The Story of Louis Zamperini

[Mulboyne]

I've just read Laura Hillenbrand's book about Louis Zamperini, "Unbroken: A World War II Story of Survival, Resilience, and Redemption". It's worth a read but you can also get an ouline of his story from these YouTube videos:



The rest are after the break. The main link to Japan starts in the second video when Zamperini is captured during the war and sent to Ofuna Prison. As the link there shows, several of the guards at the camp were later convicted at the War Crimes Tribunal. He was then sent to Omori in Tokyo where life wasn't any easier.

[Mulboyne]

The last few seconds of these clips end in white noise so watch out for that. You should watch the last part where CBS interviews Mutsuhiro Watanabe.

[Samurai_Jerk]

The movie is coming out this Christmas.

[Coligny]

Director... Angelina Jolie...

[Takechanpoo]

Imperial Japan took them prisoners AT LEAST and beat them.
on the other hand, US and damn Aussie dudes even didnt, concretely shot J-guys to death even if they abandoned weapons and surrendered.
how long the fuk will this kind of unfairness last?
fuk you

[Coligny]

Imperial Japan took them prisoners AT LEAST and beat them.
on the other hand, US and damn Aussie dudes even didnt, concretely shot J-guys to death even if they abandoned weapons and surrendered.
how long the fuk will this kind of unfairness last?
fuk you

and unfortunately they didn't shoot prostitutes... So now we have to deal with you here... (is your mom still in the business ?)

[Wage Slave]

Imperial Japan took them prisoners AT LEAST and beat them.
on the other hand, US and damn Aussie dudes even didnt, concretely shot J-guys to death even if they abandoned weapons and surrendered.
how long the fuk will this kind of unfairness last?
fuk you

Beat them, executed them using a sword, worked them to death, used them for bayonet practice and more. Word had got back and it is true there was sometimes no quarter asked or given in battle. But that was Bushido no? And that's what justified the barbarian treatment of allied POWs all along, no?

When they really had surrendered, the Japanese troops were disarmed and sent back to their families. As you well know and as well history will forever record. Whatever nonsense you spout.

[Coligny]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bridge ... River_Kwai

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merry_Chri ... ._Lawrence

Sorry Taketard, couldn't find links to Anpanman adaptations, you'll have to focus for a full length movie...

[Takechanpoo]

Imperial Japan took them prisoners AT LEAST and beat them.
on the other hand, US and damn Aussie dudes even didnt, concretely shot J-guys to death even if they abandoned weapons and surrendered.
how long the fuk will this kind of unfairness last?
fuk you

Beat them, executed them using a sword, worked them to death, used them for bayonet practice and more. Word had got back and it is true there was sometimes no quarter asked or given in battle. But that was Bushido no? And that's what justified the barbarian treatment of allied POWs all along, no?

When they really had surrendered, the Japanese troops were disarmed and sent back to their families. As you well know and as well history will forever record. Whatever nonsense you spout.

your attitude is very the same with netouyos' one toward kidnapped comfort women and nanjin incident in which they deny it just because there are only suspicious testimonies by hysteric dotards and no official documents indicated it.(actually there are testimonies that numerous surrendered no-weapon J soldiers were ruthlessly shot to death by US or aussie soldiers )
what an irony

[Coligny]

your attitude is very the same with netouyos' one toward kidnapped comfort women and nanjin incident in which they deny it just because there are only suspicious testimonies by hysteric dotards and no official documents indicated it.(actually there are testimonies that numerous surrendered no-weapon J soldiers were ruthlessly shot to death by US or aussie soldiers )
what an irony

If they are dead how can they testify ? (me too can troll the gravy train Take...)

[Wage Slave]

(actually there are testimonies that numerous surrendered no-weapon J soldiers were ruthlessly shot to death by US or aussie soldiers )

It happened and nobody denies it. It happened a lot in Burma done by Brits and Indians/Pakistanis and Nepalese fighting with the British Army. Just read the accounts of people who were there. By that stage people had completely lost it with the Japanese Imperial Army and its bullshit. No doubt about it. And there were numerous instances when Japanese soldiers had feigned injury or surrender only to launch suicide attacks with grenades. This was fighting to the death as required by the Imperial Japanese Army and both sides knew it.

In the lead up to that situation the Imperial Japanese army had killed literally millions of civilians and POWs in a disgusting and barbaric war of aggression. Often they were killed in extremely cruel, degrading and even perverted ways. OK, so the other side should have still respected their surrender in all cases but it's asking a lot even if the resources to do so existed - which in Burma often they didn't.

Nothing could be more hypocritical than supporters of the Imperial Japanese Army complaining about the treatment of their soldiers by the other side. The Imperial Japanese Army didn't even treat their own soldiers decently and you do reap what you sow.

[IparryU]

War is hell an everyone does inhumane things.

But what the Nazis and Japs were doing was fucked by any war standard. Africa does similar shit still... Yes America bombed Japan twice and that was fucked with no excuses or justification for it... Period.

But if America didn't bomb they would have put kids on the line and marching down the emperor would have made the Nanking Massacre look not so bad.

Better them than us.

[Samurai_Jerk]

War is hell an everyone does inhumane things.

But what the Nazis Germans and Japs were doing was fucked by any war standard.

FTFY

Yes America bombed Japan twice and that was fucked with no excuses or justification for it... Period.

But if America didn't bomb they would have put kids on the line and marching down the emperor would have made the Nanking Massacre look not so bad.

Better them than us.

You just justified and excused the very thing you said there was no justification or excuse for.

[IparryU]

War is hell an everyone does inhumane things.

But what the Nazis Germans and Japs were doing was fucked by any war standard.

FTFY

Yes America bombed Japan twice and that was fucked with no excuses or justification for it... Period.

But if America didn't bomb they would have put kids on the line and marching down the emperor would have made the Nanking Massacre look not so bad.

Better them than us.

You just justified and excused the very thing you said there was no justification or excuse for.

Just playing politician for takechan. Trying to get him to rebuttal and what not.

[dimwit]

Imperial Japan took them prisoners AT LEAST and beat them.
on the other hand, US and damn Aussie dudes even didnt, concretely shot J-guys to death even if they abandoned weapons and surrendered.
how long the fuk will this kind of unfairness last?
fuk you

This is some of the most disingenous bullshit to come out of you in a long time. I will assume that you are truly ignorant of the history of WWII and are not selectively warping it (though I doubt it).

Ever heard of the concept of jibaku? In general, if caught in a hopeless situation the Japanese soldier was expected to try to take as many of the enemy with him as he committed suicide. If this meant faking surrender so you could get close enough kill them it was considered fine. The Goettge patrol is a example.

During the Pacific Theatre of World War II, Japanese soldiers often booby-trapped their dead and wounded and/or faked surrenders or injuries to lure American troops into a trap then surprise attack them. One example of this was the "Goettge Patrol" during the early days of the Guadalcanal Campaign in 1942 in which a fake Japanese surrender resulted in more than 20 American dead. It has been asserted that this incident, along with many other perfidious actions of the Japanese throughout the Pacific War, led to an American tendency to shoot the dead or wounded Japanese soldiers and those who were attempting to surrender and not take them as POWs easily.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfidy

This happened a great deal early in the war so that Americans and other became extremely wary Japanese surrendering from that point on. So yes, they did shoot Japanese soldiers surrendering, because they often couldn't distinguish between those who were legitimately surrendering and the fanatical fuckwit jihadists (for lack of a better word) who thought they were doing the Emperors bidding. In fact, the Japanese Army encouraged jibaku because they wanted to make in as difficult as possible for anyone to surrender. So if anyone is to blame for the deaths of Japanese soldiers who were trying to surrender it was Imperial Japanese High Command.

That being said, there were at times massacres, and shootings of prisoners but unlike the Japanese High Command, American High Command tried to discourage it, as they saw that if high numbers of Japanese surrendered it would damage Japanese morale.

However, more to the point, your comment is a red herring as the discussion is about the treatment of POW in camps, not the actions that occured during surrender. For those who did sucessfully surrender and were sent to POW camps the death rate was low and often a result of suicide.

[Wage Slave]

Yeah well this is someone who:

1. Thought that a document that proved comfort women were volunteers free to accept or reject clients was still classified in order to hide the truth when it was clearly stamped as declassified in the 50's.

2. Didn't understand that the testimony from a Japanese POW in the same document was that the soldier choose not to patronise comfort women stations because they weren't cheap. NOT that the comfort women enjoyed any choice in the matter.

3. Thought that a group of Korean women were launching an action against the US Government when their claim is exclusively against the Korean Government.

4. Says there is evidence from comfort women's testimony that people in US army jeeps and helicopters were kidnapping women in Korea during the second world war.

And now this.