2020 Japan Olympics

[Coligny]

Japanese olympics hapenning in a stadium named after a French company... would be weird no ?

[Russell]

Japanese olympics hapenning in a stadium named after a French company... would be weird no ?

I must be missing something.

Nissan Motor Company Ltd [...] is a Japanese multinational automobile manufacturer headquartered in Nishi-ku, Yokohama, Japan.

Since 1999, Nissan has been part of the Renault–Nissan Alliance, a partnership between Nissan and French automaker Renault. As of 2013, Renault holds a 43.4% voting stake in Nissan, while Nissan holds a 15% non-voting stake in Renault. Carlos Ghosn serves as CEO of both companies.

[Taro Toporific]

‘Lube Olympics’ makes slippery bid to rival Tokyo 2020

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[kurogane]

Yeah, they could have gone for a local design by someone who has experience in that area.

ROFL

And the funny thing is, they already have a big stadium with a seat capacity of 72,000 spectators. That's 90% of the required number. Why not use that and pull a cheapy?!?

Personally, I quite like your logic, but I fear that you and the Decision Makers might disagree. For one, it's in Yokohama not Tokyo. And two, that would not be a dedicated stadium built with dedication as a dedication to the Olympics to which the said stadium would be built in dedicated dedication. I also fear that you might just be an apostate, and are opposed to the construction of yet more shit nobody needs anyways simply because we already have enough of the same. I believe that attitude has been recntly outlawed in one of Honest Abe's recent Orwellian Games events at the latest Diet session.

As an oldie but goodie popular reference and insight to the mind of Committee Man!, I supply today's comic relief:
http://www.free-tv-video-online.info/vi ... 8175192362

MASH, season 2 Episode 12 The Incubator My favourite part starts at 15:50-ish.

OTOH, surely a Mangina Stadium could only be properly represented by a Frenchman?

[Salty]

Are there actually any good reasons any national Olympic committee would use foreign contractors? Part of an Olympic bid is supposed to be local economic development, after all. Or is this just more of the usual "Why doesn't Japan do what I tell it to"?

BTW< I got a good laugh at the idea of using Indian contractors: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concerns_ ... alth_Games I like the RCMP's Sikh uniform turban and a nice curry but those idjits couldn't organise a shit in a toilet. Of which they have a shortage.

BTW, that Catarrh stadium looks like a Klingon vagina. That architect must have a sugar uncle somewhere. She's terribly untalented.

Sure....

cheaper; doesn`t increase the national debt as much; doesn`t buy as many votes for the LDP (Least Democratic Party); plus of course it would be cheaper... With everything costing 100% more than in other developed countries.... a no brainer.

Hire rokunashiko to come up with a unique design....

[Coligny]

Japanese olympics hapenning in a stadium named after a French company... would be weird no ?

I must be missing something.

Nissan Motor Company Ltd [...] is a Japanese multinational automobile manufacturer headquartered in Nishi-ku, Yokohama, Japan.

Since 1999, Nissan has been part of the Renault–Nissan Alliance, a partnership between Nissan and French automaker Renault. As of 2013, Renault holds a 43.4% voting stake in Nissan, while Nissan holds a 15% non-voting stake in Renault. Carlos Ghosn serves as CEO of both companies.

Don't bugger me with facts, Nissan is French because I say so, end of story.

[kurogane]

Are there actually any good reasons any national Olympic committee would use foreign contractors?
Sure....

Yeah, I kinda walked into that one

Still, I think most Olympics are strictly domestic boondoggles anywhere you go (ours were), though they do seem to be f'in this one up even more than usual. Unbelievable they pulled down that perfectly nice stadium they had only to replace it with nothing

[Russell]

Are there actually any good reasons any national Olympic committee would use foreign contractors?
Sure....

Yeah, I kinda walked into that one

Still, I think most Olympics are strictly domestic boondoggles anywhere you go (ours were), though they do seem to be f'in this one up even more than usual. Unbelievable they pulled down that perfectly nice stadium they had only to replace it with nothing

They could make a nice park there with a statue of Abe in the center to honor him for his efforts to create this park...

[Wage Slave]

Or they could go the London route. Build a bit of a cheapie of a stadium and concentrate your efforts on what happens inside it, especially the opening ceremony. I see the London stadium only had a partial temporary roof - enough to shield the spectators and a bit more to make sure that any records set were still valid because there was sufficient wind shielding. They also built an iconic sculpture with help from the vanity of an industrialist. Opinions on the sculpture vary but the opening ceremony had impact.

There isn't any doubt that Japan has the historical, artistic and cultural capital to put on a really impressive memorable show which will make the stadium itself fairly irrelevant - at least for the purpose of the Games.

What is more doubtful is if the job will be given to some truly talented people, and they given the freedom to implement something that has real impact. It happened in London but one doubts whether the same will happen here. Far more likely that control will remain in the hands of bureaucrats and the usual committee worthies who will produce a diligent and worthy show but not anything with real impact especially given their generous budget.

[kurogane]

Much as I loathe ceremonies, pomp and bumfluffery, especially of the nauseating Olympic variety...........that is a really good idea. The idea that the stadium is anything but a vessel for pork, preening and occasional preeminence is probably dated even amongst the paleolithics in charge. What freaks me out is how wedded they seem to the whole Bubble Era Face thing. It's like they have been frozen in 1985. The only thing I enjoyed of the London ceremonies was when Mayor Flobadob flounced his way onto the stage. If Britain still has one great natural export it must be upper class twits.

[legion]

And the funny thing is, they already have a big stadium with a seat capacity of 72,000 spectators. That's 90% of the required number. Why not use that and pull a cheapy?!?

I would be much happier to see the Olympics & World Cup make a point of using existing facilities, we really don't need to pour more concrete.

Building big buildings is getting a bit old now.

[legion]

Or they could go the London route. Build a bit of a cheapie of a stadium and concentrate your efforts on what happens inside it, especially the opening ceremony.

Just so long as they don't wheel out Paul McCartney

[kurogane]

I would be much happier to see the Olympics & World Cup make a point of using existing facilities, we really don't need to pour more concrete.

Verily and forsooth doth thou speak of mighty truths!!!!!!!!!!!! This race from newly constructed venue to newly constructed venue makes me very angry.

[Wage Slave]

Not that I know much about it but being awarded the games was on a competitive basis. They had to persuade the IOC that Tokyo offered a better package to host the games than the other candidate cities. In and among other competitive, ahem, processes of course.

So, is it acceptable to start redesigning or even cancelling promised facilities? I suppose a certain amount of alteration and modification is fine but not building a stadium in the promised location won't be. Building something completely different is already pushing it. So, I reckon they have to build something good and where they said they would, and it's time to don their skates.

[Russell]

Not that I know much about it but being awarded the games was on a competitive basis. They had to persuade the IOC that Tokyo offered a better package to host the games than the other candidate cities. In and among other competitive, ahem, processes of course.

So, is it acceptable to start redesigning or even cancelling promised facilities? I suppose a certain amount of alteration and modification is fine but not building a stadium in the promised location won't be. Building something completely different is already pushing it. So, I reckon they have to build something good and where they said they would, and it's time to don their skates.

Basically true, but the Olympic committee doesn't have much choice, do they? Especially since they received those nice bribes in the selection process...

[matsuki]

"It is very regrettable that We Japanese must cancel the 2020 Olympics due to [insert natural or unnatural disaster here]"

[Coligny]

Barack Saddam Hussein Obomba will have to fire up the typhoonadoquakenamy masheen again...

Once he's done annexing Texas...

[Russell]

International Stadium Yokohama should be primary venue for a 2020 ‘Japan’ Olympics

Friday’s announcement by Prime Minister Shinzo Abe that the original plans for Tokyo’s new Olympic Stadium would be scrapped over the rising price tag was another new low for Japan with the international sporting community.

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It would seem to me that if cost is such a great concern for the Olympic Stadium the best idea would be to scrap the project altogether.

How about making the land where the stadium that hosted the 1964 Tokyo Games stood a park where families could go and children could play?

A big open space with trees and grass in central Tokyo. It could even be called “Olympic Park.”

You read it first here folks:

They could make a nice park there with a statue of Abe in the center to honor him for his efforts to create this park...

He continues:

Of course this would then present a problem for the 2020 Games as the primary venue would either have to be built somewhere else or an existing facility utilized.

The solution is a simple one.

Have International Stadium Yokohama and its 72,000-plus seats be the site for the main Olympic attractions. It was good enough for the World Cup final back in 2002.

You read it first here folks:

And the funny thing is, they already have a big stadium with a seat capacity of 72,000 spectators. That's 90% of the required number. Why not use that and pull a cheapy?!?

Unbelievable.

Can't this guy just cite his sources?!?

Yeah, I know, I know, FG is not "distinguished" enough...

[Mike Oxlong]

Who needs Paul the Psychic Octopus anyways!

[Yokohammer]

Who needs Paul the Psychic Octopus anyways!

Ooh! A nice Jack Russell Terrier!

Working hard to figure out the implication here ...

[Mike Oxlong]

Jack cribbed Russell's notes...et voilà!

[Yokohammer]

Jack cribbed Russell's notes...et voilà!

We are in the presence of genius.

[Taro Toporific]

Stadium: Costs irrecoverable, lawsuit possible
NHK News | Jul. 22, 2015
Japanese officials say nearly 50 million dollars of funds are unlikely to be recovered following the government's decision to review construction plans for a new national stadium in Tokyo...
...The council says more than 29 million dollars goes to the design firm and about 12 million dollars to Iraqi-British architect Zaha Hadid who supervised the design.
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[Salty]

As it should be - paid for work performed.....

[Yokohammer]

As it should be - paid for work performed.....

Or "pay the piper," as they say.

I sure hope they don't kick up a fuss about this. I note that Mori is already trying to squirm his way out of shouldering any responsibility:

Mori denies role in failed stadium bid

Facing reporters at the Japan National Press Club, Former Prime Minister Yoshiro Mori, head of the 2020 Tokyo Olympic Games’ organizing committee, had much to say during a Wednesday news conference.

For approximately 90 minutes, Mori continually referenced the soaring construction costs of the Olympic facilities, while at the same time denying he was responsible for the now-rejected National Stadium project.

“Let me say this first. I have been really annoyed by this issue,” Mori said.

The former leader was initially believed to have pushed for the original costly design. But during the news conference, Mori emphasized that his committee ultimately has no say in the stadium’s design.

“I have nothing to do with (the design issue). Whatever (stadium) might be built, my committee would not have anything to do with it,” Mori said.

Slimy motherfucker (and the rest of 'em).

[kurogane]

Mori..................Mori................OH SHITTTTTTTTTTttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt. THAT GUY!!!????????????

OOOOKKKKKKkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

Anyways, yes, she has to be paid, just like we used to have to pay to use the dumper in gas station toilets. Or something like that. 12 million seems outrageous for that POS that ended up being dumped, but her only fault is her world class lack of talent, and there should have been riders in the contract that reduced any payments in the event of cancellation and such. This is such a mind numbing classic Filthy Old Men FU it's almost entertaining. I would actually be quite surprised if it was corruption at an individual level, but I do wonder if the underlying motivation for too many of them isn't to leave one last Big Legacy before they take the big jump? The whole process so far just reeks of a bunch of professional committee men who haven't had a mental update since the day Japan overtook the UK as the world's second biggest economy.

[matsuki]

The whole process so far just reeks of a bunch of professional committee men who haven't had a mental update since the day Japan overtook the UK as the world's second biggest economy.

THIS

[Taro Toporific]

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It's official, w0oT!!

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[Coligny]

I hope it costeded a plenty milliunz to dezign...

At least...

[Taro Toporific]

Organizers reveal emblem for 2020 Tokyo Olympics
The Japan Times | July 25, 2015
Japanese organizers revealed the emblem of the 2020 Tokyo Olympics on Friday, five years to the day before the opening ceremony.
The emblem is based on "T", standing for Tokyo, Tomorrow, and Turd.
It was designed by Japanese artist Kenjiro Sano.
The ceremony was held at the Tokyo Metropolitan Government office in the Shinjuku district and was attended by Tokyo 2020 Games Organizing Committee President Yoshiro Mori, Tokyo Gov. Yoichi Masuzoe and IOC Vice President John Coates.
“(The) emblem reflects the vibrant nature of the city and the welcoming spirit of its citizens,” Coates said.
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