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Postby Mulboyne » Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:27 pm

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J-Cast reports (Japanese) that times are getting tough for Japan's voice talents. Many professional voice talents have carved out decent careers providing the voices for the numerous anime characters in TV and movies. Recently, however, producers have begun to recruit high profile celebrities in their place. Although the price of hiring actors, models and TV stars is higher, the payback tends to come with greater media coverage and the chance to appeal to a wider audience. One instance which caused controversy recently was the casting for the recent Simpsons film. The team who had provided the voices for Homer, Marge, Bart and Lisa for the TV versions and DVDs were dropped in favour of popular celebrities (pictured above). This trend has been in place for some in America so it is not surprising that producers would look to match the star power of the cast of a major Hollywood production like Shrek but the article mentions that local productions are also increasingly bypassing professional voice talent. This year, idol Aya Ueto was used in "Piano no Mori", Meisa Kuroki, Shinosuke Tanihara and Yasuko Matsuyuki appeared in "Vexille" and Mina Monta has recently been cast in "ONE PIECE". Anime fans are unhappy at the trend. When Takuya Kimura of SMAP was cast in Hayao Miyazaki's "Howl's Moving Castle", many felt that it would be difficult to separate his profile from his character which is easy to do with a relatively anonymous voice actor. One producer rebutted the criticism by pointing out that many of the celebrities being used are talented performers who can quickly pick up the skills necessary to voice a character effectively and anyone who can't doesn't get used. Although voice actors are unhappy at losing out on jobs, the article ends with the suggestion that they will have to broaden their appeal into acting, singing and variety TV to remain on level terms.
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Postby Taro Toporific » Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:49 pm

J-Cast reports .... Recently, however, producers have begun to recruit high profile celebrities in their place....

This same trend has happened over the past 10 years in Hollywood animations, especially in Disney projects. The voice actress April Winchellwho has voiced dozens of Disney characters in animations describes it as follows....[INDENT]....I've made my living doing cartoon voices for quite a while. That's been my bread and butter, and up until a few years ago, I was probably one of the pre-eminent women in that field.
Then the celebrities took over.
True, there have been celebrities in animation for years, but it used to be in starring roles. Robin Williams in Aladdin. Jeremy Irons in Lion King. Robby Benson in Beauty and The Beast. I never had a problem with that. Well, except for the fact that it was Robby Benson, which creeped me out. But that's hardly the point.
The point is, celebrities now voice all the roles. Everything, including the little tiny parts people like me used to do. I am practically obsolete.
I guess it would be one thing if we were talking about people with distinctive voices and good acting abilities. But that's not the case. It's anyone with any celebrity at all. I saw Robots not long ago, and Al Roker was the voice of the mailbox.
So I've watched my livelihood pretty much wither away over the last few years. I've gone from working a few times a week to a few times a month to a few times a year. It's brutal....
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Postby Hokgwai » Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:16 am

What they need to do is have faith in the performances of the orginal actors and use subtitles.

The voice over is the lamest thing ever introduced to international cinema.

People should be able to read you know.

The animation process is different in Japan as compared to the States. In America, usually the voice talent records the dialogue FIRST and THEN the animators animate the characters to talent's performance, tempo and pacing.

It's so lame when voice over talent tries to match up their interpretation of the energy they see on screen.....it's so lame and I hate to say it but much of the nuance that was originally presented gets lost in translation....or rather, lost in misinterpretation.
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Postby unkosando » Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:24 pm

Hokgwai wrote:What they need to do is have faith in the performances of the orginal actors and use subtitles.

The voice over is the lamest thing ever introduced to international cinema.

People should be able to read you know.


In the case of the Simpsons I agree... But most animated films from the states are targeted towards kids under 11, who don't really enjoy subtitles.

About using stars as voice talent...
I believe there is some merit in idea of using comedians. Take the donkey from Shrek for example. I highly doubt that you could get the same performance from a voice actor that you would get from Eddie Murphy. But unfortunately, using big name actors overshadows the real stars of animation, the animators.
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Postby Charles » Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:58 pm

I remember back in the 80s when I was working with cartoonists at Marvel, they were the first studio to ask "name" actors to do voice work for cheesy cartoons like The Transformers. The actors all did it for a laugh (and not much money), it was an insider's joke when you had people like Leonard Nimoy or Scatman Crothers doing the voices.
But relatively anonymous voice actors still predominated at the cheaper levels. Then Pixar and a few big budget productions used name actors, and it's been big names ever since.
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Postby Mulboyne » Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:27 pm

[floatl]Image[/floatl]A recent survey asked whether voice actors are preferable to other performers. 12.5% of respondents though they were worse; 42.3% thought they were better and 45.2% thought it didn't matter who did it as long as they were capable. Not quite the resounding vote of confidence for which voice actors might have hoped but the poll only had 426 respondents so it has no great claims to be representative.
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Postby GuyJean » Sat Sep 06, 2008 12:35 am

Mulboyne wrote:[floatl]Image[/floatl]A recent survey asked whether voice actors are preferable to other performers...
Nemo was good.. But it's gone too far, IMO.. I don't wanna see Robin Williams snorting coke & babbling in my mind when I'm watching a fuckin' penguin talk on the screen.. Give me a real voice actor any day.

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