Tohoku Earthquake, Tsunami and Nuclear Disaster!!!

[Coligny]

http://www.who-sucks.com/people/arnie-gundersen-for-profit-anti-nuclear-activist
http://atomicinsights.com/2011/02/arnie-gundersen-has-inflated-his-resume-yet-frequently-claims-that-entergy-cannot-be-trusted.html

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Not that I side with T4L but for Arnie Gundersen, the smearing campain is getting old. I have yet to see real rebutal of what he says against the daily calls to burn him as a witch because his socks don't match his tie...

if he was so full of hot hair maybe that by now, rebuttal based on facts would have emerged instead of rebuttal based on the fact that people don't like him or what he has been preaching for years...

[dimwit]

I am beginning to assume that T4L is autistic as doesn't respond to anything, he just keeps posting shit. Sort of reminds me of another old Chinese member with a fascination for Tosa dogs.

[legion]

Arnie Gundersen - "It is impossible not to die after becoming contaminated and breathing in hot particles from Fukushima."

Death and taxes are generally thought to be unavoidable.

The tidal wave killed over 20,000 people.

[Greji]

The tidal wave killed over 20,000 people.

Thug was right of course. The rest of us are going to die sooner, or later.....

[Coligny]

Thug was right of course. The rest of us are going to die sooner, or later.....

I can have your stuff ?

[matsuki]

The Ministry of Education and Science is really quick when it comes to Tokyo.. (Or should I say Setagaya-ku?)

It looks like the shoppers at this particular supermarket have been zapped with high radiation for at least 11 years, if what the Ministry says is true (that there is the radiation source buried).

A small problem, though. The same radiation source should be also buried beneath the sidewalk, which measured 110 microsieverts/hour on the surface.

Additional information of the high radiation supermarket in Setagaya-ku.

From Jiji Tsushin (5:29AM JST 10/29/2011):

Loser4Life BS aside, it's pretty interesting to see all these non-3/11 related hotspots and shit popping up. Now that Geiger counters seem to be the new normal on Keitais, I suspect alot more of this assery being brought to light.

[Greji]

I can have your stuff ?

I've got a couple of bar tabs I could leave to you....

[Coligny]

I've got a couple of bar tabs I could leave to you....

you sound like my mom...

[Yokohammer]

Loser4Life BS aside, it's pretty interesting to see all these non-3/11 related hotspots and shit popping up. Now that Geiger counters seem to be the new normal on Keitais, I suspect alot more of this assery being brought to light.

Yup, it could get interesting. So far at least two cases of high radiation levels that are not even remotely related to Fukushima have popped up. Expect a few (like, lots) more, to the point that it'll cease to be news anymore.

The 90-yeard old lady who lived in a house with bottles of radium under the floorboards emitting 600 µSv/h (at their surface) for 58 years without suffering any adverse effects kind of points to where this might be going.

I suspect that if geiger counters became day-to-day personal accessories for people in other countries we'd see much of the same thing there too.

[Thug4Life]

Dr. Helen Caldicott on Fukushima and the Perils of Nuclear Power

Earth Focus: Australian physician, author, and anti-nuclear activist Helen Caldicott discusses with Earth Focus correspondent Miles Benson what the Fukushima disaster really means for the health and future of the people of Japan. Dr. Caldicott also explains the links between nuclear power and public health in the United States and Europe. Dr. Caldicott received her medical degree from the University of Adelaide Medical School. In 1977, she joined the staff of Children's Hospital Medical Center in Boston and taught pediatrics at the Harvard Medical School from 1977 to 1978. She served as President of Physicians for Social Responsibility, an organization of 23,000 doctors committed to educating others on the dangers of nuclear energy from 1978-1983. She also worked to establish similar groups focused on education about the risks of nuclear energy, nuclear weapons and nuclear war. One such group, International Physicians for Prevention of Nuclear War was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 1985. She is the author of seven books including: Nuclear Madness (1979); Missile Envy (1984); If You Love This Planet: A Plan to Heal the Earth (1992 and 2009); The New Nuclear Danger: George W. Bush's Military Industrial Complex (2001 and 2004) and Nuclear Power is Not the Answer to Global Warming or Anything Else (2006). The Smithsonian Institution named Dr. Caldicott as one of the most influential women of the 20th century.

[Coligny]

[quote="Yokohammer"]The 90-yeard old lady who lived in a house with bottles of radium under the floorboards emitting 600 &#181]

Which lead us to our regular consideration. There are quite a lot of unknown... a lot of vested interests... a lot of ass covering...

But in fine, in first world countries... for matters of public health... the proper modus operandi is "when you don't know, better safe than sorry" The textbook exact opposite of what we are going through until now...

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

But in fine, in first world countries... for matters of public health... the proper modus operandi is "when you don't know, better safe than sorry" The textbook exact opposite of what we are going through until now...

I'm not sticking up for Japan's reaction by any means and I'd dearly love to be agreeing with you, but I'd love to know a single first-world cuntry where inhabitants haven't caused some sort of environmental fuck-up (and shitting on McDonald's floors or pissing in airplane aisles don't count....)

[Samurai_Jerk]

A Japanese government panel says it will take at least 30 years to safely close the tsunami-hobbled Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear power plant, even though the facility is leaking far less radiation than before and is considered relatively stable. ...

The panel noted that it took 10 years to remove nuclear fuel after the 1979 Three Mile Island accident in the United States, and suggested that the process at Fukushima would be much more complicated and time-consuming. ...

But extensive repairs and safety measures must still be carried out. The panel said removal of the fuel rods at Fukushima would not begin until 2021, after the repair of the plant's containment vessels. ...

While the worst appears to be over, recent discoveries of radiation "hot spots" in and around Tokyo have caused fears among people there, with many concerned parents routinely checking their neighborhoods for radiation.

In most cases, the readings have been below internationally accepted annual limits, but critics say that the standard exceeds Japan's cap before the accident and that the government should expand the scope of decontamination. ...

http://news.yahoo.com/experts-30-years-till-japan-close-nuke-plant-031301877.html

[Coligny]

I'm not sticking up for Japan's reaction by any means and I'd dearly love to be agreeing with you, but I'd love to know a single first-world cuntry where inhabitants haven't caused some sort of environmental fuck-up (and shitting on McDonald's floors or pissing in airplane aisles don't count....)

New famous quote:

FUCK YOU, I'M FRENCH... zziiiiiiip... WWWEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeee......


B.O.T. Lichtenstein... maybeeee

[Mike Oxlong]

I think Fiji gained some notoriety via one of their finest pissing in the aisle of an airplane (I think it was actually on a Japanese passenger...)

[Iraira]

A Japanese government panel says it will take at least 30 years to safely close the tsunami-hobbled Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear power plant...

Maybe they should just fire it up again, as is....I mean, I surely don't want my electricity bill to skyrocket. The big holes in the building will let enough air in to keep everyone and everything cool on those balmy summer nights......

[LesTalk]

Fukushima will take 30 years to decommission.

A Japanese government panel says it will take at least 30 years to safely close the tsunami-hobbled Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear power plant, even though the facility is leaking far less radiation than before and is considered relatively stable.

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But extensive repairs and safety measures must still be carried out. The panel said removal of the fuel rods at Fukushima would not begin until 2021, after the repair of the plant's containment vessels.

http://news.yahoo.com/experts-30-years-till-japan-close-nuke-plant-031301877.html


Plenty of time to spawn the next Godzilla, or at the least, more of this:



or this:

[SIZE="3"]Experts: 30 years till Japan can close nuke plant[/SIZE]

A Japanese government panel says it will take at least 30 years to safely close the tsunami-hobbled Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear power plant, even though the facility is leaking far less radiation than before and is considered relatively stable. ...

The panel noted that it took 10 years to remove nuclear fuel after the 1979 Three Mile Island accident in the United States, and suggested that the process at Fukushima would be much more complicated and time-consuming. ...

But extensive repairs and safety measures must still be carried out. The panel said removal of the fuel rods at Fukushima would not begin until 2021, after the repair of the plant's containment vessels. ...

While the worst appears to be over, recent discoveries of radiation "hot spots" in and around Tokyo have caused fears among people there, with many concerned parents routinely checking their neighborhoods for radiation.

In most cases, the readings have been below internationally accepted annual limits, but critics say that the standard exceeds Japan's cap before the accident and that the government should expand the scope of decontamination. ...

http://news.yahoo.com/experts-30-years-till-japan-close-nuke-plant-031301877.html

[Bucky]

Plenty of time to spawn the next Godzilla, or at the least, more of this:



or this:

Those fish look a little old to be mutated from Fukushima-related radiation. They look older than seven or fewer months old to me. Or are these pix just for emphasis?

[LesTalk]

Those fish look a little old to be mutated from Fukushima-related radiation. They look older than seven or fewer months old to me. Or are these pix just for emphasis?

Amusement value only. Although the first one was caught in a nuclear power-plant cooling water reservoir,... in Argentina.

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

Fukushima will take 30 years to decommission.

Oh, Fuck...ushima.

[Coligny]

Fukushima will take 30 years to decommission.

I think that' the optimistic prevision if they really do the job.

Prettty sure some Yak can get them a good deal to clean up and forget everything in 10 year and for the same price they even put a brand new kindergarden on top...

[Yokohammer]

Basically, they can take as long as they damn well please as long as no more radiation is spread around in the process.

[Coligny]

Basically, they can take as long as they damn well please as long as no more radiation is spread around in the process.

Actually...

NO...

REALLY NO... NOT AT ALL...

Seems that if the molten core continue heading toward the center of the earth it will soon reach the water table. High temperature separate hydrogen from steam... And you got a big bundle of underground hydrogen ready to go Hindenbourg on your sorry ass...

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=partial-meltdowns-hydrogen-explosions-at-fukushima-nuclear-power-plant

That's what scared the Russian sh1tless in Tchernobyl and drived them to act quickly openly and efficiently against the problem...

http://enenews.com/kyoto-nuclear-professor-serious-situation-envisioned-uncharted-territory-first-time-humans-started-nuclear-power-videohttp://enenews.com/kyoto-nuclear-professor-serious-situation-envisioned-uncharted-territory-first-time-humans-started-nuclear-power-video

[Yokohammer]

Actually...

NO...

REALLY NO... NOT AT ALL...

Seems that if the molten core continue heading toward the center of the earth it will soon reach the water table. High temperature separate hydrogen from steam... And you got a big bundle of underground hydrogen ready to go Hindenbourg on your sorry ass...

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=partial-meltdowns-hydrogen-explosions-at-fukushima-nuclear-power-plant

That's what scared the Russian sh1tless in Tchernobyl and drived them to act quickly openly and efficiently against the problem...

http://enenews.com/kyoto-nuclear-professor-serious-situation-envisioned-uncharted-territory-first-time-humans-started-nuclear-power-video

http://enenews.com/kyoto-nuclear-professor-serious-situation-envisioned-uncharted-territory-first-time-humans-started-nuclear-power-video

I did stipulate "as long as no more radiation is spread around in the process."

I know that's a tall order, but as long as they can keep the radiation contained they can take 100 years to shut the plant down as far as I'm concerned. In fact, having the thing around for a while, acting as sort of a "sword of Damocles," might prevent the risks of nuclear power from being forgotten too soon.

[matsuki]

Actually...

NO...

REALLY NO... NOT AT ALL...

Seems that if the molten core continue heading toward the center of the earth it will soon reach the water table. High temperature separate hydrogen from steam... And you got a big bundle of underground hydrogen ready to go Hindenbourg on your sorry ass...

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=partial-meltdowns-hydrogen-explosions-at-fukushima-nuclear-power-plant

That's what scared the Russian sh1tless in Tchernobyl and drived them to act quickly openly and efficiently against the problem...

http://enenews.com/kyoto-nuclear-professor-serious-situation-envisioned-uncharted-territory-first-time-humans-started-nuclear-power-videohttp://enenews.com/kyoto-nuclear-professor-serious-situation-envisioned-uncharted-territory-first-time-humans-started-nuclear-power-video

So Fukushima is about to join Hiroshima and Nagasaki? At least they're warning the local populace....oh wait...

[Greji]

Those fish look a little old to be mutated from Fukushima-related radiation. They look older than seven or fewer months old to me. Or are these pix just for emphasis?

I think I saw them at my corner sushiya as they were being dressed out.....

[Taro Toporific]

I think I saw them at my corner sushiya as they were being dressed out...

Oh noes!

[Samurai_Jerk]

This thread is a repost.

[Taro Toporific]

[color="Red"]first posted by Samurai_Jerk on Oct. 31, 04:56 PM[/color]
[INDENT]
[SIZE="3"]Experts: 30 years till Japan can close nuke plant[/SIZE]
Japanese government panel says it will take at least 30 years to safely close the tsunami-hobbled Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear power plant, even though the facility is leaking far less radiation than before and is considered relatively stable. ...

The panel noted that it took 10 years to remove nuclear fuel after the 1979 Three Mile Island accident in the United States, and suggested that the process at Fukushima would be much more complicated and time-consuming. ...

But extensive repairs and safety measures must still be carried out. The panel said removal of the fuel rods at Fukushima would not begin until 2021, after the repair of the plant's containment vessels. ...

While the worst appears to be over, recent discoveries of radiation "hot spots" in and around Tokyo have caused fears among people there, with many concerned parents routinely checking their neighborhoods for radiation.

In most cases, the readings have been below internationally accepted annual limits, but critics say that the standard exceeds Japan's cap before the accident and that the government should expand the scope of decontamination. ...

http://news.yahoo.com/experts-30-years-till-japan-close-nuke-plant-031301877.html[/INDENT]

[Mike Oxlong]

Crisis spokesman drinks decontaminated water

Update: Crisis spokesman signed by Mitsui Fudosan to pitch oceanfront Tochigi properties.