certain things mailed to you

[Coligny]

methinks someone's sarcasm meter is in need of a tune-up.. ]

There's sarcasm, and there is this kind of posts who can't seems to refrain from shitting on the topic.

The ETC thread was another example. It's like technical threads where someone ask tips about how to tweak something in windows and some genius just answer to switch to linux.


to quote again:

I wholeheartedly encourage you to try this if you are so sure you won't get your sorry ass thrown in jail. While you're at it, in Vancouver you can get medical-grade heroin prescribed so why not bring some of that along too? I'm sure immigration will be very understanding.

I'm not talking about being a total cretin with the customs, I'm talking about honest behaviour. And if my memory serve me well, cancer patient have access to opoids even in japan. Once again, declaring upfront what you have, why, and asking authorisation to import it is not like smugling. I KNOW that you need to misunderstand my statement to allow you to have the last word. But I'm talking about behaviour done in good faith. Which sems to be a notion totally absent from whatever realm you are dwelling.

[nottu]

[omae mona]

I'm not talking about being a total cretin with the customs, I'm talking about honest behaviour. And if my memory serve me well, cancer patient have access to opoids even in japan. Once again, declaring upfront what you have, why, and asking authorisation to import it is not like smugling. I KNOW that you need to misunderstand my statement to allow you to have the last word. But I'm talking about behaviour done in good faith. Which sems to be a notion totally absent from whatever realm you are dwelling.

Coligny, there is no need to get snooty about this. I don't know who is correct, but others in this thread legitimately believe you are giving bad advice that could land somebody in jail, and they're attempting to set the record straight from their point of view.

You have a theory that if you import illegal drugs but are honest with customs, then you will not be punished. Others here legitimately disagree with you. Their disagreement with you is not "shitting on the topic", though I admit I do not really understand that English phrase.

[FG Lurker]

I KNOW that you need to misunderstand my statement to allow you to have the last word.

I don't misunderstand you at all. The simple fact is that you're wrong.

Japan has no tolerance for people bringing in banned "hard" drugs. The whole "prescription" thing is NOT for drugs that are full-on illegal here. This system is for drugs that either aren't yet approved here or that are approved here but that the person has obtained from their doctor overseas.

Seriously, do you think that Japan is going to allow people to bring in banned narcotics just because they have a "prescription" from some overseas "doctor"? No potential at all for that to be abused!

[james]

I'm talking about honest behaviour.

i'm interested in hearing more about this parallel universe japan where honest behaviour is rewarded..

[Coligny]

Seriously, do you think that Japan is going to allow people to bring in banned narcotics just because they have a "prescription" from some overseas "doctor"? No potential at all for that to be abused!

I AM NOT SAYING THEY WILL LET YOU GO IN WITH THE FRACKING DRUG.

I SAID SEVERAL, TIMES NOW, THAT IF YOU DECLARE IT UPFRONT WITH THE OFFICIAL MEDICAL PRESCRIPTION IT MAKE NO SENSE TO THROW YOU IN JAIL AND THE PROPER BEHAVIOUR FROM THE CUSTOMS SHOULD BE TO SIMPLY CONFISCATE IT. YOU WANT ME TO DRAW PRETTY PICTURE DEPICTING THE SITUATION ?

(difference between smuggling and request for permission to import)

[Mulboyne]

I AM NOT SAYING THEY WILL LET YOU GO IN WITH THE FRACKING DRUG.

I SAID SEVERAL, TIMES NOW, THAT IF YOU DECLARE IT UPFRONT WITH THE OFFICIAL MEDICAL PRESCRIPTION IT MAKE NO SENSE TO THROW YOU IN JAIL AND THE PROPER BEHAVIOUR FROM THE CUSTOMS SHOULD BE TO SIMPLY CONFISCATE IT. YOU WANT ME TO DRAW PRETTY PICTURE DEPICTING THE SITUATION ?

(difference between smuggling and request for permission to import)

My problem with what you say here is that this thread is in a forum called "Fucked Advice". You are saying that if someone turns up with an illegal drug in Japan then he or she will be fine provided they have a prescription and declare it to customs where it will probably be confiscated but the visitor allowed through. I think what you say is possible. But I can also envisage a case where the customs official takes a very dim view of the situation and decides to stick the visitor in a windowless room while they consider whether to prosecute or just move straight to deportation. If that happened, then your advice here wouldn't just be bad, it would be disastrous.

[Mike Oxlong]

Maybe C is just trying to say...

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[FG Lurker]

I SAID SEVERAL, TIMES NOW, THAT IF YOU DECLARE IT UPFRONT WITH THE OFFICIAL MEDICAL PRESCRIPTION IT MAKE NO SENSE TO THROW YOU IN JAIL AND THE PROPER BEHAVIOUR FROM THE CUSTOMS SHOULD BE TO SIMPLY CONFISCATE IT.

And you think it is me who dwells in some sort of alternate reality?

You seem to be another Charles or Jack...Someone who thinks he knows everything about Japan but who hasn't actually spent any real time here.

[james]

I SAID SEVERAL, TIMES NOW, THAT IF YOU DECLARE IT UPFRONT WITH THE OFFICIAL MEDICAL PRESCRIPTION IT MAKE NO SENSE TO THROW YOU IN JAIL AND THE PROPER BEHAVIOUR FROM THE CUSTOMS SHOULD BE TO SIMPLY CONFISCATE IT. YOU WANT ME TO DRAW PRETTY PICTURE DEPICTING THE SITUATION ?

that statement alone is wholly indicative of your complete obliviousness to the situation. i'd also question if you've even spent much time here.

what may "MAKE SENSE" to you or may even be logical or the case elsewhere is not necessarily what would happen here - in fact, quite the opposite most likely. "logical" from one person's perspective - especially a foreigner in japan - and "true" are two very different things. perhaps if you make a visit here though, you'd like to put your convictions to the test with the friendly folks at customs and immigration. i'm sure they would be more than enthusiastic to allow a potential user into the country rather than give them the rubber glove treatment before booting their arse back out on the next plane to france.

and btw, just because you state something "SEVERAL TIMES" doesn't make it fact.

[omae mona]

and btw, just because you state something "SEVERAL TIMES" doesn't make it fact.

BUT TYPING IT IN UPPER CASE DOES MAKE IT FACT!!!

Coligny, everybody perfectly understands what you are saying. They just think you are wrong. The law does not always match with what you think is "common sense". Many people have found themselves in legal trouble by assuming otherwise. As always, readers here are advised to consult with lawyers, the Japanese embassy, or other experts before making any decisions that could put them in jail.

I am sure we all agree, though, that the original poster's idea is outright illegal and dangerous.

[Coligny]

that statement alone is wholly indicative of your complete obliviousness to the situation. i'd also question if you've even spent much time here.

what may "MAKE SENSE" to you or may even be logical or the case elsewhere is not necessarily what would happen here - in fact, quite the opposite most likely. "logical" from one person's perspective - especially a foreigner in japan - and "true" are two very different things. perhaps if you make a visit here though, you'd like to put your convictions to the test with the friendly folks at customs and immigration. i'm sure they would be more than enthusiastic to allow a potential user into the country rather than give them the rubber glove treatment before booting their arse back out on the next plane to france.

and btw, just because you state something "SEVERAL TIMES" doesn't make it fact.

There is no legal use of these drugs in France therefore the point is moot.
For those thinking i'm not in Japan. Yeah... whatever... I kinda don't give a frack about clowns running out of crap to have the last word. Because, the last word is in the official guidelines on how to handle such case. Which is partially stated here:

Import Prohibited or RestrictedDrugs

* Import of stimulants (Amphetamine, Metamphetamine, etc.) is prohibited by the Stimulants Control law.
* An importer of Narcotics, Psychotropic drugs needs a license from the Director-General Regional Bureau of Health and Welfare under the Narcotics and Psychotropics Control Law.An contact point for the application of the Narcotics Control Department of the Bureau.
* In accordance with CITES (Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species), import of drugs including the following substances is restricted.

e.g.)
1. Rhinoceros horn
2. Musk
3. Tiger bones
4. Fel Ursi etc.

Source:

http://www.mhlw.go.jp/english/topics/import/index.html

So it's not exactly black and white.

[Gilligan]

Source:

http://www.mhlw.go.jp/english/topics/import/index.html

So it's not exactly black and white.

In other words, how the situation is to be handled is at the discretion of the immigration official in charge at the time. Good luck with that.

[FG Lurker]

So it's not exactly black and white.

What part of this isn't black and white? "Import of stimulants (Amphetamine, Metamphetamine, etc.) is prohibited by the Stimulants Control law."

Anyway, please give it a try when entering Japan. You can be the next idiot gaijin pleading ignorance of Japan's laws but still getting your ass thrown in prison.

[Samurai_Jerk]

So it's not exactly black and white.

Yeah, but it's still different from what you said and has nothing to do with what people including you have been talking about. As an individual I can't bring arms on an airplane with me but there are probably companies that import arms for use by the SDF. I'm sure labs at some companies, universities, or government institutions import certain banned substances for testing and R&D purposes.

That's very different from me trying to fly in with a bottle of amphetamines and a prescription in a foreign language from a doctor overseas and hoping the guy in customs doesn't decided to give me the latex glove teatment and put me on an international drug smuggler watch list. If you can't understand that, you're not the warmest baguette in the bakery.

Maybe I should bring over some uranium in my suitcase next time. I'm sure the customs guys will understand if I explain I'm planning to sell it to a nuclear power plant.

[nottu]

[kurohinge1]

I just want to add that I've had packages sent by regular mail opened and checked by postal authorities in Japan. Luckily, I was never receiving anything but clothes.

I love how innocent that sounds - without a photo of the "clothes".

SJ's "clothes" packages should be illegal!

[baka tono]

Oh man this thread is one example of why FG is my WaiWai. The guy asking about the abortion a few weeks ago was better but still this is pretty good. I like it when someone keeps insisting that a group of people including some who have been here so long they sailed over with Perry dont know what they are talking about.

[Coligny]

Oh man this thread is one example of why FG is my WaiWai. The guy asking about the abortion a few weeks ago was better but still this is pretty good. I like it when someone keeps insisting that a group of people including some who have been here so long they sailed over with Perry dont know what they are talking about.

Yeah... and the game can last for ever, since some want to look up the law against adderal (stimulant so no good), other talk about Medical MJ (is it a stimulant or a narcotic ? link provided have 2 different outcomes). While some other just want to says that cops are pigs anyway focused on anally probing ou with rubber gloves before sending you back to jail and in your country at the same time.

I'm giving up on this thread. I'm used to play laws by the book. Not to try every way to bypass them in order to impress friends at the pub.

[kurohinge1]

. . . I like it when someone keeps insisting that a group of people including some who have been here so long they sailed over with Perry dont know what they are talking about.

You know Greji & Taro-san don't like to admit that.

[nottu]

[Gilligan]

Actually, they were here before Perry, which is why Perry had such a difficult time when he arrived.

I thought Perry had a tough time when he arrived because he was trying to bring in some adderall.

[Mike Oxlong]

Went under a different brand name back then...

Polar Bear Snuff.

[nottu]

[Iraira]

Polar Bear Snuff.

Polar bears fucking and then killing each other on film...that's a new one. Sorry, it's Thursday, my mind is in the gutter.

[Cyka UchuuJin]

I am sure we all agree, though, that the original poster's idea is outright illegal and dangerous.

you forgot 'and really stupid'.

In other words, how the situation is to be handled is at the discretion of the immigration official in charge at the time. Good luck with that.

i highly recommend entering with the stuff via KIX and testing the discretions of the officers there, they're a solid lot when it comes to interpreting the laws.

[Mulboyne]

[omae mona]

Ah yes, I have family members who are quite familiar with that inaka taxi company (S Taxi) and I think I have used their cars myself. Are you implying they have something for sale inside their vehicles, not available through normal retail channels?

[Mulboyne]

Polar Bear Snuff.

Nearly a polar bear snuff here:

[Cyka UchuuJin]

Nearly a polar bear snuff here:

anyone who is dumb enough to jump into a polar bear enclosure deserves to be mauled.

what a fucking moron!