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Why doesn't Japan have a "credible" indie music scene?

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Why doesn't Japan have a "credible" indie music scene?

Postby Mulboyne » Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:08 am

There's a new piece in the Guardian's "Turning Japanese" series which has popped up on FG before in this thread.

Notes from the Underground
Why has Japan struggled to foster credible underground music scenes? Turning Japanese spoke to three people who are trying to rectify this, starting with indie label owner, Fumi Chikakoshi.

My name is Fumi, I was born and raised Kanazawa, where I have run my label, Rallye, for seven years. I deal mostly with western artists, like Au Revoir Simone and Whitest Boy Alive, but I have a few Japanese artists as well. I don't mean to release albums only by Western artists, but sadly I don't think there are any Japanese artists that are any good right now.

The lack of an independent/underground scene in Japan is mostly down to snooty attitudes among people who might be involved in potential scenes; they're more interested in trying to be cool than in doing anything original. Shibuya-kei was the last real movement, 15 years ago – but even this just came from fashion, there was nothing more substantial or political to it. Most bands don't express themselves beyond fashion – except a few big artists promoting environmentalism. This is partly because of the closed-minded nature of our country, something I wish would change.

In Japan, "punk" is not an attitude or a spirit, it is just a fashion. So Japanese people will think that the Sex Pistols and Avril Lavigne are the same thing, because they are associated with a trend. The British movie This Is England has just been released here, but young Japanense people in are more interested in the skinheads' wardrobes than in the historical background. They definitely enjoy it as a fashionable film, but won't consider its political content. They don't know what a skinhead really is.

Japanese people have a tendency to think that music is not "art", but "entertainment", something to be consumed.

We grow up with J-POP and this is what young bands aspire to: joining a major label and getting famous. I think the reason why Japanese artists haven't gained international success is because they don't have the ambition. Japanese indie bands influenced by western groups tend to sound exactly like the bands they are influenced by – so they don't appeal to an international audience because they don't have anything original to offer.

The other reason for a lack of underground scenes developing is that there are not enough environments to support them. Venue rental fees are costly, and bands have to pay to play: putting on gigs is expensive and not practical. The Japanese music media is terrible, too: all the articles in music magazines are about bands from rich major labels, who pay for all the advertising. In other words, if you have money, they will write positively about shitty bands. The music magazines these days are like catalogues for major labels – there is no such thing as a music critic.

I can agree with a lot of that. Mind you, they seem a bit more clearly articulated than you usually get in a Japanese interview. That does make me wonder whether Chikakoshi volunteered these observations himself or if the writer, Alex Hoban, "suggested" them to him and Chikakoshi just answered "So desu ne". I'm probably being unfair to both.
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Postby maraboutslim » Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:55 pm

It might be my bias showing, but as far as Japanese indie bands go, I'm pretty sure I can name more bands from Japan that have garnered some following in the USA/UK than from any other non-English country. There doesn't seem to be a lack of creativity to me at all, at least when seen/heard with gaijin eyes/ears.

I can't speak of the current scene on the ground, but when I was involved in the Tokyo indie scene in the 90s, few bands seemed focused on making it big: they all seemed to be doing it for fun and for the creative outlet (art?). I found no real difference in this regard from my time spent in the California indie scene in the 80s and 2000s. I was the token gaijin of our own little scene focused around an indie label started by our drummer. He released cassette tapes and then eventually 7" vinyl singles and then of course later CDs. We'd organize gigs in Shibuya or Shinjuku or Shimokitazawa or whatever, with four or five bands. Yes, it was pretty much "pay to play" in the sense that we had to sell a certain number of tickets to break even before being paid anything (usually just enough to cover our practice studio fees between gigs) but if we're honest, the same can be said of the Los Angeles scene. All the bands did their own recording at home or in little studios (chronicled on the CD "Pop Jingu" released by an American label and a vol. 2 and 3 released by japanese label). I also published a Japanese music magazine featuring bands that weren't part of our little scene, but were from various indie labels around Japan. Overall, it seemed like a pretty healthy scene to me.

I want to hope that the exact same type of spirit exists today and that the author of the article just hasn't tapped into it. Sure, Japan is not New York or London circa 1977, but there has gotta be some interesting stuff happening. Isn't there?
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Postby Amanojakuu » Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:10 pm

I can offer one possibility.

Lots of bands come out of Leeds in the UK. This is because its a city with ready access to lots of cheap housing with basements. Therefore, drummers are relatively plentiful, and this creates a good possibility for bands to form out of the cities population of musicians.

Being a drummer myself, I find it prohibitively hard to drum here in Japan. Sure I can rent a room out for an hour or two, but I can`t put in the daily private practice time needed to get, and stay good.

No drummers = no bands.

Saying that, I live in Koenji, and the `scene` seems booming here. I can also name plenty of indie bands with cred here; Boris, Melt Banana, Lite, Mono, Envy, Hi Standard, to name a few off the top of my head.
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