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chokonen888 wrote:The frequency will fuck up anything with an internal clock. It might help to know what appliances you're bringing as well. For example, as Coligny said, a NA appliance will work here without an adapter but I wouldn't recommend doing that with something like a hairdryer or microwave.
chokonen888 wrote:The frequency will fuck up anything with an internal clock. It might help to know what appliances you're bringing as well. For example, as Coligny said, a NA appliance will work here without an adapter but I wouldn't recommend doing that with something like a hairdryer or microwave.
Taro Toporific wrote:
chokonen888 wrote:Taro Toporific wrote:
At what point do you decide to go off grid with solar/wind/hamster at 110v/60hz??
Taro Toporific wrote:Side note: My euro-trash Phillips electric shavers run 16% slower even though Phillips claims they have a 100-240V, 50/60 Hz rating. Even simple things like my grandma's super-cool, 1950s stainless steel toaster takes almost a full minute longer to complete a toasting cycle.
Taro Toporific wrote:chokonen888 wrote:Taro Toporific wrote:
At what point do you decide to go off grid with solar/wind/hamster at 110v/60hz??
When/if I move to the Rice Ranch in Shikoku, I will go with 12 V Solar Panels and ship over biggest 1960s Airstream (12 Volt) I can find. I already have my two hand-wired, 1sqm panels that I use to trickle-charge my electo-conversion vehicle projects.
For the past 30 years, hot water on the farm has been supplied by Israeli style heaters (direct gravity feed, passive solar water heaters). Our beer cooler, is a 2m deep spring house (9°C), which up until 1980 was the only "refrigerator" the farm had.
Bottom line: I could pull the plug today, if I wanted to.
chokonen888 wrote:Taro Toporific wrote:chokonen888 wrote:Taro Toporific wrote:
At what point do you decide to go off grid with solar/wind/hamster at 110v/60hz??
When/if I move to the Rice Ranch in Shikoku, I will go with 12 V Solar Panels and ship over biggest 1960s Airstream (12 Volt) I can find. I already have my two hand-wired, 1sqm panels that I use to trickle-charge my electo-conversion vehicle projects.
For the past 30 years, hot water on the farm has been supplied by Israeli style heaters (direct gravity feed, passive solar water heaters). Our beer cooler, is a 2m deep spring house (9°C), which up until 1980 was the only "refrigerator" the farm had.
Bottom line: I could pull the plug today, if I wanted to.
I say do eeeeet....but why stick to 12v?
I don't know of any homes here efficient enough to sell power back to the local monopoly but at the prices it goes for here, something like a solar/wind farm might actually be profitable
Coligny wrote:Low power appliance for rv/camping are all 12v and plentifull to buy.
You should really start reading post zombie apocalypse survival and preparation books.
GomiGirl wrote:chokonen888 wrote:I don't know of any homes here efficient enough to sell power back to the local monopoly but at the prices it goes for here, something like a solar/wind farm might actually be profitable
My parents at the Gold Coast have solar panels and they sell back to the grid at a profit - a small profit but combine that with zero power bills, it is awesome.
chokonen888 wrote:Coligny wrote:Low power appliance for rv/camping are all 12v and plentifull to buy.
You should really start reading post zombie apocalypse survival and preparation books.
Yeah, and you can use auto batteries to store excess....but why bother if you can generate 100v 60hz (or 110v for that matter on your own and not have to buy 12v everything?
(though Taro won't have to pay property taxes on his Air Stream so there's an idea )
Coligny wrote:chokonen888 wrote:Coligny wrote:Low power appliance for rv/camping are all 12v and plentifull to buy.
You should really start reading post zombie apocalypse survival and preparation books.
Yeah, and you can use auto batteries to store excess....but why bother if you can generate 100v 60hz (or 110v for that matter on your own and not have to buy 12v everything?
(though Taro won't have to pay property taxes on his Air Stream so there's an idea )
If he put this on the airstream it make more sense to standardize on 12 v so he can hit the road with no trouble with few 12v highcapacity deep discharge batteries rather than at least 8 for 100v plus a DC to ac inverter. Also, led lights for rvs are plentifull and all 12v...nusually, anything to be powered by battery banks try to be lower than 48v (telecom specs).
Also, shitload of modern day to day stuff are either 12vdc or 5 vdc and require 100->12v adapters. All desk computers do for a start... Medium and small lcd tv, ipod, pad, phones are 5v. And on and on...
Russell wrote:Where can you get deep cycle batteries? The cheapest are usually the batteries for golf carts, but Japan being Japan, I suspect that golf cart batteries may be pretty expensive here due to golf being considered a rich man's sport. Anyway, you read it here: use deep cycle batteries.
Yokohammer wrote:Russell wrote:Where can you get deep cycle batteries? The cheapest are usually the batteries for golf carts, but Japan being Japan, I suspect that golf cart batteries may be pretty expensive here due to golf being considered a rich man's sport. Anyway, you read it here: use deep cycle batteries.
Not really all that expensive.
A little over JPY 12,000 at that large online store:
Russell wrote:Looks good.
Since no water needs to be added, they are likely closed types, isn't it?
Yokohammer wrote:I'm quite happy with the cost/performance of ACDelco batteries.
I have one in the Bimmer and it has been totally reliable thus far ... which is impressive because that car often only gets driven about once a week.
Coligny wrote:Totally, one circuit for normal operation in 110v and a secondary for all emergency lights. Have you checked the power of the 3 w t10 marker led lights for cars ? Enought to light a 8 mat room... At worse can be directly powered with the car without worrying on converter efficiency loss or any old 12v batt.
chokonen888 wrote:
wagyl wrote:chokonen888 wrote:
Did Gunma and Yamanashi come under Chubu Denryoku's wing?
The 50 Hz/60 Hz border is not strictly accurate either.
Coligny wrote:For total power no, because of some appliance that are not available for RV/travel/12v like all my machine tools, woodworking tools/ heating washing machine but for a normal person who can live without a lathe or a killing machine the problem would be inexistant...
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