NFL Coverage In Japan

[canman]

What I find so interesting is that it is very possible that to get to the Superbowl you would have to play in Chicago or Green Bay where it is cold and snowy or icy in the NFC championship game. So what is the difference. In that case you have the best two teams from the NFC playing to see who gets to go to the big dance. In many years the two best teams from the NFC were the two best teams in football. So I can't understand the thinking that only the Superbowl must be played in a fair warm climate.
I like the tact taken by the CFL, about ten years ago they decided to take the games out of Vancouver's BC Dome the Skydome and put them into places like Winnipeg and Regina. The fan response was great. It gave many people an opportunity to see the game, and it was fair for both teams. As Gboothe said, they both have the same condtions.

[kamome]

The problem with the argument that "both teams have the same conditions" is that some teams are less acclimated to bad weather than others. I agree that it didn't affect the teams this year - the Colts are a dome team and the Bears are not - but in many cases, bad weather will favor one team or another because of the conditions they normally play in during the season.

Yes, teams have to go through bad conditions sometimes in the playoffs. But that is how a team gets rewarded with home field advantage. Canman, taking your Green Bay example, if they are good enough to be at home against a visitor in the playoffs (because of their superior record during the season) they are rewarded with that advantage during a playoff game.

However, I don't believe any team should be given a home field advantage during the Super Bowl.

For example, the Dolphins are a warm weather team and Green Bay is a cold weather team. Say they both make the Super Bowl and it is played outdoors in wintry conditions. Odds are that Green Bay would have a distinct advantage. And I say that is an unfair advantage. Take it away and make it all about the talent on the field. You're trying to determine who is the best, right? Why distort the argument by giving a team the equivalent of home field advantage?

[AssKissinger]

k,

I think you're being kind of anal about it. There's millions of angles that can help one team or the other and no way to make it completely fair. Rain and snow are fun to watch. Play the Super Bowl in Green Bay for all I care. Losers can whine about conditions all they want, I don't give a shit, pass another beer.

[kamome]

k,

I think you're being kind of anal about it. There's millions of angles that can help one team or the other and no way to make it completely fair. Rain and snow are fun to watch. Play the Super Bowl in Green Bay for all I care. Losers can whine about conditions all they want, I don't give a shit, pass another beer.

So if you can't completely eliminate all angles, why bother at all? That doesn't make sense. Weather can be a huge factor so why not take it away? I think you'd feel differently if you were a fan of a team that made it to the SB. A Miami or Carolina fan would be pissed if their team had to play the SB against Green Bay in the snow. It's as much a matter of fairness to the teams' fan base as anything else.

[Captain Japan]

So if you can't completely eliminate all angles, why bother at all?

I think you are missing the point. Everyone knows the rules beforehand. It is not as if this is coming down to chance. There are no angles to eliminate. The game is played on the field - that's it. The weather impacts both teams. The issue about such-and-such-team-coming-from-a-warm-city-to-play-in-a-cold-one is whiny, six-year-old bullshit. As to the dome issue, I think the game should be played outdoors. As MLB has realized, games on grass are much more appealing to fans. The NFL, however, seems to be too caught up in projecting a hopeless MTV-type image to really care.

[kamome]

The issue about such-and-such-team-coming-from-a-warm-city-to-play-in-a-cold-one is whiny, six-year-old bullshit.

That's pretty harsh, Cap'n. Why is it whiny bullshit? The point is that weather injects an unnecessary element of unpredictability and possibly can give one team an unfair advantage. I think it's a legitimate concern. And so does the NFL, apparently, which is why they always put the SB in a temperate climate (Miami, San Diego, NO, Jacksonville, etc.) or in a dome. It's the fairest approach to all teams and the fans of those teams. What's wrong with that? You'd prefer the alternative - stick the SB in an ice storm? Makes no sense to me.

[AssKissinger]

Miami, San Diego, NO, Jacksonville

Doesn't sound so fair for all the teams up North.

[kamome]

Doesn't sound so fair for all the teams up North.

How so? They're not at any disadvantage by playing where the weather is good.

[AssKissinger]

How so? They're not at any disadvantage by playing where the weather is good.

If they're used to playing in bad weather then sure they are.

This is kind of more true for the college bowls since college fans actually travel but I mean being from the south and playing in the south is like home field, isn't it?

USC in the Rose Bowl, Florida in the Orange Bowl, Hell the Bucs in the Superdome.

[Mulboyne]

Why should any conditions be deemed a disadvantage for leading professional sportsmen? With the resources at hand, teams should be able to get all the preparation they need. It can't come as a shock to anyone that the temperature isn't always stable.

[Captain Japan]

That's pretty harsh, Cap'n. Why is it whiny bullshit? .

Simple: because an agreement would never be reached. For example, you suggested the dome as an equalizer of talent. But what about all the teams that play their home games on grass? Sure, you could argue that the weather would play a larger factor than the surface of the field but I could probably find an expert to say otherwise. It would never end. My solution: just play the game. These players are paid a lot of money to be the best in all conditions. Besides, the location of the Super Bowl is known years in advance. If teams are so uptight about the playing conditions they have plenty of time to adjust their roster and plan accordingly. My guess though is that they have other more important things to worry about.

As well, since places like Green Bay and Buffalo don't have the hooker/coke/MTV factor that the NFL desires they will not be hosting a Super Bowl anytime soon. Detroit, which I think is a pretty interesting place, got it last year, but I think locations without an established over-the-top party scene will be hard-pressed to get the game in the near future.

[kamome]

Simple: because an agreement would never be reached. For example, you suggested the dome as an equalizer of talent. But what about all the teams that play their home games on grass? Sure, you could argue that the weather would play a larger factor than the surface of the field but I could probably find an expert to say otherwise. It would never end. My solution: just play the game.

One question - if you had the authority, would you ever put the game in the frozen tundra of Green Bay or Buffalo? I wouldn't.

[kamome]

Why should any conditions be deemed a disadvantage for leading professional sportsmen?

If that were the case, there would be no such thing as home field advantage.

[GuyJean]

Personally, I think the SB being in an unrelated city is bullshit. It's probably all for marketing anyway; the halftime show and formal parties wouldn't be much fun at 20 below. I think the warm weather is for the corporate donors, television crews, and elite fans.. not the players.

The SB should be played at one of the team's home fields; the one with the best overall record, or alternating AFC to NFC every year.. The playoff games totally outshine the superbowl because one team is playing at home.

GJ

[Charles]

Super Bowl update: the game was over a week ago.

[kamome]

[quote="GuyJean"]Personally, I think the SB being in an unrelated city is bullshit. It's probably all for marketing anyway]

I agree there obviously is the corporate/marketing aspect, but the players get in on the fun, too. The players would rather be in a hot city like Miami or NO.

But I wouldn't want the SB in one of the team's home stadiums. Very unfair, especially to the fans and players of the "visiting" team.

[kamome]

Super Bowl update: the game was over a week ago.

World War II was over decades ago. That doesn't mean it's off limits as a topic.

[Greji]

World War II was over decades ago.

Who said it was over Bird? From what I've read on this board, it's still being fought!


As far as weather for the game, the biggesrt bitchers are the fans! If you have ever played winter sports to include football in the North, you will know that as soon as the opening whistle blows, you seldom have time to think about the weather and in most cases, don't even notice it. Only the wet or cold fans are going to gripe and then not all of them!

[IkemenTommy]

I don't have the full details but the Lingerie football season is supposed to start next year.



Hopefully, it will last longer than that XFL crap. We'll see but I highly doubt that they'll reach a contract with Skyperfect TV to show here. Oh well.

Gotta love the US of A!

[kamome]

I don't have the full details but the Lingerie football season is supposed to start next year.



Hopefully, it will last longer than that XFL crap. We'll see but I highly doubt that they'll reach a contract with Skyperfect TV to show here. Oh well.

Gotta love the US of A!

Now THAT'S what I call "fantasy" football!!!:love2:

[IkemenTommy]

Yes!!! The Detroit Lions are 0-16! The worst record in NFL history.

[IkemenTommy]

Pittsburgh vs. Phoenix for the Super Bowl this year. It's going to be an exciting game once again.

I am definitely going out somewhere to watch it but where do you guys recommend in Tokyo? Sanno Hotel? American Club? Or some other venue?

[American Oyaji]

Pittsburgh vs. Phoenix for the Super Bowl this year. It's going to be an exciting game once again.

I am definitely going out somewhere to watch it but where do you guys recommend in Tokyo? Sanno Hotel? American Club? Or some other venue?

PGH is gonna eat those birds worse than the Ravens got et.

[Gilligan]

PGH is gonna eat those birds worse than the Ravens got et.

I have never been a big Steelers fan, but I think you're absolutely right here AO.

[Bucky]

I am definitely going out somewhere to watch it but where do you guys recommend in Tokyo? Sanno Hotel? American Club? Or some other venue?

Will you be watching it live? What places will be open at 6:00 am JST on Monday to host Super Bowl viewings?

[IkemenTommy]

This is what I've found so far:
Tokyo American Club
New Sanno Hotel

Maybe you guys can suggest others.

[halfnip]

This is what I've found so far:
Tokyo American Club
New Sanno Hotel

Maybe you guys can suggest others.

Don't you need to be a DoD employee/dependent or have military orders to be able to get in to the Sanno?

I'd recommend Tokyo Sports Cafe in Roppongi as they do the all you can eat and drink breakfast event...

[Greji]

Don't you need to be a DoD employee/dependent or have military orders to be able to get in to the Sanno?

I'd recommend Tokyo Sports Cafe in Roppongi as they do the all you can eat and drink breakfast event...

Or retired military... hehehe

[Behan]

Iso's incredible journey takes her back to Super Bowl

By KAZ NAGATSUKA
Staff writer
TAMPA, Fla. — The NFL powerhouse Pittsburgh Steelers have been there and done that.

So has Ariko Iso.

The 38-year-old Tokyo native, who works for the five-time NFL champions as an athletic trainer, is in the midst of her second Super Bowl experience in her seventh season with the team.

http://search.japantimes.co.jp/mail/sf20090131a1.html

[kusai Jijii]

Fuck NFL. For toughness, its on a par with gateball.

what you boyz want is this:

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=UkGLFwuJBI4&feature=related