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GRACIE wrote:I was audited for not paying tax for some years. I was a very well established english teacher and owed 1,250,000YEN. I paid that. I then owed the prefecture around 800,000YEN, however I did not pay this and just left thinking I would never return with my wife and son.
I have a dependent spouse visa that runs out april of this year. I am thinking of returning to a different part of Japan next year. I would need to re apply for my visa. Would me not paying the pref tax screw me?
Has anyone any experience with this? If there is not a problem with my visa and I get around it, do each prefectures have some sort of connection?
I was told the different tax departments do not.
Any advice would be great.
ps all bills were paid apart from pref tax. I didnt see the point at the time and really could not afford it.
GRACIE wrote:Has anyone any experience with this?
GRACIE wrote:Any advice would be great.
GRACIE wrote:I didnt see the point at the time and really could not afford it.
GRACIE wrote:
ps all bills were paid apart from pref tax. I didnt see the point at the time and really could not afford it.
Cyka UchuuJin wrote:G...your diplomacy is just outstanding.
Greji wrote:Among other things, plus I'm broke. That's why I'm going to stay at your place when I go to Dubai in June. I'll send you my preferred cater's number in advance.
Greji wrote:I won't add any more shots at you for not "seeing the point at the time", other than we all do it and get tossed into the same boat when somebody doesn't.
Going back to your problem, the simple answer is, where ever you relocate to, you make arrangements to pay what you owe and they will probably work with you for a payment plan to pay it.
However, in answer to your question, if you are going to a new place in Japan you may not come up on the radar depending on how computerized your new home is. It should not affect up dating the visa, but when you register your residence at the local city office, it could pop up. You probably need to approach filling out all paperwork as a brand new resident coming in from overseas and not refer to any prior residency in as much as you can without of course, submitting a false application. You really, really don't want to do that. I wouldn't hope for too much, because on the reverse of your national tax application, they will ask you about your total time in Japan. Now that is National Tax, but it is a document that has its way of coming to the surface in city records at various times. However, if it goes by the wayside and you remain current in local and national taxes, it is possible they may never reconcile any previous residences and hence previous tax questions.
As I say, the easiest way is to pay up.
GRACIE wrote:btw I may never come back, only for a holiday as I have a good job and life is great where I am. I just wanted to keep my options open and do have fond memories of Japan. However, that being said...things change and the Japanese economy will never recover. The good days are long good.
GRACIE wrote:I hate this "you asshole gaijin, you make the rest of us look bad!".
GRACIE wrote:Im not going to say to you "oh I should have been GOMENASAI", because I am not. I should have handled my business affairs better all in all and paying my taxes would have been a part of that. I should have paid taxes but not for the reason of feeling bad for not paying the government money they would have only squandered.
I hate this "you asshole gaijin, you make the rest of us look bad!". well for those dicks that say that, here is some NEWS, most Japanese avoid tax somehow too.
GRACIE wrote:Thank you for your reply. It made sense.
for all you self righteous gaijin that dont want your bs goody two shoes image tarnished - FU. I lived a good life in Japan. I treated people well and paid all my bills apart from tax. screw the Gov. they screw with the peoples money like there is no tomorrow so I an guarantee you I can sleep very well.
Im not going to say to you "oh I should have been GOMENASAI", because I am not. I should have handled my business affairs better all in all and paying my taxes would have been a part of that. I should have paid taxes but not for the reason of feeling bad for not paying the government money they would have only squandered.
I hate this "you asshole gaijin, you make the rest of us look bad!". well for those dicks that say that, here is some NEWS, most Japanese avoid tax somehow too. And what, you telling me you never did anything to be ashamed of? like getting drunk in a bar acting the big tough gaijin? or bang some salary mans mrs? or some shit.
I asked a question, and I get bombarded with self righteous wanna be gaijin do gooder priests who say "dont do that in MY Japan".
Think about what some of you said, you don`t even know me and yet you form an opinion of me with what? I didnt pay taxes...
for the people who posted "normally" thanks.
btw I may never come back, only for a holiday as I have a good job and life is great where I am. I just wanted to keep my options open and do have fond memories of Japan. However, that being said...things change and the Japanese economy will never recover. The good days are long good.
Samurai_Jerk wrote:Faggot.
Samurai_Jerk wrote:Faggot.
GRACIE wrote:Thank you for your reply. It made sense.
for all you self righteous gaijin that dont want your bs goody two shoes image tarnished - FU. I lived a good life in Japan. I treated people well and paid all my bills apart from tax. screw the Gov. they screw with the peoples money like there is no tomorrow so I an guarantee you I can sleep very well.
Im not going to say to you "oh I should have been GOMENASAI", because I am not. I should have handled my business affairs better all in all and paying my taxes would have been a part of that. I should have paid taxes but not for the reason of feeling bad for not paying the government money they would have only squandered.
I hate this "you asshole gaijin, you make the rest of us look bad!". well for those dicks that say that, here is some NEWS, most Japanese avoid tax somehow too. And what, you telling me you never did anything to be ashamed of? like getting drunk in a bar acting the big tough gaijin? or bang some salary mans mrs? or some shit.
I asked a question, and I get bombarded with self righteous wanna be gaijin do gooder priests who say "dont do that in MY Japan".
Think about what some of you said, you don`t even know me and yet you form an opinion of me with what? I didnt pay taxes...
for the people who posted "normally" thanks.
btw I may never come back, only for a holiday as I have a good job and life is great where I am. I just wanted to keep my options open and do have fond memories of Japan. However, that being said...things change and the Japanese economy will never recover. The good days are long good.
Ketou wrote:How is one persons tax avoidance such a calamity for the rest of gaijinhood?
Ketou wrote:How is one persons tax avoidance such a calamity for the rest of gaijinhood?
omae mona wrote:On top of the gaijin-related arguments (which James summarized nicely), I also just hate tax dodgers. Why should I get stuck with part of the bill to subsidize this guy's life? I don't know him. And on top of that, it turns out I've involuntarily subsidized a complete asshole too.
Ketou wrote:A lot lot LOT more of your tax dollars go to subsidise the Central Bank.
Sorry, but I just cannot fathom how you could be angry at one guy when the whole tax system is an absolute farce.
Ketou wrote:I'd have to agree with the self righteous gaijin bit....one of them even gave me a red snot for my last comment in this thread.
I would really like to know what you people who are so worried about your image are thinking?? This is a serious question, no sarcasm. How is one persons tax avoidance such a calamity for the rest of gaijinhood?
Samurai_Jerk wrote:Faggot.
james wrote:because of the singularly binary world view held by most japanese - so what one idiot foreigner does reflects very disproportionately on people as a group.
omae mona wrote:On top of the gaijin-related arguments (which James summarized nicely), I also just hate tax dodgers. Why should I get stuck with part of the bill to subsidize this guy's life? I don't know him. And on top of that, it turns out I've involuntarily subsidized a complete asshole too.
omae mona wrote:Fine, but that's done under the law, presumably done in the interest of all citizens, and if you disagree you can work towards booting the politicians supporting it out of office.
Tax dodging is done by crooks who think they deserve special treatment. Nobody, anywhere, thought "hey, let's give this guy a 100% a tax break". It's a selfish act. It impacts other people.
Are you saying it's OK to dodge taxes because you disagree with the idea? That's selfish. In a democracy, you are supposed to effect change by participating in the democratic process, not by stealing. Stealing fucks over the people who didn't do it (even if they, too, oppose taxes). You think the rest of us have fun paying taxes?
omae mona wrote:Fine, but that's done under the law, presumably done in the interest of all citizens, and if you disagree you can work towards booting the politicians supporting it out of office.
Tax dodging is done by crooks who think they deserve special treatment. Nobody, anywhere, thought "hey, let's give this guy a 100% a tax break". It's a selfish act. It impacts other people.
Are you saying it's OK to dodge taxes because you disagree with the idea? That's selfish. In a democracy, you are supposed to effect change by participating in the democratic process, not by stealing. Stealing fucks over the people who didn't do it (even if they, too, oppose taxes). You think the rest of us have fun paying taxes?
Ketou wrote:What I am saying is that your anger is misplaced.
A massive sum of taxation dollars goes to pay back interest on a privately run parasitic Central Bank which prints our money at interest. The Central Bank system is stealing the taxes of every citizen in the country and you would support it over the poor bastard battlers trying to scratch together a crust?
Politicians scam away millions every year, Fat Cats avoid paying millions, the Central Banks sucks up tens of billions but this one lone knob who splits on a couple of grand.....what a prick he is!
omae mona wrote:Have no fear. I am perfectly capable of being angry at multiple people at one time, believe me. You are creating a very silly straw man argument by trying to imply that since I think the OP is a crook, then I must support other tax evaders or corrupt politicians.
And you're making another silly argument by implying that you can't be angry about crime because you disagree with an unrelated government policy.
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