2020 Japan Olympics

[matsuki]

///Notice that the new projected cost 153.7 billion yen for the Japanese design is so much better than the previous 169 billion yen price tag of the evil alien designed stadium that was rejected.

Could this get any more comical? (TIJ, we all know it can) It's the whole claim of savings when you save a single yen on a 6-pack of beer here....on the international stage.

[Samurai_Jerk]

Tokyo Olympics might cost $15 bln, 6 times orginal estimate

In a fresh blow to Tokyo's plans for the Games, both national and local taxpayers will have to help foot the huge increase in the bill to stage the sporting event, the Sankei Shimbun said Saturday.

The Tokyo Organising Committee of the Olympic and Paralympic Games and the Tokyo government expect the eventual cost of holding the Games to be 1.8 trillion yen ($14.84 billion), compared with the original estimate of 301.3 billion yen, Kyodo News said on Friday.

[Russell]

Tokyo Olympics might cost $15 bln, 6 times orginal estimate

In a fresh blow to Tokyo's plans for the Games, both national and local taxpayers will have to help foot the huge increase in the bill to stage the sporting event, the Sankei Shimbun said Saturday.

The Tokyo Organising Committee of the Olympic and Paralympic Games and the Tokyo government expect the eventual cost of holding the Games to be 1.8 trillion yen ($14.84 billion), compared with the original estimate of 301.3 billion yen, Kyodo News said on Friday.

Maybe time they do the same as with the stadium: reopen the bids.

And what is it with the miscalculation: 6 times???

[Mike Oxlong]

Tokyo Olympics might cost $15 bln, 6 times orginal estimate

In a fresh blow to Tokyo's plans for the Games, both national and local taxpayers will have to help foot the huge increase in the bill to stage the sporting event, the Sankei Shimbun said Saturday.

The Tokyo Organising Committee of the Olympic and Paralympic Games and the Tokyo government expect the eventual cost of holding the Games to be 1.8 trillion yen ($14.84 billion), compared with the original estimate of 301.3 billion yen, Kyodo News said on Friday.

Maybe time they do the same as with the stadium: reopen the bids.

And what is it with the miscalculation: 6 times???

Just going from memory here, but the two new proposed stadiums are barely 15 or perhaps 20 billion cheaper than the discarded 169 billion yen boondoogle, no?

[wagyl]

Why rely on memory when you only need to look at the top of this page? Fifteen billion Yen is correct.

[Mike Oxlong]

Why rely on memory when you only need to look at the top of this page? Fifteen billion Yen is correct.

Woah! Holy short-term memory fail! Anyway, the point that opening for rebid may not improve much still stands.

[kurogane]

You need to look at it backwards through the mirror darkly: reopening the bids would suggest that the original bidding process was not up to snuff, which would suggest that the organising committe is not up to snuff, and might even suggest the proposal itself was a pipe dream that was not up to snuff, so no, that won't happen. This is now about face (and timely completion) not money.

A shame really. I am totally opposed to proper countries bidding for the Olympics, but they really do like a Big Event and they're just so cute when they have one and it goes off well. I tire of being right about these boondoggle mega-projects.

[legion]

Fer Fucks sake

Some people run around a track, some people throw some items, some people swim, does that really have to cost more than Abe's quantitative bowels

[wagyl]

Fer Fucks sake

Some people run around a track, some people throw some items, some people swim, does that really have to cost more than [s]Abe's quantitative bowels[/s]

the handsome sum that McDonalds and Coca Cola etc. and the world's media organisations pay for the rights to associate themselves with the event and broadcast it?

[Takechanpoo]

while A design of the stadium was accepted, Zaha Hadid insists that the A design is surprisingly resemble to her withdrawn "helmet" design in the layout of seats and stadium, which her team spent 2 years for.
"we emphasize that the intellectual property right belongs to us"
http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/videonews/ ... 13-ann-int

[matsuki]

So....cancel the Olympics?

[legion]

Fer Fucks sake

Some people run around a track, some people throw some items, some people swim, does that really have to cost more than [s]Abe's quantitative bowels[/s]

the handsome sum that McDonalds and Coca Cola etc. and the world's media organisations pay for the rights to associate themselves with the event and broadcast it?

Which they can then claim against tax I believe ..........

[legion]

So....cancel the Olympics?

Just hold them on Toshima, which is part of Tokyo.

[Taro Toporific]

The Tokyo Olympic stadium's new design, Proposal B:
The Triple Veggie Burger

Kengo Kuma, picked to design Tokyo's new Olympic stadium (Triple Veggie Burger), is highly regarded in his field
The Japan Times | December 22, 2015

burger-stadium.jpg

[kurogane]

That's better than that self-portrait inspired loaded diaper design from the Iraqi-Gorgon. I still can't believe they wasted all that time and money on a foreign architect, especially that one. Her work is froofy goofy rubbish. Is open bidding a requirement of the Olympic bid itself, perhaps? Seems plausible but stupid.

[matsuki]

That things doesn't look soo bad but it also doesn't look drastically different than what was already there that could have been remodeled.

[kurogane]

Awwww, right. I forgot about the obvious choice they should have gone with. Not using or updating existing facilities is incredible, especially since it would have been a great bit of Olympic heritage to have the same stadium serve twice. Wasn't the '84 LA Games main stadium a re-use? Checked: yes.

[Takechanpoo]

Toyo Ito, who designed B plan, is also saying Kumas A plan is resemble to Zahas plan and it will maybe be sued by her.

[kurogane]

Surely the fact that it is oval and stacked aren't enough to warrant the Wicked Witch of Bagdad extending her evil claws? It doesn't look stupid, futuristic, or like a loaded diaper dumped upside down. But she does seem to be a right touchy cunt, so sue she might.

Anybody see any resemblance that might suggest plagiarism or property right infringement?

[Russell]

Surely the fact that it is oval and stacked aren't enough to warrant the Wicked Witch of Bagdad extending her evil claws? It doesn't look stupid, futuristic, or like a loaded diaper dumped upside down. But she does seem to be a right touchy cunt, so sue she might.

Anybody see any resemblance that might suggest plagiarism or property right infringement?

The claim seems to be that it is the arrangement of the seats.

[kurogane]

Aaaah, okay. Even so, how many ways can there be to arrange seats in a given structure of a certain shape, size and function? Not that I would know.........From what I read awhile back about the witch of Baghdad she is a huge lover of grapes......the sour kind, and her supporters seem to share that. Even allowing that some of the harsher criticisms of her chosen design seemed impolitic and unprofessonal it was a monstrosity that would have completely overwhelmed the setting, in MYHOMO.

[Yokohammer]

Japan's reputation re business practices heading directly for the gurgler once again:

But it was just a research competition!

Japan Sports Council 'refusing to pay' British architect for 2020 Tokyo Olympics stadium designs

The organisers of the 2020 Tokyo Olympic Games are refusing to pay a British architect for her designs for its main stadium unless she gives up the copyright and signs what amounts to a gagging order, it has been claimed.

Zaha Hadid Architects, which won the original contract to build a state-of-the-art national stadium in the Japanese capital, has reacted angrily to the attempt by the Japan Sports Council to effectively seize ownership of the copyrighted designs.
In documents sent to the London-based firm concerning payments for work completed before the design was scrapped in July, the JSC has inserted two new clauses.

In the revised agreement, a copy of which has been seen by The Telegraph, the JSC says the winner of a new competition for the design, which was announced in December, is "allowed to use any product of work ... regardless of its copyright".
It adds that Zaha Hadid Architects permits the JSC to "use Project Work freely, without additional payment or restriction (includes alteration and any other use) and mutually agrees that [Zaha Hadid Ltd.] will consent without objection".

The letter was sent by the JSC in response to a request submitted in October for the final payment for months of work between March and July of last year by architects and engineers in Japan and the UK, as well as dozens of sub-contractors.

The JSC is withholding the payment and demanding that Zaha Hadid Architects sign the revised agreement.

[Coligny]

Keep it classy japan... If it's too expensive to buy, just steal it...

[matsuki]

Endless corruption...discover Japan!

[Samurai_Jerk]

Endless corruption...discover Japan!

What? No chugoku mitai?

[kurogane]

At first glance it looks reasonable enough: they (and you) paid for it, so they get to keep it. Seems fair, for all I know about the architecture industry. Then you realise it's effectively a Tony Soprano transaction but with payment. Much as I dislike her work, and esp. her, like you said...................that looks bad. Allowing for the obvious Ripped Off in Japan aspect, is it abby normal for the architecture industry? It almost looks like a it was meant as a setup, though at that price I would hardly call it a clever deal.

The real outrage is that they chose her Big Wabenki in the first place.

[Takechanpoo]

japan-specific thinking framework was actuated.
"if you alone endure and tolerate an irrationality, all things work peacefully and "wa" is kept. otherwise youll be booted from this village."
2020 tokyo olyimpic will prove and impress the insufficience of j-modernization both within and outside japan.

[Yokohammer]

japan-specific thinking framework was actuated.
"if you alone endure and tolerate an irrationality, all things work peacefully and "wa" is kept. otherwise youll be booted from this village."
2020 tokyo olyimpic will prove and impress the insufficience of j-modernization both within and outside japan.

I hope you're not, but you might be right.

At first I was happy that Tokyo landed the 2020 olympics, believing it was chance to straighten things out and make some improvements. I should have remembered that I thought 3/11, as disastrous as it was, would result in some reflection and improvement too. Some things have changed for the better, but in general it has been an exercise in diverting the good to enrich and empower the rich and powerful. Very disappointing. I suppose it is reasonable to assume that the olympics will follow a similar path. I just hope the good outweighs the bad.

[Russell]

japan-specific thinking framework was actuated.
"if you alone endure and tolerate an irrationality, all things work peacefully and "wa" is kept. otherwise youll be booted from this village."
2020 tokyo olyimpic will prove and impress the insufficience of j-modernization both within and outside japan.

I hope you're not, but you might be right.

At first I was happy that Tokyo landed the 2020 olympics, believing it was chance to straighten things out and make some improvements. I should have remembered that I thought 3/11, as disastrous as it was, would result in some reflection and improvement too. Some things have changed for the better, but in general it has been an exercise in diverting the good to enrich and empower the rich and powerful. Very disappointing. I suppose it is reasonable to assume that the olympics will follow a similar path. I just hope the good outweighs the bad.

At least we will have non-smoking restaurants.

Yeah...

[Yokohammer]

And the situation looks like it's about to get worse ...

Japan "sponsorship money" to IAAF may have influenced 2020 bid

MUNICH (Kyodo) -- In a report released Thursday by the World Anti-Doping Agency, an independent commission mentioned evidence that several million dollars in sponsorship money reportedly paid by Japan to the International Association of Athletics Federations may have swayed then-IAAF chief Lamine Diack to favor Tokyo's bid for the 2020 Summer Olympics.