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Postby Greji » Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:22 pm

Cyka UchuuJin wrote:anyone who is dumb enough to jump into a polar bear enclosure deserves to be mauled.

what a fucking moron! :shock:


If you saw it on the news, you would get the idea the polar bear didn't want her there as well. I mean that fat ass wouldn't turn a faucet on. Ah shit, I'm sorry AO, I forgot....
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Postby kurohinge1 » Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:23 pm

Mulboyne wrote:
Nearly a polar bear snuff here: . . .


. . . Last December a man who afterwards said he was "lonely" survived jumping into the same zoo enclosure when keepers diverted the bears with chunks of beef. . .


These Germans need to find some safer ways to meet each other.

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Postby Mike Oxlong » Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:28 pm

She kinda looks like a seal. Honest mistake if the bear consumed her as prey. :razz:
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Postby Mock Cockpit » Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:03 pm

Mike Oxlong wrote:She kinda looks like a seal. Honest mistake if the bear consumed her as prey. :razz:

Reminds me of this true story.
In 1986, Peter Davies was on holiday in Kenya after graduating from Northwestern University

On a hike through the bush, he came across a young bull elephant standing with one leg raised in the air. The elephant seemed distressed, so Peter approached it very carefully.

He got down on one knee and inspected the elephant's foot and found a large piece of wood deeply embedded in it. As carefully and as gently as he could, Peter worked the wood out with his hunting knife, after which the elephant gingerly put down its foot. The elephant turned to face the man, and with a rather curious look on its face, stared at him for several tense moments. Peter stood frozen, thinking of nothing else but being trampled. Eventually the elephant trumpeted loudly, turned, and walked away. Peter never forgot that elephant or the events of that day.

Twenty years later, Peter was walking through the Chicago Zoo with his teenaged son. As they approached the elephant enclosure, one of the creatures turned and walked over to near where Peter and his son Cameron were standing. The large bull elephant stared at Peter, lifted its front foot off the ground, then put it down. The elephant did that several times then trumpeted loudly, all the while staring at the man.

Remembering the encounter in 1986, Peter couldn't help wondering if this was the same elephant. Peter summoned up his courage, climbed over the railing and made his way into the enclosure. He walked right up to the elephant and stared back in wonder. The elephant trumpeted again, wrapped its trunk around one of Peter legs and slammed his stupid ass against the railing, killing him instantly.

Probably wasn't the same elephant.
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Postby dimwit » Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:56 pm

So er.. a friend of a friend of mines wants to get a polar bear mailed to Japan. He needs it so it can clean up the trash in my father ...er his fathers' house. Do you think the customs officals would notice or hassle him about it.
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Postby Greji » Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:22 am

dimwit wrote:So er.. a friend of a friend of mines wants to get a polar bear mailed to Japan. He needs it so it can clean up the trash in my father ...er his fathers' house. Do you think the customs officals would notice or hassle him about it.


Probably not if doesn't come through KIX!
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Brain Gain -- The underground world of "neuroenhancing" drugs.

Postby FG Lurker » Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:36 pm

Brain Gain -- The underground world of "neuroenhancing" drugs.
The New Yorker, April 21, 2009
A young man I'll call Alex recently graduated from Harvard. As a history major, Alex wrote about a dozen papers a semester. He also ran a student organization, for which he often worked more than forty hours a week; when he wasn't on the job, he had classes. Weeknights were devoted to all the schoolwork that he couldn't finish during the day, and weekend nights were spent drinking with friends and going to dance parties. "Trite as it sounds," he told me, it seemed important to "maybe appreciate my own youth." Since, in essence, this life was impossible, Alex began taking Adderall to make it possible.

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Alex remains enthusiastic about Adderall, but he also has a slightly jaundiced critique of it. "It only works as a cognitive enhancer insofar as you are dedicated to accomplishing the task at hand," he said. "The number of times I've taken Adderall late at night and decided that, rather than starting my paper, hey, I'll organize my entire music library! I've seen people obsessively cleaning their rooms on it." Alex thought that generally the drug helped him to bear down on his work, but it also tended to produce writing with a characteristic flaw. "Often, I've looked back at papers I've written on Adderall, and they're verbose. They're belaboring a point, trying to create this airtight argument, when if you just got to your point in a more direct manner it would be stronger. But with Adderall I'd produce two pages on something that could be said in a couple of sentences." Nevertheless, his Adderall-assisted papers usually earned him at least a B. They got the job done. As Alex put it, "Productivity is a good thing."

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It's a long and quite interesting article.

Thinking back to my college days of insane workloads, part time work, and of course some sort of social life, I can see how it would be attractive. Hopefully for these kids there aren't any unknown long-term affects...
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Postby Mike Oxlong » Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:39 pm

If you would like to learn more about what happens when you order certain prohibited substances online to be sent to your home, here's a case study:

English teachers busted on drug charges
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Postby wuchan » Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:14 pm

Mike Oxlong wrote:If you would like to learn more about what happens when you order certain prohibited substances online to be sent to your home, here's a case study:

English teachers busted on drug charges

what the hell is mind candy? And when will people learn that post office shipments are not secure.
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Postby BigInJapan » Fri Jun 26, 2009 6:33 pm

Mike Oxlong wrote:If you would like to learn more about what happens when you order certain prohibited substances online to be sent to your home, here's a case study:

English teachers busted on drug charges

Glad to see the JET program is still bringing over the cream of the crop to educate Japan's youth...
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Re: certain things mailed to you

Postby Taro Toporific » Mon Mar 02, 2015 10:30 am

Lizzie wrote:My friend is an American student and she wants adderall mailed to her here in Japan.


A bottle of prescribed Adderall lands an Oregon woman in a Japanese jail
OregonLive.com / March 1, 2015
Hillsboro physician Jill Russell never imagined a problem would result from mailing a refill of Adderall Jan. 6 to her daughter, Carrie, in South Korea.
Carrie Russell also expected no trouble when she in turn shipped the medication routinely prescribed by U.S. doctors for attention deficit disorder to Nagoya, Japan, where she planned to teach English.
But at 11 p.m. on Feb. 20, according to Russell's Portland-area family, five plain-clothed police officers in black suits burst into a Tokyo restaurant where the 26-year-old American was dining with friends. They took her into custody. She was taken 275 miles west to Nagoya, where she was incarcerated in a women's detention center outside the city.
Russell, a 2012 Western Oregon University graduate, remains in jail on suspicion of smuggling amphetamines into Japan. A U.S. consular official and a Nagoya lawyer, hired by family members, have visited her. They've told the family that Russell has been held in solitary confinement and subjected to numerous interrogations.
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Postby wagyl » Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:26 am

Once again a reporter from another dimension...
White-collar workers use speed to toil long hours. Students take it to pull all-nighters. Truck drivers rely on it to stay awake.

I won't deny that those events can happen, but I don't think they are common enough to be trotted out without a qualifier as to how rare that is. Then again, I might be mistaken. After all, where I am could hardly be described as
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Postby Coligny » Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:28 am

Sux to be dumb I guess...

http://www.seattle.us.emb-japan.go.jp/a ... tions.html
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Postby Yokohammer » Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:42 am

Coligny wrote:Sux to be dumb I guess...

http://www.seattle.us.emb-japan.go.jp/a ... tions.html

That embassy page is pretty clear on the subject, isn't it. It even specifies Aderall as a prohibited substance.

It may be an unfortunate confluence of circumstances, but you'd think the girl's mother, a physician, a professional who at least should have a clue about such issues, would do some checking and think ahead before sending something like that to another country. She could have warned her daughter not to send it to Japan.

I know people can't always keep track of everything that's going on in and around their lives, but there are a few things that really need to be kept in focus at all times. This was one of 'em.
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Re: certain things mailed to you

Postby yanpa » Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:11 pm

For those of us not familiar with US prescription drugs, "adderall" is "a psychostimulant drug of the phenethylamine class used in the treatment of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and narcolepsy. Adderall is also used as a performance and cognitive enhancer, and recreationally as an aphrodisiac and euphoriant" (according to Whackypedia).
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Postby 6810 » Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:08 pm

So fucking dumb.

Three months' supply of illegal drugs "repackaged" so paw widdle Cawwiy's "reputation [wouldn't] suffer in case someone opening her household shipments noticed the medication."

Yerp, more to this story than meets the one-eyed trouser snake. Lots and lotsa retconning going on for this backstory.

Also, couldn't police have just gone to her place of residence to do the arrest? 5 plain clothed officers to arrest a 26 year old Murrcan (I have heard that even the girls over there are bred big, so safety precaution?) in a restaurant. Must have sucked to have been that restaurant...

Or maybe, just maybe they were in on it? Free advertising!

It all makes sense now. Conspiracy of justice... averted!
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Postby matsuki » Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:44 pm

Also, couldn't police have just gone to her place of residence to do the arrest? 5 plain clothed officers to arrest a 26 year old Murrcan (I have heard that even the girls over there are bred big, so safety precaution?) in a restaurant. Must have sucked to have been that restaurant...


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Family members have worked on the case since Feb. 21, when Russell's father received word of Carrie's arrest from one of her friends. Russell's stepfather, Portland lawyer Loren Podwill, immediately contacted the U.S. Embassy in Tokyo to find out where she was.

It took U.S. diplomats 24 hours to locate her. The National Police Agency hadn't notified the embassy of her arrest, a step normally taken when Japanese police apprehend an American.


I think even ISIS is better about getting in touch than this....

So from everything presented, I doubt she's a drug dealer nor was she "abusing" the prescription...instead you have a really innocent/stupid move on her part.

Japan has some of the world's toughest drug laws. Police announce frequent amphetamine busts. Therefore the idea that Adderall might have some legitimate medical use elsewhere strikes Japanese officers as far-fetched.


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Postby Yokohammer » Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:58 pm

chokonen888 wrote:
Japan has some of the world's toughest drug laws. Police announce frequent amphetamine busts. Therefore the idea that Adderall might have some legitimate medical use elsewhere strikes Japanese officers as far-fetched.


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Exactly. I think the "Mostest Stupidest" award goes to whoever wrote the article. That comment was just pulled out of an ass somewhere.
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Postby matsuki » Mon Mar 02, 2015 2:22 pm

Yokohammer wrote:
chokonen888 wrote:
Japan has some of the world's toughest drug laws. Police announce frequent amphetamine busts. Therefore the idea that Adderall might have some legitimate medical use elsewhere strikes Japanese officers as far-fetched.


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Exactly. I think the "Mostest Stupidest" award goes to whoever wrote the article. That comment was just pulled out of an ass somewhere.


Indeed, while I may not agree with their KGB-like execution of the arrest and ridiculous detainment situation....the opinion of "Japanese officers" on the use hardly matters in regards to the legality of the drugs.
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Postby Taro Toporific » Mon Mar 02, 2015 4:44 pm

]http://www.seattle.us.emb-japan.go.jp/about/import_restrictions.html

That embassy page is pretty clear on the subject, isn't it. It even specifies Aderall as a prohibited substance.

It may be an unfortunate confluence of circumstances, but you'd think the girl's mother, a physician, a professional who at least should have a clue about such issues, would do some checking and think ahead before sending something like that to another country. She could have warned her daughter not to send it to Japan.[/quote]

American physicians always advise people to keep prescriptions in their original packaging even if you are only planning to fly on a domestic flight, much less somewhere the prescription is illegal. Even within the US, you can get in a tangle with the TSA for carrying prescriptions in unmarked containers, sheesh. :???:


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Postby Coligny » Mon Mar 02, 2015 4:56 pm

and... don't amerkun prescription drugs comes in bottles with the name of the patient ?

making it doubly idiotic to repackage the stuff...
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Postby wagyl » Mon Mar 02, 2015 5:02 pm

The newspaper article seems to suggest that if you are in the Pacific North West or other slow-paced places you are entitled to skip over everything in parenthesis (Yeah, fuck you!) so the embassy warnings were not effective.

I agree with 6810 that there is more to this story. Why would Nagoya police track her down to a Tokyo restaurant? The transport costs and time involved doesn't warrant it.
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Postby matsuki » Mon Mar 02, 2015 5:04 pm

Taro Toporific wrote:
]http://www.seattle.us.emb-japan.go.jp/about/import_restrictions.html

That embassy page is pretty clear on the subject, isn't it. It even specifies Aderall as a prohibited substance.

It may be an unfortunate confluence of circumstances, but you'd think the girl's mother, a physician, a professional who at least should have a clue about such issues, would do some checking and think ahead before sending something like that to another country. She could have warned her daughter not to send it to Japan.


American physicians always advise people to keep prescriptions in their original packaging even if you are only planning to fly on a domestic flight, much less somewhere the prescription is illegal. Even within the US, you can get in a tangle with the TSA for carrying prescriptions in unmarked containers, sheesh. :???:


Yeah, use and intent aside...she broke the law and is in this mess because of it. (bonus stupidity points for mailing drugs that are illegal in both the origin and destination countries) What I find particularly hilarious is this:

Family members worry that Carrie Russell might buckle under the relentless interrogations - at which she has no lawyer present - and confess to a crime she didn't commit.


Like...selling the drugs on street corners in Roppongi? What is there to confess?

If there is a silver lining to this at all, there will be some more international shaming (and sharrapu! sharrapu!) regarding the whole fallen into a black hole, ~23day detentions without charges, and multiple interrogations without attorney or video. While hardly a gulag, the whole locked up and guilty until proven innocent and interrogation tactics by the police here are fucked. (research is proving that one can actually implant false memories/events via aggressive interrogating)

wagyl wrote:I agree with 6810 that there is more to this story. Why would Nagoya police track her down to a Tokyo restaurant? The transport costs and time involved doesn't warrant it.


I dunno about that...remember that all they tend to care about is how this ends up looking like on paper. Gaijin convicted of illegally importing a fairly sizable amount of illegal drugs. I'm pretty sure their flowchart would send them to do surveillance on her. The gang of detectives in suits also appears to be SOP though the locale is likely a result of not wanting to arrest here during zangyo hours.
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Postby Russell » Mon Mar 02, 2015 8:53 pm

Does she have a university degree?
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:01 pm

It sounds to me like she wanted the prescription, knew it was illegal to import, and tried to hide it.
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Postby Russell » Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:13 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:It sounds to me like she wanted the prescription, knew it was illegal to import, and tried to hide it.

Whatever she was thinking, the cops have no other way than to arrest her if they find out, otherwise they would create a precedent for a free-out-of-jail-card.
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Postby legion » Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:55 pm

chokonen888 wrote:
Family members worry that Carrie Russell might buckle under the relentless interrogations - at which she has no lawyer present - and confess to a crime she didn't commit.


Like...selling the drugs on street corners in Roppongi? What is there to confess?

(research is proving that one can actually implant false memories/events via aggressive interrogating)



Think you answered your own question.

They'll bang her up in the detention house for a while, a million yen lawyer would get her out pretty quickly and she would be allowed to collect her belongings on the way to the airport. If she can't afford an expensive lawyer they will let her stew in the detention house for a couple of months then put her on the plane in handcuffs.

If I had been her parents I would have left out the bit about her being adopted from a central american nation, you can just imagine the prejudices which are going to kick in.
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Postby kurogane » Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:53 am

legion wrote:If I had been her parents I would have left out the bit about her being adopted from a central american nation, you can just imagine the prejudices which are going to kick in.


About being adopted??? :rolleyes:

That whole article read like cultural propaganda Oregon style. As others have mentioned they are loveable imbeciles. All that background is sure to raise the internet sympathy junkies to a frothing rage of piteous sanctimony given how wonderful we now know her to be. Don't forget, it doesn't matter what you do, but who you are, what hurdles you face, and what your intentions were. We could call it the Road to Hell Paving Project.

Hard to condemn her anymore than she already has been, but what a family of cretins; none too speedy of them (yark yark). All she did was knowingly smuggle in heavy drugs, after all. Hopefully all this heartfelt mawkishness will help speed things up.
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Postby matsuki » Tue Mar 03, 2015 4:26 pm

legion wrote:
chokonen888 wrote:
Family members worry that Carrie Russell might buckle under the relentless interrogations - at which she has no lawyer present - and confess to a crime she didn't commit.


Like...selling the drugs on street corners in Roppongi? What is there to confess?

(research is proving that one can actually implant false memories/events via aggressive interrogating)



Think you answered your own question.

They'll bang her up in the detention house for a while, a million yen lawyer would get her out pretty quickly and she would be allowed to collect her belongings on the way to the airport. If she can't afford an expensive lawyer they will let her stew in the detention house for a couple of months then put her on the plane in handcuffs.

If I had been her parents I would have left out the bit about her being adopted from a central american nation, you can just imagine the prejudices which are going to kick in.


Yeah, she is literally a fucked gaijin...even if it was self-inflicted.

kurogane wrote:That whole article read like cultural propaganda Oregon style. As others have mentioned they are loveable imbeciles. All that background is sure to raise the internet sympathy junkies to a frothing rage of piteous sanctimony given how wonderful we now know her to be. Don't forget, it doesn't matter what you do, but who you are, what hurdles you face, and what your intentions were. We could call it the Road to Hell Paving Project.


Well, intentions and all that would come into play during sentencing...she's not coming across as a hardened drug distributing low life, here to profit off others with her crime...or even a junkie, using prescriptions to get/justify her fix....just a girl who thought she was under the radar and was stupid enough to ship her meds between two countries where they are illegal. As to why she was arrested, there's nothing to debate, the meds aren't legal here. Like I said before, if anything good comes from this, it would be more exposure of the ridiculous way she was arrested, detained without charges (or notifying the embassy/parents...though that may have been her call) and the whole solitary confinement/multiple interrogations without an attorney or recording.
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Postby wagyl » Tue Mar 03, 2015 4:32 pm

chokonen888 wrote:detained without ... notifying the embassy/parents...though that may have been her call

Maybe someone with first hand experience can say whether that is unusual or not....
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