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Postby Bucky » Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:46 am

I don't know about the costs in Japan, but it has to be higher in Japan given the exchange rate, doesn't it. I have had some of my employees get braces here in the US and then return to Japan. The orthodontist here (Seattle) was able to refer them to a practitioner in Japan.
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Postby GomiGirl » Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:51 am

Are you going to have national health insurance when you are in Japan? If so, then the dental work will be hella cheap compared to the US.

I don't have national health but private insurance here and often I don't bother claiming for dental work as it really cheap. I just pay cash. But that is just for routine checks and cleaning. Don't know about braces or anything more serious than that. Husband said that he had a crown fitted here in Japan that was really cheap compared to the cost back home in Australia.

So to not answer your question... it really depends.
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Postby Coligny » Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:02 am

For all my dental work here... i have to think aboo keeping coins to pay for the dentist... crown was on the 3000 range if i remember well... but usual care last visits were 190, 200 and 250 yens, smile from the hot nurse inclooded...
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Postby Russell » Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:35 am

General costs for dentists in Japan are low, but braces are not covered by National Health Insurance. Dentists can basically charge what they want. Some dentists are priced reasonably, others very expensive. Same applies for the periodical adjustments of braces.

If I were you I would get myself a brace in your own country, because it may take some time before you find yourself a dentist in Japan that is satisfactory price / quality-wise. And then there is of course also the language barrier. At the very least discuss it with your dentist at home and ask him whether he would be able to refer you to a dentist in Japan for regular check-ups.
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:52 pm

bealuct wrote:With and W/O insurance... roughly how much for braces for installation and maintenance? :D

EDIT: I don't have insurance here in the US, debating on whether or not to get the gear installed before I go or wait till I'm in Tokyo.... off-chance for UNIVERSITY FUNDED free installations... need to get on that.... also.... I couldn't find anything on whether or not it would be easy for the J-Dentists to to the routine checkups and what not if I get me installation in the states... anyone here a dentist? :D


As Russel already pointed out, braces (and other cosmetic dentistry) are NOT covered by national insurance. Also, look around at the average Japanese person's teeth and ask yourself if you really want to get dental work done here. There are some great dentists here but most are horrible and the good ones can be very expensive.

GomiGirl wrote:If so, then the dental work will be hella cheap compared to the US.


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Postby matsuki » Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:19 am

Samurai_Jerk wrote:You been hanging out in Oakland?


LOL, I remember when that Nor-Cal fad started...and how I wish it would end!
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Postby Iraira » Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:42 am

chokonen888 wrote:LOL, I remember when that Nor-Cal fad started...and how I wish it would end!


Please, show some respect, it's "NoCal" (anywhere north of the Grapevine (specifically Gorman), although some would say anything north of Mulholland Drive...go home, val), "SoCal", and "LoCal".
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:52 am

chokonen888 wrote:LOL, I remember when that Nor-Cal fad started...and how I wish it would end!


Maybe "hella" finally made its way into the Aussie lingo or maybe GG is a Too Short and Pharcyde fan.
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Postby 2triky » Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:57 am

Samurai_Jerk wrote:Maybe "hella" finally made its way into the Aussie lingo or maybe GG is a Too Short and Pharcyde fan.



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Postby matsuki » Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:34 am

Iraira wrote:Please, show some respect, it's "NoCal" (anywhere north of the Grapevine (specifically Gorman), although some would say anything north of Mulholland Drive...go home, val), "SoCal", and "LoCal".


I just got hella schooled by Iraira....

So what do we call Riverside?
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Postby 2triky » Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:51 am

chokonen888 wrote:I just got hella schooled by Iraira....

So what do we call Riverside?
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Fuck Riverside. On tha real. <rhetorical question notwithstanding>
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Postby sublight » Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:47 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:As Russel already pointed out, braces (and other cosmetic dentistry) are NOT covered by national insurance. Also, look around at the average Japanese person's teeth and ask yourself if you really want to get dental work done here. There are some great dentists here but most are horrible and the good ones can be very expensive.


And of course, like many other things in Japan, the horrible ones can also be very expensive. Price seems to be more a function of location, decor, and ad budget, wholly independent of competence or quality of service.

My gut reaction would be to avoid the places that seem to be 'gaijin clinics' (advertising in Metropolis, for example), but that's mainly because I nearly got killed by a pair of incompetent fuckwits from the Tokyo Medical Clinic. Orthodonture may be a different case.
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Postby matsuki » Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:54 pm

2triky wrote:Fuck Riverside. On tha real. <rhetorical question notwithstanding>


I'm guessing you're no fan of the Corona Bros with their Bro trucks
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Fri Nov 04, 2011 4:32 pm

sublight wrote:And of course, like many other things in Japan, the horrible ones can also be very expensive. Price seems to be more a function of location, decor, and ad budget, wholly independent of competence or quality of service.


The Tokyo Midtown Clinic dentists are a good example of that.
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Postby gaijinpunch » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:11 am

There's a guy in Moto Azabu, near Tokyo Tower. Has a generic name... International Dental Clinic or something. The Dr. is Entatsu. He is good, but will run you about 18,000 yen for a cleaning. Too rich for my blood. Getting another one done when I go back to America (Fuck Yeah).
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Postby Coligny » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:52 am

gaijinpunch wrote:There's a guy in Moto Azabu, near Tokyo Tower. Has a generic name... International Dental Clinic or something. The Dr. is Entatsu. He is good, but will run you about 18,000 yen for a cleaning. Too rich for my blood. Getting another one done when I go back to America (Fuck Yeah).


WTF !? it come with happy ending I hope... at least 6 times more than I remember paying...
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Postby Greji » Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:17 pm

gaijinpunch wrote:There's a guy in Moto Azabu, near Tokyo Tower. Has a generic name... International Dental Clinic or something. The Dr. is Entatsu. He is good, but will run you about 18,000 yen for a cleaning. Too rich for my blood. Getting another one done when I go back to America (Fuck Yeah).

I just mail my teeth to my dentist for cleaning....
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Postby Coligny » Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:20 pm

Greji wrote:I just mail my teeth to my dentist for cleaning....
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When did you stop putting them in the dish washer ?
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Postby gaijinpunch » Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:11 pm

Coligny wrote:WTF !? it come with happy ending I hope... at least 6 times more than I remember paying...


Maybe my teeth were extra dirty. He might have dropped his prices though, now that the economy has gone even further in the shitter and fewer and fewer whities are in the gaijin ghetto.
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Postby IparryU » Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:11 pm

Iraira wrote:Please, show some respect, it's "NoCal" (anywhere north of the Grapevine (specifically Gorman), although some would say anything north of Mulholland Drive...go home, val), "SoCal", and "LoCal".

I always thought it was NorCal... that is what we always said...

not to mention all the cloths that say NorCal...
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Re: Japan and Dentists?

Postby kate_3 » Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:18 pm

Everyone needs a healthy smile with a healthy body. A healthy mouth helps to get rid of much kind of diseases.
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Postby Russell » Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:09 pm

kate_3 wrote:Everyone needs a healthy smile with a healthy body. A healthy mouth helps to get rid of much kind of diseases.
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Well Kate, if you are so desperate for patients that you feel it necessary to post here on a Japan-based forum called Fucked Gaijin, I figure that your quality of service is not even on par with what can be obtained in the local market...
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Postby Coligny » Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:43 pm

Having fun with the bots Russel ?
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Postby Russell » Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:03 pm

Coligny wrote:Having fun with the bots Russel ?

Yep, and to increase the probability that some human of flesh and blood behind the bot visits FG, I clicked on the link.
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Postby TentacleOfDoom » Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:49 pm

No bot I suspect, but a Mechanical Turdk or something of that ilk.

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Postby yanpa » Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:46 am

To clarify: the Tentacled One's intent is that searches for teeth whitening in Barnegat, NJ will for evermore lead to this auspiscious site with a strong affinity for dental improvements and general oral hygiene especially as they relate to Barnegat, New Jersey (wherever that may be; my personal mental association between dental work and the state of New Jersey comes from watching "The Sopranos", where in at least one episode Tony Soprano is responsible for creating a whole lot of work for a dental implant specialist, though come to think of it the victim may have been based in New York).
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Postby gaijinpunch » Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:24 am

For what it's worth, I went back to Dr. Entatsu. He (or his assistant, actually) does probably a better job than I can remember in the states, so I'm quite happy. It runs about double what I'd pay for a cleaning in America, so yeah, I'm not too bothered. Not having to go 4 fucking times to get all teeth cleaned is worth the dough to me.
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Postby matsuki » Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:43 pm

gaijinpunch wrote: It runs about double what I'd pay for a cleaning in America, so yeah, I'm not too bothered.


How so? I was paying $70~$100 for cleaning in LA. (Health insurance doesn't cover dental) with is on par with what they charge here, but then with insurance coverage we pay 2500~3500??
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Postby Wibble » Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:02 pm

chokonen888 wrote:
gaijinpunch wrote: It runs about double what I'd pay for a cleaning in America, so yeah, I'm not too bothered.


How so? I was paying $70~$100 for cleaning in LA. (Health insurance doesn't cover dental) with is on par with what they charge here, but then with insurance coverage we pay 2500~3500??


Only basic cleaning is covered under insurance, airflow cleaning, fluoride treatment etc are usually only private, but even so would be less than 10,000 full price.
Basic clean and polish on insurance could be as low as 1500.
But don't forget some Japan dentists try to scam you for separate visits for top and bottom cleaning, which doubles the price.
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Postby matsuki » Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:10 pm

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gaijinpunch wrote: It runs about double what I'd pay for a cleaning in America, so yeah, I'm not too bothered.


How so? I was paying $70~$100 for cleaning in LA. (Health insurance doesn't cover dental) with is on par with what they charge here, but then with insurance coverage we pay 2500~3500??


Only basic cleaning is covered under insurance, airflow cleaning, fluoride treatment etc are usually only private, but even so would be less than 10,000 full price.
Basic clean and polish on insurance could be as low as 1500.
But don't forget some Japan dentists try to scam you for separate visits for top and bottom cleaning, which doubles the price.


I thought fluoride treatment was only for children? Airflow cleaning??

Scams for more visits aside, comparing apples to apples, it's far cheaper here.
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