falsely accuses someone of a crime is to be penalized as if they committed the same crime themselves.

Seems reasonable...cry wolf, get fed to the wolves

Matsuki, I completely agree with you, but there are some cases where the victim shared her story at the time with multiple sources, so there may be some level of proof in that, though I wonder whether even that can be legally enforced.

That said, there are some guys who attract a lot of accusations of sexual misbehavior, so I can't help but think that there is something to it.

But yeah, filing accusations decades after the fact is a bit rich, even though I feel sorry for most of the victims (that is, those victims who are likely to be genuine).

I'm not doubting any specific claim's authenticity nor do I want to shame victims or discourage legit claims. Even if the case is past a statute of limitations in one's jurisdiction, I'm all for a victim getting whatever justice they can. I'm just really disgusted by recently seeing a few people be pretty much destroyed by false accusations waaaay after the alleged incident(s) took place because the current trend is that these types of accusations are accepted as situations beyond question and there are scummy/salty people taking advantage of the climate without repercussion. Maybe one can gain back some of what they may lose financially in civil court but we've yet to see one of these high profile false accusers be hit with criminal charges. It's as if the crime of filing a false claim isn't taken seriously.

Yep, my gut feeling is all for Hammurabi's code, to use Mike's phrasing.

There are however some legal difficulties with it. For example, an accusation may be true but not provable beyond doubt. What to do in this case?

[Russell]

Asia Argento, Who Accused Weinstein, Made a Deal With Her Own Accuser

The Italian actress and director Asia Argento was among the first women in the movie business to publicly accuse the producer Harvey Weinstein of sexual assault. She became a leading figure in the #MeToo movement. Her boyfriend, the culinary television star Anthony Bourdain, eagerly joined the fight.

But in the months that followed her revelations about Mr. Weinstein last October, Ms. Argento quietly arranged to pay $380,000 to her own accuser: Jimmy Bennett, a young actor and rock musician who said she had sexually assaulted him in a California hotel room years earlier, when he was only two months past his 17th birthday. She was 37. The age of consent in California is 18.

That claim and the subsequent arrangement for payments are laid out in documents between lawyers for Ms. Argento and Mr. Bennett, a former child actor who once played her son in a movie.

The documents, which were sent to The New York Times through encrypted email by an unidentified party, include a selfie dated May 9, 2013, of the two lying in bed. As part of the agreement, Mr. Bennett, who is now 22, gave the photograph and its copyright to Ms. Argento, now 42. Three people familiar with the case said the documents were authentic.

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Hmm, what can one say...

[TennoChinko]

...

Seeing how a few of the recent headline grabbing allegations have revealed themselves as attempts at revenge/mental cases/money grabs, I'm surprised we haven't yet seen a high profile case where the alleged victim has been criminally prosecuted for filing a false police report or something of that nature. I don't want to discourage legit claims but false claims should be dealt with in a more serious manner seeing how such false claims can really damage someone before they're even investigated. ( I realize civil claims can and usually are what's turned to but I'd like to see some criminal charges pressed for this kind of maliciousness)

I don't know whether you meant in the US, but the NIKKI YOVINO case is pretty recent:

NIKKI YOVINO
https://everipedia.org/wiki/nikki-yovino/

Nikki Yovino is a psychology and pre-med student at Sacred Heart University in Fairfield, Conn.

False Rape Accusation

In 2017, Yovino was charged with second-degree falsely reporting an incident and tampering with physical evidence when she accused two football players of raping her at a party. The football players admitted they had sex, but said it was with consent. Yovino claimed that the football player pulled her into a bathroom in the basement of the house and held her down, taking turns sexually assaulting her. The football players were expelled and lost their football scholarships. [1]

]Teen charged with lying about being raped by college football players
By Joshua Rhett Miller February 22, 2017 | 1:30pm | Updated
https://nypost.com/2017/02/22/teen-char ... l-players/

Two college football players who were suspended from their team last year and saw their scholarships revoked after rape accusations have been cleared by police after authorities say their accuser recanted her story.

Nikki Yovino, 18, of South Setauket, NY, has been charged with second-degree falsely reporting an incident and tampering with or fabricating physical evidence in connection to an incident at a Sacred Heart University football party in October, the Connecticut Post reports.

When pressed about inconsistencies in her original statement, Yovino admitted that she made up the rape allegations against the two football players in hopes of gaining sympathy from another man — a prospective boyfriend, according to an arrest warrant affidavit.

Police said Yovino told them on Oct. 15 at a hospital where they responded for a sexual assault complaint that she attended a Sacred Heart football club party the night before at a house on Lakeside Drive in Bridgeport.

Investigators said Yovino claimed two men pulled her into a bathroom in the basement of the house and held her down, taking turns sexually assaulting her, the Connecticut Post reports.

“I don’t want to be in here, I don’t want to do anything,” police said she claimed she told the men. “My friends are waiting for me outside, let me go outside.”

Both men admitted having sex with Yovino, but claimed it was consensual. Bridgeport Police Detective Walberto Cotto Jr. later questioned Yovino after other students said it appeared Yovino went into the bathroom willingly with the two men.

One student, according to the arrest warrant affidavit, said he overheard Yovino telling the men she wanted to have sex with them.

“She admitted that she made up the allegation of sexual assault against (the football players) because it was the first thing that came to mind and she didn’t want to lose (another male student) as a friend and potential boyfriend. She stated that she believed when (the other male student) heard the allegation it would make him angry and sympathetic to her,” according to the affidavit.

Mark Sherman, Yovino’s attorney, said he had not yet been provided with police reports and video footage pertaining to the case, but told The Post he expects Yovino to plead not guilty at her arraignment on March 3.

“The details of what happened here will come out at the appropriate time during the court process,” Sherman wrote in an email.

Yovino, who was released after posting $5,000 bond, faces up to five years in prison if convicted on the tampering charge, a felony, the Connecticut Post reports.

One of the students has since been readmitted to the university, but he’s no longer a member of the football team and lost his scholarship. The names of the students are being withheld by Hearst Connecticut Media and one of their attorneys told the Connecticut Post that he just wants to put the incident behind him.

Sacred Heart officials declined to provide information about specific students, including the identities of the two former football players and whether they had been reinstated by the university, citing federal privacy laws in a statement to The Post.

“Sacred Heart never expelled the two students nor was any student stripped of scholarships because of any allegations,” university spokesperson Kimberly Primicerio wrote in an email. “Whenever there is any kind of incident at Sacred Heart University, we go to great lengths to ensure due process for all parties involved. The way that this particular case is playing out certainly demonstrates the validity of our procedures.”

Another university spokesperson, Deborah Noack, declined to indicate whether Yovino was a current or former student at the university. Her Facebook page identifies her as a psychology and pre-med student at Sacred Heart University and Suffolk County Community College.

And, you're correct about the statute of limitations. The same principle applied to the Bill COSBY case except for the case that the prosecutor initially decided lacked enough merit to prosecute which was the 2005 Andrea CONSTAND case. Once they successfully got the details of the case unsealed, they not only had a potential case that could still be tried but statements given by COSBY under oath...

That and probably the taped show of relatively unkmown comedian Hannibal BURRESS going on about COSBY being a rapist setting the case back into motion did it for Bill...

Thirteen? And it’s even worse because Bill Cosby has the fucking smuggest old black man public persona that I hate. Pull your pants up, black people. I was on TV in the ’80s. I can talk down to you because I had a successful sitcom. Yeah, but you raped women, Bill Cosby. So, brings you down a couple notches. I don’t curse on stage. Well, yeah, you’re a rapist, so, I’ll take you sayin’ lots of motherfuckers on Bill Cosby: Himself if you weren’t a rapist. …I want to just at least make it weird for you to watch Cosby Show reruns. …I’ve done this bit on stage, and people don’t believe. People think I’m making it up. …That shit is upsetting. If you didn’t know about it, trust me. You leave here and Google ‘Bill Cosby rape.’ It’s not funny. That shit has more results than Hannibal Buress.

[matsuki]

an accusation may be true but not provable beyond doubt. What to do in this case?

Sucks to say but you're kinda SOL in these cases UNLESS you can do something like record them admitting to the crime. What we can learn from cases like that the best case scenario is avoiding situations where that kind of potential exists. One dumb girl I met recounted to me a tale about how she was "raped" by this scummy dude who got her back to his place in the middle of the day/date by faking a work call and claiming he needed to go home to fax some documents. The dumb girl went back to his place with him where he basically pressured her in to sex. Hard to say if it's really rape if she gave in to the pressure and consented but the point is she put herself in a really bad situation. Doesn't mean she deserved to be raped but it puts herself at risk for it.

lots of awesomeness

I hadn't heard about those but it's awesome there are criminal charges being filed. Dumb slutty girl throwing two guys under the bus in attempt to hide what a slut she is to another guy....

[TennoChinko]

...
I hadn't heard about those but it's awesome there are criminal charges being filed. Dumb slutty girl throwing two guys under the bus in attempt to hide what a slut she is to another guy....

It sounds like the lives of the two college football players were pretty much screwed. Their acccuser was a white woman and these were two black guys on athletic scholarship. So, even if the college is trying to claim otherwise, likely without benefit of legal counsel, they were told after the accusation was filed that their scholarships were beinng rescinded and 'strongly encouraged' to withdraw. One has apparently returned to SHU...

Who knows? Maybe their current lawyer Frank Riccio II will manage to get an awesome settlement from the college. Can't seeing them getting anything out of their former accuser.

[matsuki]

...
I hadn't heard about those but it's awesome there are criminal charges being filed. Dumb slutty girl throwing two guys under the bus in attempt to hide what a slut she is to another guy....

It sounds like the lives of the two college football players were pretty much screwed. Their acccuser was a white woman and these were two black guys on athletic scholarship. So, even if the college is trying to claim otherwise, likely without benefit of legal counsel, they were told after the accusation was filed that their scholarships were beinng rescinded and 'strongly encouraged' to withdraw. One has apparently returned to SHU...

Who knows? Maybe their current lawyer Frank Riccio II will manage to get an awesome settlement from the college. Can't seeing them getting anything out of their former accuser.

One can hope...like with wrongful termination, it's getting ridiculous to see entities knee-jerk disassociation with the accused as some sort of face-saving measure.

[Mike Oxlong]

L.A. District Attorney Declines Sex Crime Cases Against Kevin Spacey, Anthony Anderson and Steven Seagal

[matsuki]

15-16 years after an incident...even if those scumbags committed the crime, is beyond reason. That being said, if they're as scummy as they are being portrayed, there are likely other victims with cases that are fit for litigation.

Cosby is quickly being labelled as the most prolific serial rapist in US history and seems like he's been destroyed but even within that there is quite a bit of bullshit coming out of the highlighted accuser. Of course if half of what is coming out is true, he deserves whatever comes of it all, I'm just disgusted by how this one woman took his money over a decade ago to keep quiet and not file a criminal complaint is getting the attention of a "hero." If she rejected his pay off and went at him with criminal charges, hero posters all the way. She could have filed/won a civil case if he was convicted. I don't fault her for taking a pay off but to go after him after taking it comes across as way disingenuous. (Fuck, for 3.4 million, I'd take the ol Cosby puddin' pop) She was then caught lying and it came out she talked about wanting to "entrap a celebrity" to get paid. By all means prosecute the man but her complaint seems like the worst one to base all this shit off of or get all grrlpwr over.

[jingai]

I don't see why there is any statute of limitations on sexual crimes. The Catholic Church should be held to account, along with these powerful abusers.

[matsuki]

I don't see why there is any statute of limitations on sexual crimes. The Catholic Church should be held to account, along with these powerful abusers.

When the crime involves a minor, that's more than just a sexual crime...and minors shouldn't be held to the same reporting standards as adults. Covering up such crimes is unforgivable...

[jingai]

It's not just kids, it's about abuse of power in the case of the Catholic Church as well. That power also compels silence. I think sexual crimes are "enough" and don't need to be anything more to be considered heinous whenever they were committed.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-catho ... -women-too

[matsuki]

Agreed but the statute of limitations isn't about giving an asshole who committed a crime a "free pass" as much as it is about focusing on the necessity of dealing with a claim in as reasonable period of time while evidence can be best interpreted. It also aims to prevent abuse/harassment as false claims can be just as difficult to disprove as legitimate ones can be to prove after a certain period of time.

[Taro Toporific]

Muneo Suzuki, head of the Hokkaido-based New Party Daichi, must be learning to love the Russian Bear.

Seagal-vs-Suzuki.jpg

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[SovietSupreme]

Muneo Suzuki, head of the Hokkaido-based New Party Daichi, must be learning to love the Russian Bear.

Seagal-vs-Suzuki.jpg

love-the-bear.jpg

That little sleazy weasel Suzuki, thinks he can tell the true leader of the world's people, Comrade Leader Putin, what to do.

youtu.be/dHugXLEp8KQ

Suzuki-tells-Putin-what-to-do.jpg

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[matsuki]

Great Leader Putin is unstoppable...

Look at those moves! He strikes such fear in the eyes of the opposing team they dare not move! Oh shit...someone censor that last bit

[jingai]

It sounds like Suzuki is on Great Leader Putin's team, no?

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

Saw Muneo's truck near the Russian Embassy earlier this week (no sign of Steven Seagal, though).

[SovietSupreme]

Saw Muneo's truck near the Russian Embassy earlier this week (no sign of Steven Seagal, though).

Double-agent Muneo Suzuki was picking up last minute campaign funds at the Russian Embassy, obviously.

In his victory speech, Suzuki Muneo pledged that he'd work towards resolving the territorial dispute with Russia. Today's election marks an amazing comeback for a man who was convicted of bribery and banned from running for office for most of the 2010s.
Via @mrjeffu

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Suzuki Muneo won tonight. He's back in the Diet, after nearly a decade- I guess that Steven Seagal endorsement helped folks forget about his time in prison?
--Via @mrjeffu

Suzuki's blog says that Seagal came especially from Moscow to show his support.
---blog.goo.ne.jp/kentanakachan

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[matsuki]

Just what this country needs, another 71yo jiji politician out of touch with 2019, and a history of corruption.

[pragmatic]

Just what this country needs, another 71yo jiji politician out of touch with 2019, and a history of corruption.

I think you hit it on the head there. I think that is a fundamental problem in this country. The politicians are far too old here and out of touch with the reality of living here. As of 2017 the average age of a politician in the Diet is 55 years old. There are young politicians out there. However, they are few and far between. Here is an interesting article on the gaijin pot blog about this topic.

[url]
https://blog.gaijinpot.com/reforming-ag ... ans-watch/
[/url]

[Thanatos' embalmed botfly]

https://blog.gaijinpot.com/reforming-aging-japan-3-young-politicians-watch/

oh shit that reminds me. this starts today: https://spraguedawley.com/japanese-parl ... kicks-off/