Tohoku Earthquake, Tsunami and Nuclear Disaster!!!

[matsuki]

I fall in the second catagory but it's hard to live life normally when getting off any train makes you want to sing this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQlIhraqL7o

[CrankyBastard]

This earthquake really divided people into two categories:
1. The ones that complained, packed their bags, and ran off like big French pussies (sorry Coligny, I couldn't resist!)
2. The ones that got their shit together, tried to live their lives normally, and had the strength to move on

I wonder where this Mrs. Fujiyama fit in... I can only guess.

I would add #3, those who begged their J spouses to go but wouldn't and wound up staying, sh*tting their pants. I don't personally know any...

I would add
4. Too old, cranky and hungover to give a shit.

Besides after reading Canton's description of the UK today, http://www.fuckedgaijin.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24508
I feel I'm better off where I am.

[dimwit]

Well, the scientific consensus really does seem to be that A BIG ONE is coming, if not THE BIG ONE. You FGs have probably all read how a major displacement of the big ol' plates creates all sorts of pressure down the line, and how the massive shift that caused the 2004 tsunami was followed four months later by a powerful earthquake nearby, one that fortunately didn't do much damage because it struck around a relatively uninhabited Indonesian island.

In any case, if I lived or worked on liquefaction-prone reclaimed land, I'd be implementing a get-me-outta-here plan, because any major quake would be unfold pretty much according to the Kobe script. I'd also be assessing - I am! - just how likely the neighbors' shit-shacks are likely to start fire.

Well unless you are talking about meteor impacts or megavolcanos I would say the big one was the big one. The big 9.0 magnitude quakes all have occurred along plate boundary subduction zones. Transform faults like the San Andreas or the Trans Shikoku are inherently more limited in size because there is less of them to slip. All the subduction zones faults are out at sea in Japan so it is hard to see something getting huge amounts bigger.

[Greji]

4. Too old, cranky and hungover to give a shit.

Cranky, is there a waiting list to join group #4?

[Cyka UchuuJin]

What the heck is this biach?
[IMG]http://thesun.mobi/]

she's exactly the reason i refused to speak to any media when i left last week.

QUOTE:"I'm scared, and shaky with hunger and really, really tired. I've got two hungry children and just a few crisps, oranges and a can of tuna.

so basically she's an unemployed hausfrau married to a salaryman and has found an opportunity to whinge about her life in an acceptable way, since no one would have listened to her if she was just plain broke.

[Greji]

she's exactly the reason i refused to speak to any media when i left last week.

QUOTE:"I'm scared, and shaky with hunger and really, really tired. I've got two hungry children and just a few crisps, oranges and a can of tuna.

so basically she's an unemployed hausfrau married to a salaryman and has found an opportunity to whinge about her life in an acceptable way, since no one would have listened to her if she was just plain broke.

How sad! Does she give head?

[matsuki]

How sad! Does she give head?

...well, she is hungry

[Kanchou]

A magnitude 9.0 precursor?

How BIG does THE BIG ONE have to be?

The Great Kanto Earthquake supposedly had a magnitude of 7.9.
Fires were the main cause of death in that case, not the quake.

It wasn't the quake this time either.

What's worse, fire or drowning? I would think the fire would be over a little quicker, but more painful.

[Yokohammer]

It wasn't the quake this time either.

What's worse, fire or drowning? I would think the fire would be over a little quicker, but more painful.

With a tsunami you might drown, but you're just as likely to be crushed or battered to death by debris. Probably a combination.

Think I'll pass.

[Mike Oxlong]

Were you at home when the tsunami struck?

[Yokohammer]

Were you at home when the tsunami struck?

Me? Yes.
We could see the water down the road, but it never made it as far as our house. There might have been more waves coming in though (there were plenty), so we headed for a relative's place in the hills and spent the night huddled around a kerosine heater. Didn't get a wink of sleep the first night.

[matsuki]

[ttjereth]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-23/fukushima-engineer-says-he-covered-up-flaw-at-shut-reactor.html

Why aren't we throwing all these people in jail after they admit to helping cover up defects which present a clear danger to the safety of the general population?

[CrankyBastard]

Cranky, is there a waiting list to join group #4?

Nah! Old degenerates like us get priority status at the front of the queue.

[ttjereth]

Nah! Old degenerates like us get priority status at the front of the queue.

That's just because we send you in first to make sure it's safe

We figure you've already lived good, long lives already.


Well, in the case of you two, long lives anyway

[IkemenTommy]

Nah! Old degenerates like us get priority status at the front of the queue.

The only priority you old farts get is the priority seats on the train.

[CrankyBastard]

The only priority you old farts get is the priority seats on the train.

Yeah, but you get the rest of the whole train to yourselves.

[omae mona]

Why aren't we throwing all these people in jail after they admit to helping cover up defects which present a clear danger to the safety of the general population?

Look, just because the guy was an engineer on the project does not mean he is any better at risk assessment than us idiots who are buying all the bottled water. Assuming he's telling the truth, it sounds possible the company breached regulations. But it's entirely possible their corrective actions were good enough to repair the defect. Case in point: the vessel did not burst (as far as I understand). Now I would strongly prefer not to have greedy companies substituting their own judgment for established regulations, and they should get slapped for that. But it's a stretch for us laymen, and maybe even that engineer, to jump to the conclusion that it was a clear danger to the public.

[Jack]

Why aren't we throwing all these people in jail after they admit to helping cover up defects which present a clear danger to the safety of the general population?

It looks like the thing worked for 40 years without a problem so obviously is was not as dangerous as the reporter strives to portray.

[Coligny]

It looks like the thing worked for 40 years without a problem so obviously is was not as dangerous as the reporter strives to portray.

The Concorde flew for quite sometimes also before somebody decided that not making the landing gear titanium-shard-proof was a hidden defect and start suing the entire engineering team...

Sidenote:
There is 2 schools of thought:

If it works, that means it have been done properly (yours it seems)

OR

If it has been done properly, it will works. (the Krauts, Nasa)

[ttjereth]

Yes, yes, I'm not speaking to the specific danger of individual incidents, but more to the whole thing with these people coming out of the woodwork admitting to helping cover up this or that.

Just because things sort of kind of worked out, doesn't mean people should be absolved for being greedy fuckwits or going along with something they themselves are now saying was dangerous and/or illegal.

The fact that the worst case scenario hasn't happened yet doesn't change the fact that there are cockroaches in my house that have more integrity than these people crawling out from under their rocks after god knows how long to say "I knew this was dangerous umpteen years ago and I know they covered it up because I helped!" and that if they are admitting to illegal and/or (self-professed) dangerous acts, they should be held culpable.

More so if they are only doing it to get themselves on the teevee or for the purposes of an interview or whatever.

[Coligny]

Look, just because the guy was (1)an engineer on the project does not mean he is any better at risk assessment than us idiots who are buying all the bottled water. Assuming he's telling the truth, it sounds possible the company breached regulations. But it's entirely possible their corrective actions were good enough to repair the defect. (2)Case in point: the vessel did not burst (as far as I understand). Now I would strongly prefer not to have greedy companies substituting their own judgment for established regulations, and they should get slapped for that. But it's a stretch for us laymen, and maybe even that engineer, to jump to the conclusion that it was a clear danger to the public.

(1) I'm pretty sure he or someone not far from him is specially payed for that.

(2) IT WAS SHUT DOWN AT THE TIME OF THE TSUNAMI... #reading_fail

[matsuki]

(1) I'm pretty sure he or someone not far from him is specially payed for that.

(2) IT WAS SHUT DOWN AT THE TIME OF THE TSUNAMI... #reading_fail

THIS

They're saying it probably wouldn't have withstood the incident had it been operational at the time of the Quake/Tsunami...

[cstaylor]

THIS

They're saying it probably wouldn't have withstood the incident had it been operational at the time of the Quake/Tsunami...

Plus the guy brought it up years ago, not just now. He even wrote a book about it.

http://openlibrary.org/works/OL9901097W/Genpatsu_wa_naze_kiken_ka

[omae mona]

[Coligny]

You know... some dunce took shortcuts while pouring the propellers of the Charles De Gaulle NPAC...

First few days at sea the propeller broke... and he had to come back on one prop only... the spare was also defective... and lucky we kept props from an older carrier so we could fix it quick, because there aint not duct tape strong enough for this...

When a containment vessel shrink and wrap while it's not supposed to... you can bet you ass that the thing is fubar...

[ttjereth]

[Tsuru]

I recall reading somewhere that Japan has/had the only foundry capable of casting a reactor vessel as one single piece, inferior American or European foundries have had to make do with welding those things out of smaller pieces. If they indeed covered up some damage as this guy says, it begs the question how many "undetected" casting flaws each $250 million dollar reactor vessel has.

[FG Lurker]

Yes, he first admitted it back in '88, so he should have been held responsible then

Keep in mind that the guy came out as a whistle-blower after the Chernobyl accident. Assuming there is a defect and it materially affected safety of the containment vessel then Hitachi should be held responsible, not him.

[ttjereth]

Keep in mind that the guy came out as a whistle-blower after the Chernobyl accident. Assuming there is a defect and it materially affected safety of the containment vessel then Hitachi should be held responsible, not him.

Oh, I agree 100% Hitachi should also be held responsible.