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In Japan, an Odd Perch for Google: Looking Up at the Leader

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In Japan, an Odd Perch for Google: Looking Up at the Leader

Postby FG Lurker » Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:22 pm

In Japan, an Odd Perch for Google: Looking Up at the Leader
New York Times, November 29, 2009
[floatr]Image[/floatr]In 2001, a fledgling Internet company named Google opened its first overseas office in Japan, eager to tap a huge technology market.

But after eight years, Japan is one of a few major countries Google has yet to conquer. The Web giant still trails far behind Yahoo Japan, the front-runner here, operated by the Japanese telecommunications giant Softbank.

In a reversal of the rivalry in the United States, Yahoo Japan dominates Japan's Web search market with 56.5 percent of all queries, according to the Internet research company, GA-Pro. Google, at 33.7 percent, is a distant second.

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"Yahoo Japan is a Japanese company, and most of their employees are Japanese people who fluently understand how the Japanese mind-set and business work," said Nobuyuki Hayashi, a technology analyst. "But Google's still a foreigner who's learned how to speak some Japanese."

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There are some interesting points in the article but definitely some good ol' nihonjinron too. Yahoo has certainly managed to keep a large part of the search market here and it will be interesting to watch as Google tries to grab more of that share.
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Postby Mulboyne » Tue Dec 01, 2009 6:02 am

Funny, when I read Omae Mona's recent complaints, I was reminded of a foreign friend of mine who was recently offered a good job at Amazon Japan but turned it down because the company had become "too Japanese" and so had lost much of the flexibility of the parent company.
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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Tue Dec 01, 2009 8:23 am

I'd love to see Yahoo Japan toppled off its perch, even if it takes the all-pervading Google to do it.
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Postby sublight » Tue Dec 01, 2009 5:48 pm

After reading the "teething problem with online bureaucracy" discussion, this one started me wondering is there isn't some cultural predilection for godawful cluttered web design.

Compare Google Japan with Yahoo Japan

and online retailers Amazon Japan with Rakuten
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Postby FG Lurker » Tue Dec 01, 2009 5:58 pm

sublight wrote:After reading the "teething problem with online bureaucracy" discussion, this one started me wondering is there isn't some cultural predilection for godawful cluttered web design.

I've heard the same thing with regards to Japanese car design. So many cars here look like they have been designed by a committee and done in a way that everyone's ideas can be included no matter how ridiculous it may make the car look. The best nihonjinron I have heard to "explain" this is that Japanese will look at each element by itself rather than the entire product as a whole. :roll: Personally I think it's much more likely that if much of what you see is like this you just become accustomed to it...
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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Tue Dec 01, 2009 6:36 pm

FG Lurker wrote:The best nihonjinron I have heard to "explain" this is that Japanese will look at each element by itself rather than the entire product as a whole. :roll:


That's why Japan has four seasons....
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Tue Dec 01, 2009 9:18 pm

Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:That's why Japan has four seasons....


Holy shit. It all makes sense now.
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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Tue Dec 01, 2009 9:23 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:Holy shit. It all makes sense now.

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How can it make sense? You are gaijin....
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