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[Screwed-down Hairdo]

:shock:

Mother Kills 9-Year-Old Son For Having Small Penis In Indonesia

An Indonesian woman drowned her nine-year-old son in the bath, claiming she was worried that his "small penis" would affect his prospects for the future, a police spokesman said Thursday.

The 38-year-old woman from the capital Jakarta told police her son had had a small penis prior to being circumcised, but that it appeared to shrink further after the operation, police spokesman Rikwanto, who goes by one name, told AFP.

"She told police investigators that she killed him as he would have a bleak future with his small penis," Rikwanto said.

"She drowned her son in a bathtub filled with water. She then dressed him and laid him on a bed. After that, she went to a nearby police office to report her crime."

Cambodian friend of mine has tig ol bitties, older sister the same...then her mother decided it was trouble to have big boobahs after she had the third girl and "pinched her lil sister nipples daily." The lil sister is rockin' a-cups

That reminds me of here, where it used to be common for mummies to "wash" their sons' willies by sucking them clean...

[matsuki]

I've heard of a few host families where they still practice that

[Samurai_Jerk]

:shock:

Mother Kills 9-Year-Old Son For Having Small Penis In Indonesia

An Indonesian woman drowned her nine-year-old son in the bath, claiming she was worried that his "small penis" would affect his prospects for the future, a police spokesman said Thursday.

The 38-year-old woman from the capital Jakarta told police her son had had a small penis prior to being circumcised, but that it appeared to shrink further after the operation, police spokesman Rikwanto, who goes by one name, told AFP.

"She told police investigators that she killed him as he would have a bleak future with his small penis," Rikwanto said.

"She drowned her son in a bathtub filled with water. She then dressed him and laid him on a bed. After that, she went to a nearby police office to report her crime."

Cambodian friend of mine has tig ol bitties, older sister the same...then her mother decided it was trouble to have big boobahs after she had the third girl and "pinched her lil sister nipples daily." The lil sister is rockin' a-cups

That reminds me of here, where it used to be common for mummies to "wash" their sons' willies by sucking them clean...

I've heard of women here kissing their infant sons' willies because they think they're so cute which I thought was creepy enough but you've just taken it to a different level.

Oh, and choko, I can't imagine that boob pinching really stunted their growth.

[GomiGirl]

I have a two year old son and I would never ever ever ever ever ever do this sort of thing. A Mum sucking her sons dick? That is just WRONG.

Sheesh - talk about a guaranteed future of therapy and fucked up relationships...

I am his Mum and I keep his dick clean by bathing and as soon as he is old enough, he will do this by himself.

Only Daddy gets the "special" attention.

[Samurai_Jerk]

I have a two year old son and I would never ever ever ever ever ever do this sort of thing. A Mum sucking her sons dick? That is just WRONG.

Sheesh - talk about a guaranteed future of therapy and fucked up relationships...

I am his Mum and I keep his dick clean by bathing and as soon as he is old enough, he will do this by himself.

Only Daddy gets the "special" attention.

I remember some issues coming up back in the day in NY because it's apparently normal in some cultures for mothers to massage their sons' penises for various non sexual reasons. People were debating whether or not it should be considered child abuse.

[matsuki]

Oh, and choko, I can't imagine that boob pinching really stunted their growth.

Me either but it was "proof it works" according to my friend. I just felt bad for the lil sister, no boobies and she had her nipples pinched daily while growing up. Did wonders for her self confidence!

A Mum sucking her sons dick? That is just WRONG.

As much as I wish SDH was joking, the amount of mama porn Japan pumps out says otherwise

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

Only Daddy gets the "special" attention.

What, you pinch his nipples to keep his moobs under control?

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

Oh, and choko, I can't imagine that boob pinching really stunted their growth.

Me either but it was "proof it works" according to my friend. I just felt bad for the lil sister, no boobies and she had her nipples pinched daily while growing up. Did wonders for her self confidence!

A Mum sucking her sons dick? That is just WRONG.

As much as I wish SDH was joking, the amount of mama porn Japan pumps out says otherwise

I'm pretty sure we once had a pic of it on FG from an old movie (which even now in Japan is probably an illegal shot). It wasn't intentionally sexual, nor regarded as such by participants, despite the connotations.

[GomiGirl]

Oh, and choko, I can't imagine that boob pinching really stunted their growth.

Me either but it was "proof it works" according to my friend. I just felt bad for the lil sister, no boobies and she had her nipples pinched daily while growing up. Did wonders for her self confidence!

A Mum sucking her sons dick? That is just WRONG.

As much as I wish SDH was joking, the amount of mama porn Japan pumps out says otherwise

I'm pretty sure we once had a pic of it on FG from an old movie (which even now in Japan is probably an illegal shot). It wasn't intentionally sexual, nor regarded as such by participants, despite the connotations.

I think I remember that photo - it was just wrong. That woman was whack and that kid is going to be fucked up royally.

What gets me is that on a toddler or pre-teen, this body part IS non-sexual and is purely for excretion purposes. It is only the adults who turn it sexual and it is the adults who impart their own weirdness onto the kid. As the adult it is our responsibility to, you know, be the adult and separate the bodily functions of a child from our own sicko and selfish perversions.

I think that the true pedo is completely selfish - they don't give a flying fuck about the kid as a person in their own right and they are only thinking about themselves. At least when it is two adults involved, there is at least the possibility that both people are asserting their own rights to a certain extent but a child is not capable of that.

/rant

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

Oh, and choko, I can't imagine that boob pinching really stunted their growth.

Me either but it was "proof it works" according to my friend. I just felt bad for the lil sister, no boobies and she had her nipples pinched daily while growing up. Did wonders for her self confidence!

A Mum sucking her sons dick? That is just WRONG.

As much as I wish SDH was joking, the amount of mama porn Japan pumps out says otherwise

I'm pretty sure we once had a pic of it on FG from an old movie (which even now in Japan is probably an illegal shot). It wasn't intentionally sexual, nor regarded as such by participants, despite the connotations.

I think I remember that photo - it was just wrong. That woman was whack and that kid is going to be fucked up royally.

What gets me is that on a toddler or pre-teen, this body part IS non-sexual and is purely for excretion purposes. It is only the adults who turn it sexual and it is the adults who impart their own weirdness onto the kid. As the adult it is our responsibility to, you know, be the adult and separate the bodily functions of a child from our own sicko and selfish perversions.

I think that the true pedo is completely selfish - they don't give a flying fuck about the kid as a person in their own right and they are only thinking about themselves. At least when it is two adults involved, there is at least the possibility that both people are asserting their own rights to a certain extent but a child is not capable of that.

/rant

Our new Pope is right behind you on that one...

[Coligny]

What gets me is that on a toddler or pre-teen, this body part IS non-sexual and is purely for excretion purposes. It is only the adults who turn it sexual and it is the adults who impart their own weirdness onto the kid. As the adult it is our responsibility to, you know, be the adult and separate the bodily functions of a child from our own sicko and selfish perversions.

Can I do the "It's da most stupidestest thing I read on the interwab" schtick or shall I detail ? ok, rethorical question it was...

Let me cut short in saying that you should read a bit on early development on child psychology, once again Dolto being the reference on this matter. You might discover that, nature, in a bit of a Darwinian type update... Do a bit like for pilot training... You don't get the keys of a new plane before thinking a lot aboot it before... Kids have boners befor the start of spermatogenesis...
There is sexualisation of the body from an early age, while it is not the same level or kind as what adult consider/enjoy as externalisation of sexuality, it is present. And ignoring it is the same recipe for disaster as abusing it (hello pedopriest... run for the hill, hunting season is not over)

You are basically taking a shit on Freud an the oedipus complex theory... with unbacked absolutes and sounding like a "dear Deirdre" column advice...

I know, you are a big smart girl who write dictionnary for a living, which should make me humble and shit...
But coming from a place where the dictionnary is a serious business ruled by these guys...

academie-francaise2.jpg

*
It just doesn't do it for me (and they all have fooking swords as part of their uniforms)...

* Yea for Alain Decaux to look this young it has to be a pretty old picture, But not older than 95 since I think I recognise Fumaroli on the first line.

Moar:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oedipus_complex
and in your case, after your statements, hillariously moar:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penis_envy

/Case closed...

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

Coligny, pure Freudian theory is largely ignored in psychotherapy now, though modern methods are often derivative in some way of him. Oedipal complex and penis envy are both pretty much discredited, though I personally am inclined to believe they are accurate, but I'm untrained in the field other than being a right fucken nutter.

[yanpa]

Oh, and choko, I can't imagine that boob pinching really stunted their growth.

Me either but it was "proof it works" according to my friend. I just felt bad for the lil sister, no boobies and she had her nipples pinched daily while growing up. Did wonders for her self confidence!

A Mum sucking her sons dick? That is just WRONG.

As much as I wish SDH was joking, the amount of mama porn Japan pumps out says otherwise

I'm pretty sure we once had a pic of it on FG from an old movie (which even now in Japan is probably an illegal shot). It wasn't intentionally sexual, nor regarded as such by participants, despite the connotations.

I think I remember that photo - it was just wrong. That woman was whack and that kid is going to be fucked up royally.

This is presumably where she gets her lips done:

mother-lip-daikanyama.jpg

Mother Lip, Daikanyama

I swear this country is trolling us

[Russell]

Back on topic.

First I commend the OP for leaving the decision of circumcision to his son.
Marriage, suicide, and mutilation are things that are deeply personal, so the parents should have no say in it, though their advice can be helpful.

In my elementary school days I remember there was a boy who was circumcised, and the others in the locker room were quite surprised about it, so it used to be very rare in the Netherlands, where this took place. Turns out he was circumcised for medical reasons (happens too). Nowadays, the Dutch medical world has professional reasons against circumcision, though that appears controversial with some people.

The hygiene argument for circumcision is complete BS. When is the last time there was an outbreak of dirty foreskin disease? And after all, from a certain age your son will have trouble keeping his hands off his dinghy when under the shower, so there is a natural mechanism to keep it clean. Or, as the Dutch say:

A wank a day
Keeps the smegma at bay

(OK, I made that one up)

Of course, sometimes amputation helps to keep body parts clean. There is this guy who never gets dirty hands, because he doesn't have them. And he can still play piano, though his technique has suffered a bit.

Then, there is the sex. According to some old wife's tale, sex with foreskin attached is better, though most seasoned women will be able to tell you that more important is the man / woman attached to the penis in question.

Anyway, take it easy. Your son will go through a journey numerous Europeans and Japanese have experienced, and they have only gotten the better of it.

[Russell]

Our new Pope is right behind you on that one...

Anyone know why they didn't make this guy the new pope?!?

Edit: Renewed YT link, because old one became empty.

[Taro Toporific]

I'm pretty sure we once had a pic of it on FG from an old movie (which even now in Japan is probably an illegal shot). It wasn't intentionally sexual, nor regarded as such by participants, despite the connotations.

Tree Without Leaves (1986)
Rakuyôju (original title)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091823/

Tree-Without-Leaves.jpg

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

I'm pretty sure we once had a pic of it on FG from an old movie (which even now in Japan is probably an illegal shot). It wasn't intentionally sexual, nor regarded as such by participants, despite the connotations.

Tree Without Leaves (1986)
Rakuyôju (original title)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091823/

Tree-Without-Leaves.jpg

I'm pretty sure if I saw this tree, I'd leave...

BTW, Taro, thanks for posting the photo that revolts us!!!!

[Coligny]

BTW, Taro, thanks for posting the photo that revolts us!!!!

don't...

encourage...

him...

(/running for cover)

[GomiGirl]

I'm pretty sure we once had a pic of it on FG from an old movie (which even now in Japan is probably an illegal shot). It wasn't intentionally sexual, nor regarded as such by participants, despite the connotations.

Tree Without Leaves (1986)
Rakuyôju (original title)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091823/

Tree-Without-Leaves.jpg

I'm pretty sure if I saw this tree, I'd leave...

Hall of fame groaner.... さむいいいいいいい〜

[matsuki]

holy shit...they actually included this "tradition" in film?

[Russell]

Babies' herpes linked to circumcision practice

Two more infants have contracted the herpes virus after undergoing an ultra-Orthodox Jewish type of circumcision, which has been linked to the spread of the potentially deadly virus to newborn boys, according to the New York City Health Department.

In the ritual, known as metzitzah b'peh, after removing the foreskin of the penis the person performing the procedure places his mouth briefly over the wound, sucking a small amount of blood out, which is discarded. Antibacterial ointment is applied and the wound is bandaged. The health department says the procedure is dangerous because the contact with the mouth could transmit diseases such as herpes.

Most adults are infected with the herpes simplex virus type 1, and while they may have no symptoms, the virus may be present in their saliva, according to the health department. (It is different from herpes simplex virus type 2, which is usually transmitted sexually.)

"While HSV-1 in adults can cause the common cold sore, HSV-1 infection in newborns is very serious," a department statement says.

Since 2000, there have been 13 reports in New York City of infants contracting HSV-1, two of whom died from the virus. The health department reported that an estimated 20,493 infants in New York City were exposed to the practice in that period.

In the most recent case, the infant developed a fever seven days after circumcision and vesicular lesions the following day, according to a press release from the city health department. Seventy percent of neonatal herpes cases show lesions and only 40% produce a fever.

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[IparryU]

holy shit...they actually included this "tradition" in film?

wow... i wonder how much this movie sells in Japan with this "tradition" in it...

[Samurai_Jerk]

Babies' herpes linked to circumcision practice

Two more infants have contracted the herpes virus after undergoing an ultra-Orthodox Jewish type of circumcision, which has been linked to the spread of the potentially deadly virus to newborn boys, according to the New York City Health Department.

In the ritual, known as metzitzah b'peh, after removing the foreskin of the penis the person performing the procedure places his mouth briefly over the wound, sucking a small amount of blood out, which is discarded. Antibacterial ointment is applied and the wound is bandaged. The health department says the procedure is dangerous because the contact with the mouth could transmit diseases such as herpes.

Most adults are infected with the herpes simplex virus type 1, and while they may have no symptoms, the virus may be present in their saliva, according to the health department. (It is different from herpes simplex virus type 2, which is usually transmitted sexually.)

"While HSV-1 in adults can cause the common cold sore, HSV-1 infection in newborns is very serious," a department statement says.

Since 2000, there have been 13 reports in New York City of infants contracting HSV-1, two of whom died from the virus. The health department reported that an estimated 20,493 infants in New York City were exposed to the practice in that period.

In the most recent case, the infant developed a fever seven days after circumcision and vesicular lesions the following day, according to a press release from the city health department. Seventy percent of neonatal herpes cases show lesions and only 40% produce a fever.

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As least Catholic priests have the decently to leave your penis intact before sucking it.

[American Oyaji]

When my oldest was an infant, my wife's aunt (only about 10 years older than we were) made the comment while my wife was changing his diaper that his chinko was so cute she wanted to eat it. I don't think she ever saw a circumcisized penis before.

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

don't think she ever saw a circumcisized penis before.

You sure it wasn't something else she'd never seen? Y'know, all that, "try it once and you'll never go back" stuff...

[American Oyaji]

don't think she ever saw a circumcisized penis before.

You sure it wasn't something else she'd never seen? Y'know, all that, "try it once and you'll never go back" stuff...

Little brown baby penis?

[matsuki]

Babies' herpes linked to circumcision practice

Two more infants have contracted the herpes virus after undergoing an ultra-Orthodox Jewish type of circumcision, which has been linked to the spread of the potentially deadly virus to newborn boys, according to the New York City Health Department.

In the ritual, known as metzitzah b'peh, after removing the foreskin of the penis the person performing the procedure places his mouth briefly over the wound, sucking a small amount of blood out, which is discarded. Antibacterial ointment is applied and the wound is bandaged. The health department says the procedure is dangerous because the contact with the mouth could transmit diseases such as herpes.

Most adults are infected with the herpes simplex virus type 1, and while they may have no symptoms, the virus may be present in their saliva, according to the health department. (It is different from herpes simplex virus type 2, which is usually transmitted sexually.)

"While HSV-1 in adults can cause the common cold sore, HSV-1 infection in newborns is very serious," a department statement says.

Since 2000, there have been 13 reports in New York City of infants contracting HSV-1, two of whom died from the virus. The health department reported that an estimated 20,493 infants in New York City were exposed to the practice in that period.

In the most recent case, the infant developed a fever seven days after circumcision and vesicular lesions the following day, according to a press release from the city health department. Seventy percent of neonatal herpes cases show lesions and only 40% produce a fever.

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The fuck is with all these infant penis sucking traditions?

[Russell]

Foreskin clip joints take unwary males for a ride

More males in Japan are undergoing esthetic surgical procedures to improve their appearance or boost their self esteem. But with these have come a variety of problems, particularly from doctors who pad their estimates tenfold, to the equivalent of what a wage-earner in his early twenties might take home in an entire year.

Yukan Fuji (Sept 9) reports that in June of this year, a group of Osaka attorneys, after setting up a telephone hotline to field complaints, became aware of how widespread the matter—particularly for “delicate” male problems, for whom the victims feel they have nowhere else to air their concerns—has become.

“From 10 years ago, we’ve been receiving a stream of complaints from victimized patients,” says Hirohiko Ozaki, a member of the group of Osaka attorneys.

Most of these patients turned to legal help after undergoing circumcisions.

Only in a small number of cases are circumcisions necessary for medical reasons, and such individuals can make use of their national health insurance to have the procedure done inexpensively. But rather than provide such explanations, unethical dealers in the foreskin removal trade might tell them, “Your circulation is being constricted” or “There’s a chance you’ll develop cancer.” And rather than giving them, say, a week’s time to think things over or obtain a second opinion, push them to come to an immediate decision to proceed.

The clinics advertise such services for about 100,000 yen in magazine ads or on the Internet. But this is only to get the patient in the door. Once their manhood is about to go under the surgeon’s scalpel, the doctors strongly urge them to agree to “optional” procedures, such as injections of collagen. As the doctors pile on the charges while ratcheting up the fear, some patients find themselves swindled to the tune of 1 million yen or more.

“Collagen is absorbed by the body after a brief duration, so such injections don’t have any longlasting effect,” says attorney Ozaki. “What’s more, the doctors will say that before injecting it, they must first perform an allergy test.

“And when they warn a patient that they ‘won’t appear attractive to women’ or ‘might develop cancer,’ we want these victims to know they’re being lied to.”

Complaints to the Consumer Affairs Center of Japan regarding esthetic surgery on males have been running at the rate of 240 to 290 cases a year for the past five years. Some 70% to 80% of these claims involve circumcisions, and the center’s home page contains advisory warnings about unethical practices.

One individual, while still a minor, saw an ad offering circumcisions for 80,000 to 100,000 yen on the clinic’s website, but was caught with his pants down—literally in this case—when the doctor warned him of possible complications from procedures that cut corners on costs (so to speak) and wound up getting billed 800,000 yen, to be paid in installments.

When the attorney was shown the credit contract, he arranged for the youth to visit a urologist, who said that the same procedure could have been performed under the national insurance scheme. With the patient paying 30% of total charges, it would have cost him about 6,000 yen.

The center pressured the doctor to accept the 30,000 yen deposit the youth had already paid and waive the remaining balance.

Ozaki says that Japan has adopted stricter professional guidelines regarding such practices, with tougher new penalties to discourage violators.

A worker at the Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare told Yukan Fuji that they are currently in the process of evaluating the effectiveness of the revised regulations. Meanwhile, to avoid becoming a victim, Ozaki advises anyone in need of medical advice concerning their “delicate” problem to first see a qualified urologist to determine if there a problem really exists, and if there is, whether or not it can be treated at reasonable cost under the health insurance scheme.

Link

Full article, because I dunno where to cut it.

[J.A.F.O]

There was local Rabbi in the neighborhood back home (Also an M.D.) charged like 100 bucks. That was some 20 years ago... I'm sure the price goes up as "things" become (Ahem) Inflated...

[Taro Toporific]

Foreskin clip joints take unwary males for a ride

Japanese Phimosis phobia cuts across all of society. New Japanese mothers are instructed on how to repeatedly "retract" the foreskin of their young boys so they will not suffer the horrors genital binding and phimosis-induced insanity.

Refer to the Mainichi Daily News (September 21, 2005): Peeling back the facts on the cruelest cut of all