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US baseball official hits out at Japan over Classic

Postby Bucky » Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:35 am

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TOKYO (AFP) – A top US baseball official hit out at Japanese players Thursday for demanding more money to compete in the next World Baseball Classic, the sport's equivalent of the football World Cup. Jim Small, the managing director of the US Major League Baseball organisation in Japan, said paying Japanese players more to play at the event would mean less money for promoting the sport in new countries.

Japan are defending WBC champions but have yet to commit to the 2013 event.

"The issue is, they feel they should be compensated differently than right now," Small told reporters Thursday, according to Kyodo news agency. "We obviously disagree."

The US Major League Baseball organisation created the WBC to promote the game worldwide by featuring their stars fighting for their countries.

Small said Japanese players needed to understand that the WBC existed for the greater good of the game and not for making money.

"Our goal is for most of the money in the tournament to go back to into building baseball," he said, according to Kyodo.

With baseball out of the Olympics and no money coming from the International Olympic Committee, the WBC is now a vital source of revenue, he said.

"The Japanese players need to understand that every dollar they try to take for themselves is not going to baseball in China, baseball in South Africa, countries that need the development dollars," he said.
Small told Kyodo that he expects Japanese players to eventually come to their senses and try to win the championship for a third consecutive time.

". . .he expects Japanese players to eventually come to their senses. . ."Maybe, maybe not.
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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:37 am

Somehow I find this a bit rich considering MLB can't get the best American players into the WBC, thus allowing Japan to be the two-time champion in the first place.
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Postby Coligny » Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:08 am

Bucky wrote:
"The Japanese players need to understand that every dollar they try to take for themselves is not going to baseball in China, baseball in South Africa, countries that need the development dollars," http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101216/sp_afp/baseballworldjpnusa


Yeah, with arguments like that, it's sure going to be smooth and level headed deciziuns all around...
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Postby IparryU » Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:33 am

Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:Somehow I find this a bit rich considering MLB can't get the best American players into the WBC, thus allowing Japan to be the two-time champion in the first place.

really though... fuckin discrase (IPU spelling).

next the japs would be kicking our ass in Bball... no fuckin good.
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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:37 am

IparryU wrote:next the japs would be kicking our ass in Bball... no fuckin good.


They already do that, albeit in old Asahi SuperDry commercials...I used to love those; the 5' 2 Japanese guy coaching a team of 7'- 8' giants on how to play hoops.
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Postby Greji » Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:54 am

Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:Somehow I find this a bit rich considering MLB can't get the best American players into the WBC, thus allowing Japan to be the two-time champion in the first place.


Actually Hair, there are some reasons for players not competing. Some pro teams do not want their high profile (and high contract cost) players taking part in non-season or non post-season playoff games. Also, some agents are against this because of low reimbursements to the players and a chance of a career ending injury. J-teams and fans are the only ones who consider this the real world championship that must be played with a blood lust.

Having said that, Japan can't even get all of their MLB players envolved. For example, I don't think Godzilla as played in any of the WBC events, but will stand corrected.
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Postby Mulboyne » Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:15 pm

Greji wrote:Actually Hair, there are some reasons for players not competing. Some pro teams do not want their high profile (and high contract cost) players taking part in non-season or non post-season playoff games. Also, some agents are against this because of low reimbursements to the players and a chance of a career ending injury. J-teams and fans are the only ones who consider this the real world championship that must be played with a blood lust.

Having said that, Japan can't even get all of their MLB players envolved. For example, I don't think Godzilla as played in any of the WBC events, but will stand corrected.
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You know there's something wrong with the idea when, for a variety of reasons, some of the sport's best players don't turn out for a tournament billed as the World Championship.

Rather than trying to set something up as a fund raiser for the game's international ambitions, the organisers would be better off trying to establish a tournament with genuine credentials.

If the players feel the title is important, then audiences will also value it. That would be a better basis for promoting the game elsewhere.
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Postby matsuki » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:55 am

Mulboyne wrote:You know there's something wrong with the idea when, for a variety of reasons, some of the sport's best players don't turn out for a tournament billed as the World Championship.

Rather than trying to set something up as a fund raiser for the game's international ambitions, the organisers would be better off trying to establish a tournament with genuine credentials.

If the players feel the title is important, then audiences will also value it. That would be a better basis for promoting the game elsewhere.


Spot on here....but think about the Olympics. US gets it's ass handed to it time after time because most NBA players won't compete. It's all about the $$$$$$
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Postby Greji » Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:23 pm

Mulboyne wrote:You know there's something wrong with the idea when, for a variety of reasons, some of the sport's best players don't turn out for a tournament billed as the World Championship.

Rather than trying to set something up as a fund raiser for the game's international ambitions, the organisers would be better off trying to establish a tournament with genuine credentials.

If the players feel the title is important, then audiences will also value it. That would be a better basis for promoting the game elsewhere.


The fact of the matter is that this is really not supposed to be the World Championship per se. It is supposed to be promoting the sport around the world to attract other nations into the development of baseball (rounders, for POMs like Mulby:p ).

This is one of the reason people are pissed off a Japan for demanding money to play as the "defending champions" and not being for the propagation of the sport. Japan's position towards foreign participation and control of a player's ability to leave NPB add to this situation as well.
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Postby AssKissinger » Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:37 pm

Spot on here....but think about the Olympics. US gets it's ass handed to it time after time because most NBA players won't compete. It's all about the $$$$$$


America has won 13 out of 17 Gold Medals including 4 out of the last 5. The 2008 team included Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Jason Kidd, Dwyane Wade, Carmelo Anthony, Carlos Boozer, Dwight Howard, Chris Bosh, Chris Paul, and Deron Williams. If you don't think that's an incredible line-up you don't follow the NBA. The reason America loses from time to time is that many other countries produce great basketball players as well.

I think the World Baseball Classic is awesome and I hope it continues to succeed. I also wish Japan could do more to make Japanese baseball more balanced and to get more fans to come out to the games in more cities and more regularly. My impression of the best organized sports league in Japan is that it's J-League Soccer.
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Postby matsuki » Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:53 am

I could be wrong but the way they're explaining it, it sounds like maybe the Japan-side of things is shafting their own players and blaming it on MLB.
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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:41 pm

What really happened to keep Japan away from the WBC....

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Postby TennoChinko » Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:58 pm

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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Screwed-down Hairdo again.
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