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How to understand Tesla's ideas

Postby Russell » Thu May 12, 2011 1:05 pm

Thug4Life wrote:Basically, this means that, with the exception of oil and gas, no other types of power are permitted to be developed and proliferate as an alternative. Why you ask? Well that is the murderous nature of neoliberalism or monopoly capitalism. And this can be seen more clearly in the tale of a brilliant man named Nikolai Tesla who had the vision of free power for the whole world. But because of this, Tesla was ultimately ostracized and regarded as a mad scientist by many late in his life. Therefore, instead of a free or a more efficient type of energy, we now have one quarter of the world's population consuming three quarters of the yearly energy output. And that is essentially the reason why we have had and still have so many illegal and bloody wars.

And despite Tesla being ostracized, shortly before he died, Thomas Edison said that "his biggest mistake had been in trying to develop direct current, rather than the superior alternating current system that Tesla had put within his grasp."

So, hopefully in this lesson you now have begun to understand the current situation at Fukushima and how the world is being destroyed by monopoly capitalism and the nuclear power industry. However, if you have any further questions or confusion, just let me know and I will dumb it down for you.


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Actually, if you had bothered to look deeper into the "free energy" of Tesla, you would have discovered that he meant that it could be tapped freely by everyone from the ether, after being put there by his Transmitter; he definitely did NOT mean that the energy could be put in the ether for free. There would need to be a generating utility that would use fuels (fossile, nuclear, etc) in the first place. The reason why he had problems to find investors for this idea is that you cannot charge customers for electricity if they can pull it out of the air for free...

So much for your expertise.
Now, let's talk about Fukushima, or rather not.........
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Postby Typhoon » Thu May 12, 2011 1:30 pm

Thug4Life wrote:Basically, this means that, with the exception of oil and gas, no other types of power are permitted to be developed and proliferate as an alternative. Why you ask? Well that is the murderous nature of neoliberalism or monopoly capitalism. And this can be seen more clearly in the tale of a brilliant man named Nikolai Tesla who had the vision of free power for the whole world. But because of this, Tesla was ultimately ostracized and regarded as a mad scientist by many late in his life. Therefore, instead of a free or a more efficient type of energy, we now have one quarter of the world's population consuming three quarters of the yearly energy output. And that is essentially the reason why we have had and still have so many illegal and bloody wars.


Tesla's real achievements, AC power generation and long distance transmission, revolutionized industrial society.

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He could be called the modern Prometheus.

However, his system of long distance wireless power transmission using his Tesla coil was flawed. The losses over distance are too great for it to have been workable never mind cost effective. That he misrepresented his efforts as development of radio to his investors did not help his situation.

As for conspiracy, the only conspiracy was by Edison to discredit AC power in favour of his own DC power transmission system which would have required power stations every few city blocks. Physics, engineering, and costs guaranteed the Edison would eventually lose.

Before you presume to be in a position to "dumb it down" for someone, it's best to have some clue about what you're talking about. And it's painfully obvious that you don't.
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Thu May 12, 2011 1:42 pm

Thug4Life posted so many gems on here I don't even know where to begin. I can't tell if he has a paranoid personality disorder of if he's just a master troll. If it's the latter, Thug, I applaud you. If it's the former, I suggest therapy ASAP.
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Postby Thug4Life » Thu May 12, 2011 2:54 pm

Typhoon wrote:However, his system of long distance wireless power transmission using his Tesla coil was flawed. The losses over distance are too great for it to have been workable never mind cost effective. That he misrepresented his efforts as development of radio to his investors did not help his situation.



Uuuummm, nooooo, sorry but you are just completely incorrect once again. The fact is that in 1897/98 Tesla experimented with wireless transmission of electric energy and he demonstrated how he could remotely control ships. Also Tesla demonstrated the illumination of wireless lamps by energy that was coupled to them through an alternating electric field. You can read all about it and you will maybe get a clue here: Wireless energy transfer

Anyway, whether Tesla was right or wrong is beside the point that I knew you wouldn't get as I previously warned you:

Now, this next part will be a bit more difficult for you to fully grasp, but I hope that you can at least begin to understand it.


and then:

Basically, this means that, with the exception of oil and gas, no other types of power are permitted to be developed and proliferate as an alternative.


Dumbed down translation: Oil companies and nuclear power companies are the only kinds of companies that are allowed ("permitted") to produce and distribute power in large proportions ("significant amounts") of energy. No one else, including Tesla, has ever been legally and financially permitted to produce an alternative, and more efficient form of energy.

Please post anymore questions that you all may have in your confused and disillusioned minds. Thank you.

P.S. Yokohammer, your problem is that you're in a disillusioned state of denial. And the simple facts are that if you stay there in Sendai, you're probably going to be diagnosed with some serious kind of incurable cancer within the next 10 to 12 months. And I don't mean to scare you. On the contrary, I am trying to help you to understand this as even small doses of ionizing radiation can be lethal. Think about it.
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Postby Kuang_Grade » Thu May 12, 2011 3:00 pm

Thug4Life wrote:Basically, this means that, with the exception of oil and gas, no other types of power are permitted to be developed and proliferate as an alternative. Why you ask? Well that is the murderous nature of neoliberalism or monopoly capitalism. And this can be seen more clearly in the tale of a brilliant man named Nikolai Tesla who had the vision of free power for the whole world. But because of this, Tesla was ultimately ostracized and regarded as a mad scientist by many late in his life. Therefore, instead of a free or a more efficient type of energy, we now have one quarter of the world's population consuming three quarters of the yearly energy output. And that is essentially the reason why we have had and still have so many illegal and bloody wars.

Wow, a 19th century inventor makes all sorts of crazy promises to get funding for his research that then don't pan out and that's proof of a multi-century conspiracy?...come on man, you got to sex up the story a bit more....Throw in some aliens, or the trilateral commission, or free masons, or black helicopters. At least try to work in something about Lycans or Vampires.

Wake up moron, coal is the primary energy source for electricity for most of the planet and commercial nuclear power is only used for electricity generation. While oil ranks #1 in energy consumption, about 85-95% of that is related to transportation. I also didn't realize that this secret NWO army was executing everyone who tries to burn peat or build a hydroelectric dam. If one was to stick with your theory, the NWO would be occupying West Virginia, not trying to control the middle east. Or is there another global conspiracy to keep the nuclear car off the market?

Thug4Life wrote:And despite Tesla being ostracized, shortly before he died, Thomas Edison said that "his biggest mistake had been in trying to develop direct current, rather than the superior alternating current system that Tesla had put within his grasp.
Yeah, Edison's biggest regret is that he picked the wrong horse and lost to his arch business rival, Westinghouse (as well as losing significant amounts of money in the process) because he was too enamored with his own research to see the drawbacks with DC as a commercialized product. So Telsa's AC electricity became the effective world standard and that's proof that he was somehow held in check by a secret world conspiracy? Pick one side and stick with it...You can't have Telsa being shut down by the NWO in one paragraph and then have his tech become the world standard in the next.
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Postby Yokohammer » Thu May 12, 2011 3:30 pm

Thug4Life wrote:P.S. Yokohammer, your problem is that you're in a disillusioned state of denial. And the simple facts are that if you stay there in Sendai, you're probably going to be diagnosed with some serious kind of incurable cancer within the next 10 to 12 months. And I don't mean to scare you. On the contrary, I am trying to help you to understand this as even small doses of ionizing radiation can be lethal. Think about it.

"The simple facts" ... oh puh-leeze ...

You're telling me that I'm going to get some kind of incurable cancer in the next 10 to 12 months. That's a very irresponsible and frankly stupid thing to say. And adding "And I don't mean to scare you" makes it even stupider, because you obviously do.

You're "just trying to help me understand" are you? I guess I didn't make myself clear a couple of posts ago, because that's another pompous, condescending assumption on your part.

Please describe the professional credentials that qualify you to make that statement. You know, your PhD in medicine. No? Your degree in radiation science. No? Physics? Ah, gee, well ...

What, pray tell, makes you think you're qualified to "help me understand" anything at all? Or anyone else here, or on any other forum?

For that matter ... do you have a college/university degree in anything at all? Anything? Are you even an accredited English teacher?

Let me know where that great and superior wisdom of yours is coming from and I might be tempted to listen. But as it stands, I'm just laughing.

"The simple facts" ... I can't get over how pretentious that is. I think wuchan might be right. We might actually have an exemplary case of Dunning-Kruger right here.
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Postby Russell » Thu May 12, 2011 3:39 pm

Thug4Life wrote:Anyway, whether Tesla was right or wrong is beside the point ...


Why then did you mention him?

Thug4Life wrote:P.S. Yokohammer, your problem is that you're in a disillusioned state of denial. And the simple facts are that if you stay there in Sendai, you're probably going to be diagnosed with some serious kind of incurable cancer within the next 10 to 12 months. And I don't mean to scare you. On the contrary, I am trying to help you to understand this as even small doses of ionizing radiation can be lethal. Think about it.


I take it you will apologize to Yokohammer if he does not develop any of your imagined diseases within the stated time periods?
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Postby cstaylor » Thu May 12, 2011 4:03 pm

Typhoon wrote:The losses over distance are too great for it to have been workable never mind cost effective.

Those pesky laws of electromagnetism like inverse-square sure put a damper on things. :wink:

Don't forget Edison's ingenious PR stunt for showing the danger of AC transmission: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_chair
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New water leaks at Japan nuclear plant

Postby Mike Oxlong » Thu May 12, 2011 4:19 pm

THE operator of Japan's stricken Fukushima nuclear plant has reported new problems, including a water leak from a reactor vessel and another spill of contaminated water into the ocean

The warning by Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO) came as emergency crews battled to bring the tsunami-hit and radiation-leaking plant into stable "cold shutdown" some time between October and January.

TEPCO said new measurements taken this week, after workers in protective suits fixed gauges in the badly-hit reactor one building, indicated that water pumped into the pressure vessel had quickly leaked out...
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Postby Russell » Thu May 12, 2011 4:21 pm

cstaylor wrote:Don't forget Edison's ingenious PR stunt for showing the danger of AC transmission: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_chair


You forgot the following link in Edison's PR stunt: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topsy_(elephant)

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A means of execution (of Topsy the elephant) initially discussed was hanging. However, the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals protested and other ways were considered. Edison then suggested electrocution with alternating current, which had been used for the execution of humans since 1890.[3]

To reinforce the execution, Topsy was fed carrots laced with 460 grams of potassium cyanide before the deadly current from a 6,600-volt AC source was sent coursing through her body.


There is also a video on YouTube of the event. All a bit sick, though.
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Postby Mike Oxlong » Thu May 12, 2011 4:21 pm

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Postby CrankyBastard » Thu May 12, 2011 4:23 pm

Thug4Life wrote:I understand that for some people it may be difficult to comprehend what Dr. Robert Jacobs (who is a Research Associate Professor of Nuclear History and Culture in Hiroshima, Japan) said as he does speak pretty fast. And since it is clear that English is not your first language or you have just been in the now very dirty Dishpan for way too long and cannot keep up with the native English level of speaking anymore, I have transcribed the most significant ("important") parts that Dr. Robert Jacobs said in the above video for your review and ESL benkyou:

2:04 - "Well this is a reflection of the incredibly small amount of information that even Tepco and the Japanese government are operating with. Just in the last day or two the government entered for the first time since the accident happened entered into reactor #1. And the idea was that they were going to vent out the radiation that was contained in the building and begin to install a new cooling system. But once they entered into the building they found that the levels inside were so high that it became impossible to work there. They're now at such a high level that one worker working for ten minutes will receive a lifetime dose of exposure. So, clearly, Tepco and the government are still in the process of just beginning to learn what are the current conditions so it's very hard to solve these problems when you don't really know what the sources of the radiation are."

3:27 - "And now just tonight actually in a release of information from the Japanese government they have confirmed that they're has been work started yesterday to shore up the structure of the building and specifically the upper floor. Now in this reactor you have the spent fuel pool that is a much larger spent fuel pool it has fuel rods from 3-4 reactors in there. And this part of the building is beginning to lean and because of the explosion of reactor 3 there is some questions about the structural integrity of the building of reactor 4. And if that were to collapse, you would have all the fuel in that spent fuel pool just scattered about on the ground. And outside of increasing a very, very high level of contamination, you would also have radiation rise to levels that would make it very problematic for workers to continue to work on the site at all."

4:36 - "In these situations managing public opinion is as serious an operation as managing the crisis itself. What you have here in Fukushima is you have four reactors that are all still emitting significant amounts of radiation into the environment. So this is not a situation that has been brought under control, it is a situation in which large releases have been, ah largely, the explosions of the first week have been gone past but now we just have ongoing leakage. So to continue to tell people about that leakage and to continue to provide a lot of information about about that leakage, will cause higher levels of distress and also the perception that neither Tepco nor the government is in control of the situations. So it's a lot easier to just reduce the information that the public has so that you are able to control the situation at least from the point of view of public opinion and keep people from panicking."

I really hope that this helps you in your struggle to begin to understand what is really happening right now. But if you have some questions, need a more detailed explanation or wish to have more of the video transcribed for you, just let me know.

Cheers! :D


Oh, Man, that's some scary shit.
Thug4Life, you think I should do something? I mean I don't understand all the radiation hype stuff.
Let me know asap!
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Postby waruta » Thu May 12, 2011 10:54 pm

Nuclear meltdown at Fukushima plant

One of the reactors at the crippled Fukushima Daiichi power plant did suffer a nuclear meltdown, Japanese officials admitted for the first time today, describing a pool of molten fuel at the bottom of the reactor's containment vessel.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/8509502/Nuclear-meltdown-at-Fukushima-plant.html
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Postby dimwit » Thu May 12, 2011 11:59 pm

CrankyBastard wrote:Oh, Man, that's some scary shit.
Thug4Life, you think I should do something? I mean I don't understand all the radiation hype stuff.
Let me know asap!
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I think we should send in the sociologists. They can save the day.
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5/12/2011 -- BREAKING NEWS !! NILU - Norsk Institute = ZARDO

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http://zardoz.nilu.no/~flexpart/fpinteractive/plots/?C=M;O=D
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Postby Tsuru » Fri May 13, 2011 12:35 am

Oh no! We're all going to die!
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Postby Thug4Life » Fri May 13, 2011 12:43 am

Yup. Glad to see at least one of you here has finally figured that out. Pardon the cliche, but this time the sky is, literally, falling.
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Postby Crystal Skull » Fri May 13, 2011 12:48 am

Thug4Life wrote:Yup. Glad to see at least one of you here has finally figured that out. Pardon the cliche, but this time the sky is, literally, falling.


Did I tell you about the time I went to Tokyo Tower?...oh yes, I did...shall I tell you again? :D
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Postby Tsuru » Fri May 13, 2011 1:27 am

Thug4Life wrote:Yup. Glad to see at least one of you here has finally figured that out. Pardon the cliche, but this time the sky is, literally, falling.
"On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero."
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Postby Typhoon » Fri May 13, 2011 1:52 am

Thug4Life wrote:Yup. Glad to see at least one of you here has finally figured that out. Pardon the cliche, but this time the sky is, literally, falling.


It won't be the end of the world, just the end of you.
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Postby Coligny » Fri May 13, 2011 1:55 am

Typhoon wrote:It won't be the end of the world, just the end of you.


Seriously guys, why you keep answering this dunce ? I know it's fun to toy around with retards but after some times it just look cruel, like stealing lunch from the kid with down syndrome...
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Postby wuchan » Fri May 13, 2011 1:58 am

Thug4Life wrote:Yup. Glad to see at least one of you here has finally figured that out. Pardon the cliche, but this time the sky is, literally, falling.



ok you are far beyond the dunning-kruger effect, shit you are almost full herp-derp.
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Postby Typhoon » Fri May 13, 2011 2:17 am

Coligny wrote:Seriously guys, why you keep answering this dunce ? I know it's fun to toy around with retards but after some times it just look cruel, like stealing lunch from the kid with down syndrome...


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Info about alternative energy suppression

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Fukushima I Nuke Plant: Reactor 1's RPV Has Hardly Any Water

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Postby Yokohammer » Fri May 13, 2011 6:05 am

Coligny wrote:Seriously guys, why you keep answering this dunce ? I know it's fun to toy around with retards but after some times it just look cruel, like stealing lunch from the kid with down syndrome...

You're right. It's getting predictable and boring. I'm done.
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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Fri May 13, 2011 6:32 am

Thug4Life wrote:Where has the water gone?


My guess is that it's being poured into plastic bottles and sold for a shitload of money to wankers too fulll of themselves to drink water from the tap...
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Postby CrankyBastard » Fri May 13, 2011 6:40 am

Yokohammer wrote:You're right. It's getting predictable and boring. I'm done.


I'm not.
His postings are responsible for the ruination of three sets of underwear.
I deserve compensation.
He deserves to take responsibility for his actions.
Just because he's about as sharp as a pound of raw liver, doesn't mean he should get off lightly!
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Postby Yokohammer » Fri May 13, 2011 6:49 am

CrankyBastard wrote:I'm not.
His postings are responsible for the ruination of three sets of underwear.
I deserve compensation.
He deserves to take responsibility for his actions.
Just because he's about as sharp as a pound of raw liver, doesn't mean he should get off lightly!
:p

Cranky, Thuggy is a Justin Bieber fan (http://www.fuckedgaijin.com/forums/showthread.php?p=272897#post272897). Justin Bieber is a 17-year-old pop idol. That makes Thuggy a child who can't be held responsible for his words or actions.

I should have known ... wasted my time trying to talk to a fucking kid. Fucking Internet.
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