Tohoku Earthquake, Tsunami and Nuclear Disaster!!!

[canman]

Water and gas, but only 48% on my IPhone battery!

[Yokohammer]

Water and gas, but only 48% on my IPhone battery!

OK ... I won't draw you into a long conversation then.

[McTojo]

What did one tectonic plate say to another after the quake?

Not my fault!

U so stupid!

[Taro Toporific]

U so stupid!

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Scores of schools in South Korea closed over fears of radioactive rain
Daily Mail
Scores of schools in South Korea were closed Thursday as teachers and parents panicked over fears that falling rain could be carrying radiation from Japan's crippled nuclear plant...more...


outdated projection of fallout

[wagyl]

Daily Mail

Members who know the "newspaper" will probably agree with me, but I would appreciate a smiley, I suppose this one could do in a pinch , to indicate that the source of the "news" report can not be relied upon.

It would certainly save a measure of global angst.

ETA*
I do see that other papers are also reporting the story, but best to avoid the Daily Mail.

[canman]

Hey we got our electricity back on about 30 minutes ago. But the Tohoku expressway is closed again because of some damage near Morioka. Not sure when that will be up and running again. Oh the joys of living in Tohoku these days. But the family is fine, no major damage, a few old people didn't make it though, oxygen machine didn't work, a big dresser crushed an old lady. Sad stuff.

[Mike Oxlong]

[TennoChinko]

In today's in-box:

[Yokohammer]

Hey we got our electricity back on about 30 minutes ago. But the Tohoku expressway is closed again because of some damage near Morioka. Not sure when that will be up and running again. Oh the joys of living in Tohoku these days. But the family is fine, no major damage, a few old people didn't make it though, oxygen machine didn't work, a big dresser crushed an old lady. Sad stuff.

Welcome back to the world of the wired, Canman.
We've regressed somewhat. They apparently found a leak in the water system somewhere, so we're now without water until they fix it. They haven't given us a time by when it'll be done, they just sort of said that water will be off "for a while." So who knows.

As you say: life in Tohoku these days.

[canman]

[Coligny]

[quote="canman"]Thanks hammer! Good to be back. But now I see two other nuclear facilities had major problems last night. I guess Tohoku Denryoku wants to get in on the fun!&#58381]

They have perfected their level of suckage to be on par with Tepco....

[Thug4Life]

Now here is one invention that is just in time for the coming famine in Japan:

[Yokohammer]

I can't believe that with only a shindo 3 earthquake they would lose all power.

You mean Onagawa? That was bigger than 3.
The official word from the Meteorological Agency is that it was higher than shindo 5- at Onagawa-cho, but they don't have an exact reading (i.e. it was big enough to screw up their equipment).

Still no water here. Just when I thought things were sort of getting back on track.

[Mike Oxlong]

Japan's Nuclear Meltdown, the Economic Meltdown, and the Gulf Oil Meltdown All Happened for the SAME REASON

[Coligny]

Japan's Nuclear Meltdown, the Economic Meltdown, and the Gulf Oil Meltdown All Happened for the SAME REASON

Fook...


You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Mike Oxlong again.

[legion]

Jimbo on the ground, these guys are the best reporters in Japan

videonewsdotcom

[pheyton]

Long video, but the last minute is just insane.

[Mulboyne]

55.4% of those confirmed killed by in the disaster were over 65 years old.

[Typhoon]

Japan's Nuclear Meltdown, the Economic Meltdown, and the Gulf Oil Meltdown All Happened for the SAME REASON

ZeroCreed, er, ZeroHedge predicting "it's the end of the world as we know it" every day in every way.

They managed to scare silly one very fucked gaijin

The comment sections are both hysterical and revealing.

Not difficult to imagine how much people would have complained about the exponential cost of building a reactor to withstand a once in a millennium 9.0 earthquake and 15 metre plus tsunami.

A 40 year old reactor, initially scheduled for decommissioning this year, was hit with such an event and did not turn into a second Chernobyl or worse.

Having said that senior TEPCO management covered themselves with something that certainly doesn't smell like glory with regards to their response.

[Yokohammer]

A 40 year old reactor, initially scheduled for decommissioning this year, was hit with such an event and did not turn into a second Chernobyl or worse.

It isn't over yet. It isn't under control yet.
We still don't know where this is going.

[Typhoon]

It isn't over yet. It isn't under control yet.
We still don't know where this is going.

Well, at this point the probability of another Chernobyl decreases, rather than increases, over time.

[Yokohammer]

Well, at this point the probability of another Chernobyl decreases, rather than increases, over time.

I have to disagree with this.
The longer it takes, the more contamination is spread around.
In the beginning it was "this isn't even as bad as Three Mile Island." It is now.
We have now well a and truly exceeded Three Mile Island contamination levels.
Chernobyl is just a matter of time.

The problem is cumulative, not explosive.

[legion]

I have to disagree with this.
The longer it takes, the more contamination is spread around.
In the beginning it was "this isn't even as bad as Three Mile Island." It is now.
We have now well a and truly exceeded Three Mile Island contamination levels.
Chernobyl is just a matter of time.

The problem is cumulative, not explosive.

background radiation in Tokyo is almost back to normal

Hino

it's been steadily dropping for the last 3 weeks, I have the page above set as my default homepage on the browser.

There will be issues with food, but unlike the USSR the Japanese are checking. The fact we know about the problems is a plus, the health issues following Chernobyl were caused by people being unaware.

Even the Brit Embassy has relaxed.

[Yokohammer]

background radiation in Tokyo is almost back to normal

it's been steadily dropping for the last 3 weeks, I have the page above set as my default homepage on the browser.

There will be issues with food, but unlike the USSR the Japanese are checking. The fact we know about the problems is a plus, the health issues following Chernobyl were caused by people being unaware.

Even the Brit Embassy has relaxed.

Yeah, yeah, I know. Radiation levels are dropping.
I'm not trying to be a fear monger, just realistic. TEPCO are still floundering around in the dark with their heads up their asses. The situation is not yet under control: controlled reactor cooling has not been restored, reactor damage cannot yet be accurately assessed, radiation leakage has not yet been contained, etc., etc. They've managed to turn on the lights in the control rooms. Whoop-de-fucking-doo. It is way too early to say that because radiation levels are dropping now, they will continue to decrease.

It ... is ... not ... over ... yet.

[Coligny]

Not difficult to imagine how much people would have complained about the exponential cost of building a reactor to withstand a once in a millennium 9.0 earthquake and 15 metre plus tsunami.

A 40 year old reactor, initially scheduled for decommissioning this year, was hit with such an event and did not turn into a second Chernobyl or worse.

Can we tune down a bit with the also silly cost-risk pseudo analysis.
"
The warning from the 2001 report about the 3,000-year history would prove to be most telling: "The recurrence interval for a large-scale tsunami is 800 to 1,100 years. More than 1,100 years have passed since the Jogan tsunami, and, given the reoccurrence interval, the possibility of a large tsunami striking the Sendai plain is high." "

Because if you really base your cost cutting behing statistics... at least try not to forget where you are in the curve... (If you say, no need to worry that happens only between every 800 to 1100 years and then some goons show you that last time it happend was 1100 ago or at the date of he construction 1050 year ago -well inside the stat hot zone- maybe you're... a bit... fucked...).

PLUS, you consider the cost of better protection as something that would have cost more and would have been reflected in electricity price. This without hard numbers is not really a honest viewpoint. Especially considering that it can also be seen the opposite way: The cost of proper strong tsunami/quake protection was reduced to increase company benefit. Judging by the ridiculous number of cheap dosimeter or protection gear for the workers it seems that penny pinching was the rule and absolutely not a well designed "cost risk" analysis.

PLUS, Fukushima was also granted a extension of it's exploitation lifespan (for 10 FOOKING YEARS) http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/22/world/asia/22nuclear.html

To finish, people were never offered any choice, so your first statement is quite dishonnest, they were just told is was safe /end of the story. Regulatory institution are supposed to step in to prevent dangerous cheapness. That's why you have mandatory seatbelt, that's why starting next year all car sold in europe must have mandatory ESP. When you do this you always have clowns popping out of the woods claiming it's just for equipement makers to make moar muney. In this case, seems those same clowns got the last word.

And before FGL tell us that people should learn to drive... YES that's one way of doing it... the same way Tepco should have known and prepared a bit more to handle a crisis knowing that the plant could not cope with an overdue cataclysmic event.

[Mike Oxlong]

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[Thug4Life]

Because the United States of Corporations does not want Japan's advanced electric car industry nor Japan's advanced solar power industry to succeed and save the world, they triggered the quake, tsunami and nuclear disaster with the Stuxnet virus and HAARP:

[Mike Oxlong]

Excessive radioactive cesium found in fish caught off Fukushima

[Coligny]

Because the United States of Corporations does not want Japan's advanced electric car industry nor Japan's advanced solar power industry to succeed and save the world, they triggered the quake, tsunami and nuclear disaster with the waaaargaaarrrrblllll:

And then we fell into complete madness...

[Mulboyne]

With people buying up everything in sight in the immediate aftermath of the quake, the average household became overstocked so sales of goods like rice and pasta are now running around 20-30% lower than pre-quake levels.

The Sankei estimates that demand for bottled water rose to 31x normal levels in the first week following the quake, cup noodles 14x, pasta 27x, batteries 16x and items like toilet paper by 30x.

Supply, on the other hand, also increased. Pasta by 3.6x, bottled water by 2.5x, rice by 2x, and cup noodles by 2.7x. because demand was running at such high levels, however, it never seemed as if supply had also exploded. Rather it looked to customers as if fewer deliveries were getting through than usual which only increased their willingness to buy if they saw something on the shelves.