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Possibly why some Anime and Manga are so dark

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Possibly why some Anime and Manga are so dark

Postby John Dillinger » Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:34 am

As many of us have heard, many manga artists and animators were influenced by Western comics and cartoons. Well, judging from this, I think I know where they also got ideas for some of the more horrifying and bizarre stuff that's been created.http://www.cracked.com/article_22602_8-horrifying-moments-from-classic-kids-cartoons.html
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Re: Possibly why some Anime and Manga are so dark

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:52 am

John Dillinger wrote:As many of us have heard, many manga artists and animators were influenced by Western comics and cartoons. Well, judging from this, I think I know where they also got ideas for some of the more horrifying and bizarre stuff that's been created.http://www.cracked.com/article_22602_8-horrifying-moments-from-classic-kids-cartoons.html


You're really stretching to make this Japan related.
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Re: Possibly why some Anime and Manga are so dark

Postby Coligny » Mon Jul 13, 2015 12:07 pm

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Re: Possibly why some Anime and Manga are so dark

Postby John Dillinger » Mon Jul 13, 2015 4:47 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:
John Dillinger wrote:As many of us have heard, many manga artists and animators were influenced by Western comics and cartoons. Well, judging from this, I think I know where they also got ideas for some of the more horrifying and bizarre stuff that's been created.http://www.cracked.com/article_22602_8-horrifying-moments-from-classic-kids-cartoons.html


You're really stretching to make this Japan related.


Maybe so. Still, while I knew the Japanese have made some really bizarre anime, it was a bit of a surprise to find Western stuff, primarily in the 30's that was sodamned strange. :shock:
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Re: Possibly why some Anime and Manga are so dark

Postby Coligny » Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:13 pm

Living in a cave all those years ?
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Re: Possibly why some Anime and Manga are so dark

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:15 pm

Coligny wrote:Living in a cave all those years ?


Apparently so.
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Re: Possibly why some Anime and Manga are so dark

Postby matsuki » Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:36 pm

I knew there was some nutty stuff but that link was pretty good at getting to specifics...
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Re: Possibly why some Anime and Manga are so dark

Postby Takechanpoo » Fri Mar 04, 2016 7:22 pm

Kumiko Yamada, Representative and Designer of the Japan Women’s Institute Of Contemporary Media Culture, lambasted the UN for its proposal to ban popular media that depicts sexual violence.


We are absolutely in agreement that the protection of the rights of women in Japan is important. On the other hand, we think it should be carefully and seriously evaluated whether the measures taken to ensure those protections are valid ones or not. If we are asked to consider whether “Protecting Women’s Rights in Japan” requires us to “Ban the Sale of Manga and Video Games Depicting Sexual Violence,” then we must reply that that is an absolute “no.”

Reasons for Our Opinion:

Reason #1 – The so-called sexual violence in manga and video games is a made-up thing and as such does not threaten the rights of actual people; therefore, it is meaningless in protecting the rights of women.

Reason #2 – In Japan, and especially when it comes to manga, these are creative fields that women themselves cultivated and worked hard by their own hand to create careers for themselves. If we were to “ban the sale of manga that includes sexual violence,” it would do the opposite and instead create a new avenue of sexism toward women.

http://games.mxdwn.com/news/japan-women ... deo-games/
http://nichegamer.com/2016/03/japanese- ... -violence/
but still i personally think some appropriate regulations for those manga/anime and games depicted sexual violence is absolutely needed for canary-like susceptible innocent youngers.
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Re: Possibly why some Anime and Manga are so dark

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:00 pm

Takechanpoo wrote:
Kumiko Yamada, Representative and Designer of the Japan Women’s Institute Of Contemporary Media Culture, lambasted the UN for its proposal to ban popular media that depicts sexual violence.


We are absolutely in agreement that the protection of the rights of women in Japan is important. On the other hand, we think it should be carefully and seriously evaluated whether the measures taken to ensure those protections are valid ones or not. If we are asked to consider whether “Protecting Women’s Rights in Japan” requires us to “Ban the Sale of Manga and Video Games Depicting Sexual Violence,” then we must reply that that is an absolute “no.”

Reasons for Our Opinion:

Reason #1 – The so-called sexual violence in manga and video games is a made-up thing and as such does not threaten the rights of actual people; therefore, it is meaningless in protecting the rights of women.

Reason #2 – In Japan, and especially when it comes to manga, these are creative fields that women themselves cultivated and worked hard by their own hand to create careers for themselves. If we were to “ban the sale of manga that includes sexual violence,” it would do the opposite and instead create a new avenue of sexism toward women.

http://games.mxdwn.com/news/japan-women ... deo-games/
http://nichegamer.com/2016/03/japanese- ... -violence/
but still i personally think some appropriate regulations for those manga/anime and games depicted sexual violence is absolutely needed for canary-like susceptible innocent youngers.


Aren't children restricted from buying that stuff?
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Re: Possibly why some Anime and Manga are so dark

Postby Coligny » Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:05 pm

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You don't want parents to actually have some parenting to do !?
Especially in japan where every clown in town is way to focused on looking busy to get anything actually done ...
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Re: Possibly why some Anime and Manga are so dark

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Re: Possibly why some Anime and Manga are so dark

Postby kurogane » Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:07 am

Samurai_Jerk wrote:
Takechanpoo wrote:
Kumiko Yamada, Representative and Designer of the Japan Women’s Institute Of Contemporary Media Culture, lambasted the UN for its proposal to ban popular media that depicts sexual violence:


We are absolutely in agreement that the protection of the rights of women in Japan is important. On the other hand,
Reason #1 – The so-called sexual violence in manga and video games is a made-up thing and as such does not threaten the rights of actual people; therefore, it is meaningless in protecting the rights of women.

Reason #2 – In Japan, ...............If we were to “ban the sale of manga that includes sexual violence,” it would do the opposite and instead create a new avenue of sexism toward women.


Even allowing for the hysteria of a lot of Western anti-porn lobbyists that is some impressively fucked up quibbling.
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Re: Possibly why some Anime and Manga are so dark

Postby matsuki » Mon Mar 07, 2016 2:07 pm

What us the new avenue of sexism she speaks of? Femi-nazi hate?
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Re: Possibly why some Anime and Manga are so dark

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Mon Mar 07, 2016 2:13 pm

matsuki wrote:What us the new avenue of sexism she speaks of? Femi-nazi hate?


Try clicking on the links Take provided.
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Re: Possibly why some Anime and Manga are so dark

Postby matsuki » Mon Mar 07, 2016 2:38 pm

I did, and I agree with most of her points...just don't understand the what "new avenue of sexism" she's referring to.
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Mon Mar 07, 2016 2:41 pm

matsuki wrote:I did, and I agree with most of her points...just don't understand the what "new avenue of sexism" she's referring to.


Her argument is that a lot of those manga are created by women so stifling their ability to freely express themselves would be sexist.
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Re: Possibly why some Anime and Manga are so dark

Postby matsuki » Mon Mar 07, 2016 2:53 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:
matsuki wrote:I did, and I agree with most of her points...just don't understand the what "new avenue of sexism" she's referring to.


Her argument is that a lot of those manga are created by women so stifling their ability to freely express themselves would be sexist.


...but in the same breath she's also arguing that some of the depicted sexual violence is against men and therefore it's not a gender-based issue.

Either way, I agree that limits on this type of material are ridiculous EXCEPT when those limits are in the form of preventing the distribution to minors.
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Re: Possibly why some Anime and Manga are so dark

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Mon Mar 07, 2016 3:58 pm

matsuki wrote:
Samurai_Jerk wrote:
matsuki wrote:I did, and I agree with most of her points...just don't understand the what "new avenue of sexism" she's referring to.


Her argument is that a lot of those manga are created by women so stifling their ability to freely express themselves would be sexist.


...but in the same breath she's also arguing that some of the depicted sexual violence is against men and therefore it's not a gender-based issue.

Either way, I agree that limits on this type of material are ridiculous EXCEPT when those limits are in the form of preventing the distribution to minors.


Well I didn't say I agreed with her or that her reasoning was sound. I think a better argument is free expression should be allowed. Maybe that's not a winning one these days though since both liberal social engineers and conservative authoritarians want to limit our speech.
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Re: Possibly why some Anime and Manga are so dark

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