Tohoku Earthquake, Tsunami and Nuclear Disaster!!!

[Typhoon]

Helen Calldicott is in the crank scale somewhere between Debito and Benny Fulford. I've always wondered how much funding she lost after the fall of the Soviet Union?

1/ The major source of man-made radiation is medical imaging, which save countless lives, as per the image below (15%).



2/ The phenomena of radiation hormesis - the neutral to beneficial effects of low level radiation - is now experimentally and empirically well documented .

http://goo.gl/3LgOE

http://goo.gl/dTXMO

http://goo.gl/X5wuc

http://goo.gl/3zrRm

[Typhoon]

You seems to have missed one of the implied rule of this thread:

Daguerreotype... or it didn't happen.
Source... or it's just hearsay.

Because, what is shown in this video seems 1- quite legit 2- nothing really out of the ordinary 3- just a backyard demo of something that all source have said is happening in the reactors core: sh1t overheat, is unceremoniously cooled, break, more stuff melt. (more or less)

Here, more on the TMI zyrconium oxydation event:
http://books.google.com/books?id=XIr7EouuelUC&pg=PA26&lpg=PA26&dq=zirconium+overheat+oxidation&source=bl&ots=f2_TY4gDuB&sig=HbCG-40rA456S1zDf9O-6-FYQho&hl=en&ei=YayjTba7G4TCvQPp_IiTCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CEEQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=zirconium%20overheat%20oxidation&f=false

Arnie Gundersen has inflated his resume

[Catoneinutica]

1/ The major source of man-made radiation is medical imaging, which save countless lives, as per the image below (15%).



2/ The phenomena of radiation hormesis - the neutral to beneficial effects of low level radiation - is now experimentally and empirically well documented .

http://goo.gl/3LgOE

http://goo.gl/dTXMO

http://goo.gl/X5wuc

http://goo.gl/3zrRm

Yeah, it'd be pretty silly to forgo the benefits of early detection of cancer because of fears over the radiation dose you'd get from a CAT scan (still, ceteris paribus, choose an MRI). And speaking of radon, basement dwelling will give you a heapin' helpin' of it.

[rooboy]

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Scores of schools in South Korea closed over fears of radioactive rain
Daily Mail
Scores of schools in South Korea were closed Thursday as teachers and parents panicked over fears that falling rain could be carrying radiation from Japan's crippled nuclear plant...more...


outdated projection of fallout

Thats an authentic pic taken in Seoul (less). Jerks. Nothing fabricated about the story, real newspapers reported on it including in the Land of the Morning Hysteria. These little fuckwits probably also have signs telling the world Koreans have the Number 1 average IQ in the world.

Wait - look, there's Samurai Jerk in the front row!

[Takechanpoo]

even in Suginami ward, Tokyo........
not a little radioactive materials fell and piled up already....

[Iraira]

Thats an authentic pic taken in Seoul (less). Jerks. Nothing fabricated about the story, real newspapers reported on it including in the Land of the Morning Hysteria. These little fuckwits probably also have signs telling the world Koreans have the Number 1 average IQ in the world.

Wait - look, there's Samurai Jerk in the front row!

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

FWIW, about this time in 2007 I wrote (and unsuccessfully tried to get published) a Japan-based, post-apocolyptic novel that makes me feel like fucking Nostradamus now.
It was a thriller (with few thrills) where the main character was a transsexual and national star in a matriarchal Japan as he was one of the few remaining men capable of gaining an erection following a chain reaction of exploding nuclear power plants (I got the location wrong, picking the Japan/East Sea coastline), and he was wanted for committing murder by cunnilingus on the cuntry's (female) prime minister.
Why am I posting this here? The Japanese solution for all the radiation spewing into the atmosphere in my book was to build massive fans and blow it all across the East Sea and onto the Asian mainland....
Otherwise, everything else in the book was pretty much fiction with some factual incidents thrown in... Bummer though, anybody who'd published it then would have been rolling in cash by now. I actually got the idea from Bobby Fischer during one of his rants against "cocksucking Koizumi."

[Coligny]

Arnie Gundersen has inflated his resume

Yea, but that does not make him as much as a scam as previously said...

His demo in the video appears to be still valid, even if he was enjoying to kill puppies as a hobby...

especially after reading these kind of statement...

"Gundersen is a man who uses a pair of 39-year-old university degrees to claim the title of "nuclear engineer" so that he can get paid $300 per hour to seek to destroy valuable assets like Vermont Yankee." eyes of the beholder and all... Sounds like the same strawman as the vulnerability of daiichi... cost-benefit yada yada to justify insuficient protection, insuficient contingency planning, insuficient... idea aboot what to do, insuficient willingness to call for help and on and on and on... somes excuses can't be used more than once...

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

I was wondering how long it would take for those scums to creep out of the mud...

I'd heard a rumor that the quake actually arose when the comfortably buil Scientologists John Revolta and Kelly Preston simultaneously jumped on a couch to celebrate news of her pregnancy...

[CrankyBastard]

After a slow, start Japan managed to equalize with the Yanks at 5 all.
A sudden spurt sent them to a neck and neck race with the Soviets.
The score is now tied at 7 all.
Ganbare Nippon!!

[Yokohammer]

It will be interesting* if a new INES level has to be created for the Fukushima accident.

That'll be a big "win" for Japan.

*[SIZE="1"]I mean that in the most negative way possible.[/SIZE]

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

It will be interesting* if a new INES level has to be created for the Fukushima accident.

That'll be a big "win" for Japan.

*[SIZE="1"]I mean that in the most negative way possible.[/SIZE]

I thought INES was that French bird that keeps turning Japanese stunnes into Miss World contenders...I suppose now it'll be harder if they've all got three eyes and tits growing out of the backs of their knees, but, then again, there have been Tasmanian-born contenders in the past if I recall correctly...

[Coligny]

I thought INES was that French bird that keeps turning Japanese stunnes into Miss World contenders...I suppose now it'll be harder if they've all got three eyes and tits growing out of the backs of their knees, but, then again, there have been Tasmanian-born contenders in the past if I recall correctly...

You mean that babe ? : In&#232] Marie Lætitia Églantine Isabelle de Seignard de La [I]Fressange (Yeah, some of us are still more or less fans of cumulative patronyms, for now I can go up to five only... should nevar had married a commoner...)

Or the Miss France shemale organiser (not safe for your eyes:) ?

[damn name]

"'The radiation leak has not stopped completely and our concern is that it could eventually exceed Chernobyl,' an official from operator Tokyo Electric and Power told reporters on Tuesday."

These exact words have appeared in almost every newspaper in the world. Who said this? Did anyone see or hear a news conference with this being said today? The earliest I have seen is from Reuters at 12:30 pm Tokyo time Tuesday. http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/12/japan-nuclear-radiation-idUSTKE00635920110412


Edit: I just found it.

"'If the leaks continue, the amount of radioactivity released in Fukushima could eventually exceed the amount emitted by Chernobyl', a possibility that Naoki Tsunoda, a TEPCO spokesman, said the company considers 'extremely low.'" -- AP report

That sounds different to me than what was quoted worldwide. http://apnews.myway.com/article/20110412/D9MI2HB00.html

[omae mona]

That sounds different to me than what was quoted worldwide. http://apnews.myway.com/article/20110412/D9MI2HB00.html

Stop spoiling our fun. This is worse than Chernobyl. Who's paying you to cover it up?

[damn name]

I just checked their unit conversions (TEPCO had some problems with that earlier) and it seems reasonable. Chernobyl continued to generate massive daily amounts for 10 days, while Fukushima release was strong on March 15 when the No. 2 suppression chamber breached, and a smaller peak on March 20.

The amount being generated now is very small.


(Added)
Here are some new photos from inside the facility, including RC equipment used in clean up, quake damage, etc.

http://cryptome.org/eyeball/daiichi-npp5/daiichi-photos5.htm

http://cryptome.org/eyeball/daiichi-npp6/daiichi-photos6.htm

[FG Lurker]

"'If the leaks continue, the amount of radioactivity released in Fukushima could eventually exceed the amount emitted by Chernobyl', a possibility that Naoki Tsunoda, a TEPCO spokesman, said the company considers 'extremely low.'" -- AP report

That sounds different to me than what was quoted worldwide. http://apnews.myway.com/article/20110412/D9MI2HB00.html

"Japanese officials said the leaks from the Fukushima plant so far amount to a tenth of the radiation emitted in the Chernobyl disaster, but said they eventually could exceed Chernobyl's emissions if the crisis continues."

If in fact the radiation emitted in Fukushima is 1/10th that of Chernobyl then it looks to me like Chernobyl was way, way off the INES scale. How can a disaster that pumped out 10x the radiation have the same rating? Perhaps the INES should create a broader scale with Chernobyl at ~70 vs the current 7 of Fukushima.

[Coligny]

Strontium found in ground and vegetation around fukushima (to complement the iode, cesium and plutonium)...

Link in french... (solly)

http://lenergiedavancer.com/des-traces-de-strontium-un-element-radioactif-produit-par-la-fission-nucleaire-relevees-a-fukushima/2011/04/12/

Source not that wonderfull...

[Ganma]

[Catoneinutica]

Strontium found in ground and vegetation around fukushima (to complement the iode, cesium and plutonium)...

Link in french... (solly)

http://lenergiedavancer.com/des-traces-de-strontium-un-element-radioactif-produit-par-la-fission-nucleaire-relevees-a-fukushima/2011/04/12/

Source not that wonderfull...

English link:

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/slight-amounts-strontium-found-near-crippled-japan-nuclear-20110412-041822-802.html

[Thug4Life]

[SIZE="5"]Fukushima worker says the situation is 'catastrophic'
[/SIZE]

[damn name]

Just for reference, here are some sites:

Release, dispersion and deposition of radionuclides at Chernobyl: http://www.oecd-nea.org/rp/chernobyl/c02.html

NISA release of information: http://www.nisa.meti.go.jp/english/files/en20110412-4.pdf

[damn name]

[SIZE="1"]Fukushima worker says the situation is 'catastrophic'
[/SIZE]

"The uploader has not made this video available in your country."

[FG Lurker]

"The uploader has not made this video available in your country."

I get that when I try to view the embedded video but if you click through to YouTube it seems to work ok. You're not missing anything though, just more fear mongering.

[damn name]

Thanks FG Lurker.

[Coligny]

[Ganma]

Here's the News on Level 7. My question is, if Fukushima has only produced 10% of the radiation levels of Chernobyl, why do they get the same level rating? Seems like they need to rethink how to rate the levels.

[legion]

Here's the News on Level 7. My question is, if Fukushima has only produced 10% of the radiation levels of Chernobyl, why do they get the same level rating?

It's just disaster envy.

Russians had big, explosive rods, the Japanese just have leaky ones

[Uhhuh35]

Fukushima worker says the situation is 'catastrophic'

Why are you trusting the "opinions" of the Fukushima workers over the experts here at FG?

[cujojpn]

I mean since were talking Chernobyl and evacuations. Do you guys think people who lived in the 20-30km radius will ever be able to go back home? Or will villages and towns within the zone become another Pripyat?