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Re: Clearing land

Postby Wage Slave » Sat Jun 07, 2014 3:00 pm

chokonen888 wrote:37yen jeebus! No wonder all the farmers are trying to cash in now.

So let me take a step back here...say I'm selling the power now for 37yen a KWh and not using much of it, the system will likely pay itself off in less time than in a home that it's used daily. Say the gov reduce the forced cost from 37 to 22 or even down to 14 in 5 years. (reasonably safe guess if they're promising 10 now?) If you've already paid off the system by then, while you may not be raking in the 37yen a KWh anymore, you've benefited and will continue to do so for the life of the setup, yes? Even if they stop buying elec, you don't need to stay connected to keep saving, just keep what is needed of your setup to meet your demand and sell off any additional panels/components. (I guess my point here is it's only risky if you're trying to start some sort of solarfarm based on the long term continuation of the current artificial pricing...if the goal is self sufficiency and/or just knocking down your elec. bill, taking advantage of the current situation makes sense)


The big problem though is that you are required to fork out a whopping great chunk of money up front. You might save yourself a bit of money over 15 years or so. But you might not if the rules are changed or if you have to/want to sell up or rent the property or if something goes wrong with the panels.

I reckon there are better investments out there if you are prepared to take that sort of risk and can commit to 15 years. They would also often allow early exit if you so choose.
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Re: Clearing land

Postby Russell » Sat Jun 07, 2014 3:17 pm

wagyl wrote:
chokonen888 wrote:37yen jeebus! No wonder all the farmers are trying to cash in now.


Farmers are getting 32 yen by the way. What I still can't get my head around is that these farmers are willing to put productive agricultural land out of action for this, but they leave the roofs of their farm buildings to go to waste.

Some crops actually do better if they do not get the full radiation from the sun.

The Takazawas, who grow taro, sweet potato, pumpkin, blueberry and leafy vegetables, said yields for some of the plants increased under the shelter of the panels because the soil retained more moisture.

Their property 50 kilometres from Tokyo also includes rice paddies, which Takazawa said may be less suitable to solar farming. The family is considering turning them into orchards and buying more panels, he said.

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Russell wrote:Now, if one is really smart, one installs fake solar panels and sells the regular 22 yen / kWh electricity back to the net for 37 yen / kWh as if it were solar energy.

:shock:

Actually, I wonder whether someone already got that idea before me...

Unfortunately, you would need a way to store that energy before sending it back: giant capacitors??? Simultaneous power in both directions registers as a zero consumption, but also zero supply.

There is a way, but since this is a public forum, I will not post it here. I would not be surprised if some Yakuza types are already doing it though...
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Re: Clearing land

Postby wagyl » Sat Jun 07, 2014 3:31 pm

Russell wrote:
wagyl wrote:
chokonen888 wrote:37yen jeebus! No wonder all the farmers are trying to cash in now.


Farmers are getting 32 yen by the way. What I still can't get my head around is that these farmers are willing to put productive agricultural land out of action for this, but they leave the roofs of their farm buildings to go to waste.

Some crops actually do better if they do not get the full radiation from the sun.

The Takazawas, who grow taro, sweet potato, pumpkin, blueberry and leafy vegetables, said yields for some of the plants increased under the shelter of the panels because the soil retained more moisture.

Their property 50 kilometres from Tokyo also includes rice paddies, which Takazawa said may be less suitable to solar farming. The family is considering turning them into orchards and buying more panels, he said.

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Ahh, solar sharing. Interestingly, while that is something I can see has benefits, every example I have seen looks like this or this. Farmers are removing their land from registration as agricultural.
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Re: Clearing land

Postby Russell » Sat Jun 07, 2014 3:44 pm

wagyl wrote:Farmers are removing their land from registration as agricultural.

Isn't that great?

That makes it more likely that eventually Japan will join TPP...

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Re: Clearing land

Postby Coligny » Sat Jun 07, 2014 5:23 pm

Russell wrote:There is a way, but since this is a public forum, I will not post it here. I would not be surprised if some Yakuza types are already doing it though...



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Re: Clearing land

Postby matsuki » Mon Jun 16, 2014 4:02 pm

wagyl wrote:お疲れ!

With the rain forecast for next week, it will be back to jungle in no time!


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Jungle not as resiliant as I thought...or we did a better job than I'm giving credit for. Saaaaaa, here we go again!
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Re: Clearing land

Postby yanpa » Sat Jul 05, 2014 2:43 pm

For next time, how about one of these?

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Re: Clearing land

Postby matsuki » Mon Jul 07, 2014 9:34 pm

I'd kill for one of those....hell, I'd kill with one of those!! Let's see the J-cops try to measure that splatter!!!
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Re: Clearing land

Postby Russell » Wed Oct 01, 2014 10:03 am

Wage Slave wrote:
chokonen888 wrote:37yen jeebus! No wonder all the farmers are trying to cash in now.

So let me take a step back here...say I'm selling the power now for 37yen a KWh and not using much of it, the system will likely pay itself off in less time than in a home that it's used daily. Say the gov reduce the forced cost from 37 to 22 or even down to 14 in 5 years. (reasonably safe guess if they're promising 10 now?) If you've already paid off the system by then, while you may not be raking in the 37yen a KWh anymore, you've benefited and will continue to do so for the life of the setup, yes? Even if they stop buying elec, you don't need to stay connected to keep saving, just keep what is needed of your setup to meet your demand and sell off any additional panels/components. (I guess my point here is it's only risky if you're trying to start some sort of solarfarm based on the long term continuation of the current artificial pricing...if the goal is self sufficiency and/or just knocking down your elec. bill, taking advantage of the current situation makes sense)


The big problem though is that you are required to fork out a whopping great chunk of money up front. You might save yourself a bit of money over 15 years or so. But you might not if the rules are changed or if you have to/want to sell up or rent the property or if something goes wrong with the panels.

That didn't take too long...
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Re: Clearing land

Postby matsuki » Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:35 pm

dun dun dun....but seems like if you get locked in before changes are made, you might be set?
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Re: Clearing land

Postby Wage Slave » Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:52 pm

Maybe ... and maybe householders will get preferential treatment, for now. But the bottom line is that the price is set way above the true market price and in fact the true market price would often be zero from the power companies point of view.

That would be fine if the power companies were rolling in it but they are pleading poverty with some cause. A vast fortune sunk into nuclear power generation that is now producing nothing and having to buy massively more fossil fuels at historically high prices to compensate for the lost capacity.

The only way the system can remain viable is if the prices paid by consumers are ramped up even faster and further than they are being already. And that won't be popular to say the least - and could arguably cause economic damage.

If you install solar capacity you are paying out up front and hoping that an artificial system that looks increasingly unsustainable will survive at least 10 years to get your money back. I think I'd rather pick a different investment - and one I can cash in if I wish.
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Re: Clearing land

Postby matsuki » Wed Oct 01, 2014 1:29 pm

If the Yen gets any more devalued, pretty soon Japan will be welcoming their new Chinese overlords.
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Re: Clearing land

Postby matsuki » Fri Nov 07, 2014 6:39 pm

Just bought a boom truck (think truck with a big ass crane on the back) and while I sort that non-shaken paperwork out, I figured it was time to make the land officially mine now...does anyone have any advice as to how to handle changing the title and what costs are involved? (Is it better to receive it as a gift or can it be"sold to me for 10円?) It's in the lemur's father's name right now. Lemur says I probably only need to pay 贈与税? If it gets to detailed, can continue the discussion behind the kraken's curtain.
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Re: Clearing land

Postby wagyl » Fri Nov 07, 2014 6:51 pm

Be aware that owning an asset has local government tax (and often health insurance rates) implications. That might encourage you to transfer to your own name, or might not. Granted, I don't think you plan to register in that municipality and health insurance rates will not be a concern for you. Other than that, I defer to those here who have actually bought land, especially interfamily (if there are any).
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Re: Clearing land

Postby matsuki » Fri Nov 07, 2014 7:06 pm

wagyl wrote:Be aware that owning an asset has local government tax (and often health insurance rates) implications. That might encourage you to transfer to your own name, or might not. Granted, I don't think you plan to register in that municipality and health insurance rates will not be a concern for you. Other than that, I defer to those here who have actually bought land, especially interfamily (if there are any).


The boss here says inaka of inaka land is worthless so it shouldn't affect me much (though may help with applying for a PR visa?) I'm still registered in Toe-kee-oh so you're right about not registering in that municipality. The place is not intended to ever be a permanent residence, just a rental and vacation home. (but nothing it built right now so it's basically just a plot of land)
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Re: Clearing land

Postby wagyl » Fri Nov 07, 2014 7:23 pm

Yes while the asset is of low value and is unlikely to be a large tax burden, you should also be aware that valuations for tax purposes have no relation to real world valuations, and depending on the value previously given to the use of the land (for example forestry land) can be higher than real world current values.
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Re: Clearing land

Postby matsuki » Fri Nov 07, 2014 7:26 pm

Yeah, and I'm guess that's what they base the tax on here...but it's not zoned as residential, farmland or any of the normal designations so I'm clueless as to what they may claim.
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Re: Clearing land

Postby Russell » Fri Nov 07, 2014 8:08 pm

If it's owned by your father-in-law, he can also show you the plot's tax bill for this year. Normally the bill comes in January, but it can be paid in terms (at least that is in my city).
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Re: Clearing land

Postby matsuki » Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:51 am

Russell wrote:If it's owned by your father-in-law, he can also show you the plot's tax bill for this year. Normally the bill comes in January, but it can be paid in terms (at least that is in my city).


I think he said something like 3,000 yen (like I said, the j-gov considers the land worthless)
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Re: Clearing land

Postby matsuki » Thu May 07, 2015 4:36 pm

So I finally got everything in my name, massive 5,100yen tax LOL

BUT!!!

...the area figures on the documents are screwy, according to the survey maps I have. (which are about 40yrs old....recent when you consider many people are still using meji era maps in that area) The plot numbers seem to be right but the area associated with each is nothing like what I have and actually comes out to a few hundred extra m². Any advice on getting access to whatever data/maps the shiyakusho is using?

The other screwy thing is one random smaller plot that's in the mix of deeds...it's on the opposite side of that giant white tube and the straight out of Endor looking facility on top. I hiked up the side trail up to the facility....and the trail actually runs through part of that plot....and there is some sort of cement channel on the plot, with some quite recently laid tarp, that appears to be being used and directed down to the power facility. Considering I don' have much use for it and they seem to be helping themselves to it....do I have and chance in hell at pushing the power co to buy the plot from me and scoring some funding for my log project?
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Re: Clearing land

Postby Coligny » Thu May 07, 2015 5:42 pm

Put a flag on the land (i recommend the Jolly Roger) and shoot anybody that get anywhere near.
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Re: Clearing land

Postby matsuki » Thu May 07, 2015 6:00 pm

Coligny wrote:Put a flag on the land (i recommend the Jolly Roger) and shoot anybody that get anywhere near.


How about:

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Re: Clearing land

Postby Coligny » Thu May 07, 2015 7:12 pm

He can't claim it as his.

Last time i had illegal parking issue with the totoya estima oyaji, long time ago... And he tried the bullshit line "is not your house, your name is not [...]" (which seriously put him on my kill list) i had kitteh on the window looking down and flag at the door... To which i pointed... "My cat my flag, my house, my parking and you, fuck off" (in jap was moar like 'watashi no [.../.../...], anata: kiete') which despite not going for the win in a rap battle was enough to shut him up... (*)

Sooo... 'Murican flag, he can claim, jolly roger... Also can claim... Any Tribe cursed cemetery marker is good too... DPRK... it's your fixation only...


(*) patting mahself on the back as this effing' street now just have one regularily illegally parked car instead of being near clogged full of parked cars... I could get rid of it, but only on the 'daily use of the street as parking space' would require to take daily picture and make a case file... Fck it...
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Re: Clearing land

Postby Mike Oxlong » Thu May 07, 2015 10:07 pm

This is what my people are using as of late...

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Re: Clearing land

Postby Coligny » Thu May 07, 2015 11:28 pm

Gunna need sum'splanashiunz...
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Re: Clearing land

Postby matsuki » Fri May 08, 2015 7:49 am

Coligny - the real asshole route would be to fence it in and burn or remove all their "abandoned" shit. Micro Dam the water and suddenly they got no flow.

Mike Oxlong wrote:This is what my people are using as of late...


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Re: Clearing land

Postby Coligny » Fri May 08, 2015 9:09 am

chokonen888 wrote:Coligny - the real asshole route would be to fence it in and burn or remove all their "abandoned" shit. Micro Dam the water and suddenly they got no flow.

?


You might want to check the legality of this first...

(Not that shooting was exactly brilliant either...)
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Re: Clearing land

Postby matsuki » Fri May 08, 2015 9:49 am

Coligny wrote:
chokonen888 wrote:Coligny - the real asshole route would be to fence it in and burn or remove all their "abandoned" shit. Micro Dam the water and suddenly they got no flow.

?


You might want to check the legality of this first...

(Not that shooting was exactly brilliant either...)


Well...all I really need to do is remove those tarps and it will naturally clog up.
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Re: Clearing land

Postby Coligny » Fri May 08, 2015 10:04 am

Soo.. Let's the mayhem begin and make new friends at the same time...
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Re: Clearing land

Postby matsuki » Fri May 08, 2015 1:22 pm

Coligny wrote:Soo.. Let's the mayhem begin and make new friends at the same time...


Well...the goal is to get some money and get rid of it so better to let them make an offer on the plot of land before going full asshole on them.
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