Fukushima is super terrific, just ask the gaijin

[omae mona]

Any discussion of radiation health effects that does not talk about it quantitatively is pretty much a scam. Even if you hate math, it doesn't make the math go away. Radiation is not even remotely a yes or no issue, a safe or unsafe issue, or a black or white issue. Health effects are tied to cumulative doses and their effect on your probability of getting cancer. Any articles or discussion talking about "hot spots" or "lots of radiation" without numbers are by ignorant writers, and are probably intentionally designed to scare you. Articles about "billions of becquerels" are also designed to scare you, because the numbers sound big.

Here's a nice live map of radiation in Fukushima. It took 2 seconds to find it in Google. http://fukushima-radioactivity.jp/ It even has English.

Assuming you stay out of a 40km radius around the power plant, the vast majority of dark blue dots when you click on them show under 0.1 microsieverts per hour. Choko, when you took an international flight recently, you were most likely experiencing an average of 5.0 microsieverts per hour. That means you'd need 50 hours in those parts of Fukushima to pick up as much radiation as you picked up on 1 hour of your airplane flight.

Also compare the Fukushima radiation to other places shown on the 全国調査結果 bar. Okayama prefecture (0.06), Hiroshima prefecture (0.10), etc. Pretty much the same as the non-disaster area of Fukushima. All of them about half the normal natural background radiation in Hong Kong, if I'm not mistaken.

If you're between 40-70km from the disaster site, the worst measurements (dark green dots) are up to 1.0 microsievert per hour. So even if you ventured that close to the disaster, at worst they're still 5 times LOWER than the radiation on your airplane flight.

Here's some information on radiation from flights: http://aviationknowledge.wikidot.com/av ... -radiation. Your 5 microsievert per hour airflight radiation is only surpassed on that Fukushima map by the dark red dots, and just by a bit in most cases. I would not hang around those areas (within 30 km of the site) for too long if I were you, any more than I'd like to spend weeks onboard an international flight.

[wagyl]

Choko, when you took an international flight recently, you were most likely experiencing an average of 5.0 microsieverts per hour. That means you'd need 50 hours in those parts of Fukushima to pick up as much radiation as you picked up on 1 hour of your airplane flight.

Almost correct, but you are making the assumption that Choko's base exposure is zero, which it is not. That same http://fukushima-radioactivity.jp source shows Tokyo readings as 0.03 μSv/h, so it is a differential of 0.07 compared to 4.97. That 50 hours becomes more than 70 hours hugging a puppy dog for every hour of airflight. It is fine to make a decision to avoid a holiday destination, and it can be as trivial as "they don't know how to make a proper margarita." I think what sparked this whole event was that it might have been perceived as a lazy "Fukushima is all doomed" based decision.

(LA is currently 0.12 μSv/h)

[omae mona]

Choko, when you took an international flight recently, you were most likely experiencing an average of 5.0 microsieverts per hour. That means you'd need 50 hours in those parts of Fukushima to pick up as much radiation as you picked up on 1 hour of your airplane flight.

Almost correct, but you are making the assumption that Choko's base exposure is zero, which it is not. That same http://fukushima-radioactivity.jp source shows Tokyo readings as 0.03 μSv/h, so it is a differential of 0.07 compared to 4.97. That 50 hours becomes more than 70 hours hugging a puppy dog for every hour of airflight. It is fine to make a decision to avoid a holiday destination, and it can be as trivial as "they don't know how to make a proper margarita." I think what sparked this whole event was that it might have been perceived as a lazy "Fukushima is all doomed" based decision.

(LA is currently 0.12 μSv/h)

By "proper margarita", I assume you mean "one without bananas".

But yes, looking at leaving Tokyo for a choice of Fukushima or an airplane, I agree 1 hour of extra exposure from the flight would take 70 hours of extra exposure from Fukushima to accumulate. That's a more useful calculation than mine.

[matsuki]

OM, thanks for that link, that's exactly what I wanted....but it seems to back up what the documentaries I saw show. Air tests don't show much of concern that far out from the disaster site. It's the detection of Cesium in the rivers, sewage, soil, pools, etc. that far out which concerns me. No huge concentrations reported...but however low the risk is, I still believe there is indeed potential for "hot spots" where all that shit accumulates. (way too many ways of dispersion to track everyone) Once again, I'm not so bothered by it that I won't go there when needed. I don't think going through that area or spending a day there will likely impact my chances of cancer in any meaningful way. Just saying I wouldn't go vacation there (even if, in all likelihood, the total exposure is less than a round trip flight to the US) cause with my luck, I'll end up ingesting a cesium infused margarita because of something as innocent as a local bumpkin using "fresh local mountain spring water" to make the ice. Remember, TIJ....anyone want to guess how many people were wearing cesium enhanced clothes after the initial explosions?

[Taro Toporific]

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via @DailyGomiuri (@DailyGomiuri)'s twitter / Sept. 5, 2013

[Coligny]

I can't help thinking there is something really wrong with this hoe...

[Russell]

Since she was hired, things have only gone downhill for TEPCO. You noticed that, huh?

[matsuki]

Since she was hired, things have only gone downhill for TEPCO. You noticed that, huh?

Wasn't she one of the ones openly admitting TEPCO is failing at everything they set out to do?

[Russell]

There she is again...

AP News / 2013July05 Lady Barbara Judge:
TEPCO has changed its culture to one of safety: it can now restart its reactors.

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IoD chairwoman Lady Barbara Judge steps down amid misconduct allegations

The chairwoman of one of the UK’s leading business groups is reported to have stepped down in response to allegations of serious misconduct.

Several news outlets reported that an investigation had been conducted into Lady Barbara Judge, chairwoman of the influential Institute of Directors,‎ following allegations raised by a whistle-blower.

The Times reported that Lady Judge’s alleged misconduct includes making racist and sexist slurs and bullying other IoD staff members.

The IoD is known as a promoter of good corporate governance practices and frequently criticises and calls out other organisations and companies for falling short in this area.

Citing an email from one board director, Sky News reported that the investigation into complaints against Lady Judge, conducted by law firm Hill Dickinson, is estimated to have cost more than £60,000.

The broadcaster also reported that the investigation had concluded that the chairwoman had sought to appoint close allies to the IoD board and had used her role to further her own external commercial interests.

She is reported to have instructed the City law firm Addleshaw Goddard to represent her.

A spokesman for the IoD said: “Our HR department was made aware of a number of allegations from staff members concerning the conduct of non-executive members of our board.

“Senior independent council member Dame Joan Stringer commissioned a full investigation into the allegations which was carried out by independent experts from the Hill Dickinson law firm,” the spokesman added.

The spokesman also said that a detailed report and findings would be discussed by members of the IoD council on Thursday afternoon.

The chairwoman was in 2010 awarded the CBE in the Queen’s Birthday Honours for services to the nuclear and financial services industries. In the same year she was also named in BBC Radio 4's Woman's Hour 100 Most Powerful Women list.

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Hmm, maybe they should put her in charge of Brexit...

[Mike Oxlong]

Get your fax right: Bungling officials spark Japan nuclear scare

Bungling Japanese officials sparked a nuclear scare after a violent, late-night earthquake by ticking the wrong box on a fax form -- inadvertently alerting authorities to a potential accident.

Employees of the Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO), operator of the Kashiwazaki-Kariwa nuclear plant in Niigata -- where the 6.4-magnitude quake struck -- faxed a message to local authorities seeking to allay any fears of damage.

But TEPCO workers accidentally ticked the wrong box on the form, mistakenly indicating there was an abnormality at the plant rather than there was no problem.

One official filled out the form, and it was checked by a colleague before being sent.

Many Japanese government departments and companies still rely on fax machines for communication.

<Continues>

https://www.france24.com/en/20190619-ge ... lear-scare

[matsuki]

Many Japanese government departments and companies still rely on fax machines for communication.

...and this should tell you where their collective heads are at.

[Russell]

What is the best energy source in an era of global warming?

The short answer is Nuclear Energy, according to the authors of the book "A Bright Future". Not really a surprise, given that Staffan A. Qvist, one of the authors, has a Ph.D. in nuclear engineering. International Relations, the expertise of the other author, Joshua S. Goldstein, does not exactly inspire confidence that the book gives a balanced view about the various energy options out there...

[Thanatos' embalmed botfly]

Time to treat yourselves guys.

You deserve it!

https://spraguedawley.com/wayne-gunston ... ral-baths/

[Buraku]

Korea condemns Japan’s decision to release water from Fukushima
http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20210413000889


South Korea on Tuesday strongly condemned Japan's decision to release more than 1 million tons of contaminated water from the destroyed Fukushima nuclear power plant, saying the radioactive water threatens the safety of neighboring countries and their marine environments.

The government has also made official comments in discussions with the International Atomic Energy Agency and the World Trade Organization on the danger of radioactive water from the Fukushima plant, and on the need to demand transparency and thorough checks on how Japan plans to dispose of the contaminated water.

"The United States is aware that the GOJ examined several options related to the management of the treated water currently being stored onsite at the Fukushima Dai-ichi site," the US Department of State said in a press release Tuesday, referring to the government of Japan.

[omae mona]

The government has also made official comments in discussions with the International Atomic Energy Agency and the World Trade Organization on the danger of radioactive water from the Fukushima plant, and on the need to demand transparency and thorough checks on how Japan plans to dispose of the contaminated water.

WTF does that vague "in discussions with" language mean? I think I know the answer.. it means whoever wrote it is trying to avoid mentioning what the International Atomic Energy Agency actually said, because it crushes the narrative of those having their primal scream "noooo radiation!". They're trying to make it sound like the IAEA agrees with them. Which is a lie. Here's what the IAEA actually is saying:

Director General Rafael Mariano Grossi welcomed Japan’s announcement that it has decided how to dispose of treated water stored at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station and he said the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) stands ready to provide technical support in monitoring and reviewing the plan’s safe and transparent implementation.

Japan’s chosen water disposal method is both technically feasible and in line with international practice, IAEA Director General Grossi said. Controlled water discharges into the sea are routinely used by operating nuclear power plants in the world and in the region under specific regulatory authorisations based on safety and environmental impact assessments.

Too many science-denying idiots have big PR bullhorns.

[Grumpy Gramps]

Too many science-denying idiots have big PR bullhorns.

OTOH, the international nuke lobby has deep pockets. They also need the population to believe that whatever they do, is as safe as Mother Mary's bosom.

There is very little reliable and credible info, that's easy to find, in between the two extremes, also because the two extremes are shouting the loudest and drown everything else in their noise.

This makes it hard - at least for me - to build a solid and dependable opinion for myself. So I'd err on the side of caution and that's rather not "dump the trash that we ourselves created, nuke or not, into the ocean, because we don't know, what else to do with it. The tax-payers will surely be fine with paying for the most of it."

[Coligny]

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Too many science-denying idiots have big PR bullhorns.

And our favorit son of a whore is back calling "science" the process of dumping contaminated water into the ocean backed by the intensive research known as "discovering the holding tanks are full" and "building new tanks cost monies".

Why even try to be original while bad ideas have been around for decades.

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I guess the concept of "don't shit where you eat" knowledge have not yet reached your cave...
Speaking of eating, how are those bananas fueled powerplants implementation doing ?

Now let's go back to the fun of calling science the deployment of unproperly tested vaccines with dubious usefullness and bits of side effects backed by the few weeks of what morons call long term testing. Despite official schedules having around 2022-2023 as official long term studies end dates.

It's not because your butthurt and Tepco's incompetence have the same anniversary dates that you morph into a beacon of truth and knowledge.

But it's the good place to be for balanced madness, you are just a few thread away from morons shitting their panties over the threat of hobby drones to modern aviation while the number of collision between aircraft and turtles are still bigger than the number of accident between said drones and manned aircrafts. Maybe you can arrange for wife swapping parties to strengthen the brotherhood ?.

You can now go back to reposting video of die antwoord from 10years ago to pretend being a good little member dedicamated in enriching the communitay... they seem to even have made a movie, did you know that ?

[omae mona]

Coligny, your credibility here on any topics relating to science (or reality in general) was utterly destroyed in 2011 when you spent months alternately peeing in your pants, and posting messages here about how everybody - including people in Tokyo and even farther away - were going to get ill from radiation poisoning. Conspiracy theories left and right, claims that scientists and politicians were lying, and 100% of what you said turned out to be false. As we all knew. Nobody is listening to you now, either.

[Coligny]

“Omae Mona”

Pioneer of semantic fact checking.
Great knight of the clan of “Repeating it make it a reality”.
Celebrating 10 years of butthurt.

Also, being rated as 100% wrong on any... thing related to Fukushima
I DEMAND that you send me the framed certificate of this achievement signed by you from any bodily fluid you deem worthy of this document.

Because aside from the near statistical impossibility of your claim.
That would crown me as the absolute antichrist of disaster... appreciation (?!)
And it’s something that would look good on my wall of trophies...

[Isle of View]

Coligny, your credibility here on any topics relating to science (or reality in general) was utterly destroyed in 2011 when you spent months alternately peeing in your pants, and posting messages here about how everybody - including people in Tokyo and even farther away - were going to get ill from radiation poisoning. Conspiracy theories left and right, claims that scientists and politicians were lying, and 100% of what you said turned out to be false. As we all knew. Nobody is listening to you now, either.

Quite.

Abjectly innumerate fuckwits are the dumbest of all.

[Coligny]

It's like dynOmite fishing in a septic tank... can someone contact Damn Name too ?

[matsuki]

Where is Buraku with a conspiracy about DearMoon being a cover for dumping all the radioactive goodness on the moon?

[Buraku]

Radioactive waste storage facility to be constructed in Belarus

https://belsat.eu/en/news/14-04-2021-ra ... n-belarus/

[Buraku]

Japan turns back to nuclear power to tackle energy crisis

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-paci ... 022-12-16/

[Coligny]

Whatev’ as long as diesel keeps getting cheaper…

Also, why so little pickups rolling coal in the japanz ?

[Buraku]

A long-overlooked climate solution, geothermal could be in for its hottest decade yet
https://www.moosejawtoday.com/national- ... et-8029613
It's clean, renewable, and right there below our feet, but geothermal energy has largely remained undeveloped in Canada.

Japan would rather use the possible resources to go to hot springs or sauna with their dicks and tits hanging out, or build hot springs for a animals in nature even build springs for a wild monkey rather than use it as an enery resource, people who own the Onsens and Springs say these Power-Plant will create an 'Ice-Age' a magic superstitious shinto gods event and water levels and temperatures will 'drop'
They claim an Energy Station would make H20 vanish from Earth, 'we want the drive for geothermal energy developments to stop' said some Luddite vice president of the Japan Onsen Association. Japan produces one of the Lowest Levels of GeroThermal power on Earth, almost None of its electricity from geothermal, but the potential is enormous with Japanese having the highest Geothermal Potential even higher than Iceland Volcanic land or California.

Losing Steam: Why Does Japan Produce So Little Geothermal Power?
https://academic.oup.com/ssjj/article-a ... 45/6121422

Nuclear Power: The Thousand Year-Plus Albatross Around Humanity’s Neck
https://www.counterpunch.org/2024/01/12 ... itys-neck/

Workers prepare to remove fuel debris from Fukushima Daiichi
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20240110_32/

[Buraku]

Radioactive water leaks reported at Japan's crippled Fukushima power plant
https://mb.com.ph/2024/08/15/radioactiv ... ower-plant

Robot's attempt to get sample of melted nuclear fuel at Fukushima reactor suspended
https://japantoday.com/category/nationa ... -suspended