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[Yokohammer]

Hmm ... do those suits protect the wearer from big rocks falling from the sky?


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[Russell]

Hmm ... do those suits protect the wearer from big rocks falling from the sky?

That's where Coligny's 82 NBC recon vehicle comes in handy...

[Mike Oxlong]

[wagyl]

I somehow think that this is not the topography for wheeled vehicles

[Coligny]

Hmm ... do those suits protect the wearer from big rocks falling from the sky?


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The same god that was watching over the helos...

Also, see Russell's answer...

[Coligny]

I somehow think that this is not the topography for wheeled vehicles

Still desperate to have the last word... Do you really need to turn any health and safety conversation into a toddler's sandbox pissing contest ? You don't have grand kids to make their life miserable instead of ours ? At least would would have a captive audience.
Back to your cave morlock. We are talking about the globality of the rescue.
The initial parameter considered was the H2S threat. That I addressed with the availability of cold war era gear.
Now if you also have to consider the fireballs.
Fireball are not continuous, depending on the timing of the rescue the activity of the volcano have certainly fluctuated. Opening possibility to send teams with spotter able to racall them if the activity appears to rise again.
I didn't see as a requirement that all rescue gear needed to be able to drive or land around each square centimeter of the rescue zone.

and even then...

All you need is a Totoya and a team of British idiots from the BBC...

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[wagyl]

For the record I was talking about the scree: the dust (not fireballs) is there just to show we are talking about the same mountain, in the zone where bodies were being searched for. But it is clear that you have not been on these mountains and do not know what you are talking about.

And also, for the record, the BBC is so anal about health and safety, that they require that presenter-stunt-pricks remove cigarette packets from their pockets before staging split-your-sides hilarious roll-overs in Reliant Robins, for fear of flying objects (the irony is that they also required glass-breaking hammers, which flew around the car at speed).

[Coligny]

For the record I was talking about the scree: the dust (not fireballs) is there just to show we are talking about the same mountain, in the zone where bodies were being searched for. But it is clear that you have not been on these mountains and do not know what you are talking about.

Also known as "derp coligny did not see the 3rd guy had a blue t-shirt so he's totally wrong"

Who give a fuck aboot the pinpointed detail you choose to think you proove me wrong... You think I'm supposed to carefully analyze any bullshit you post ? Yes sparky, at t-0 of the start of the eruption, driving a car through a pyroclastic or volcanic dust cloud at the mouth of the volcano would not have been a good idea. As a good paranoid I even drive around with a spare air filter for the whip these days to avoid getting completely stuck after a potential event.

It's a volcano eruption. Potential fireball, lava flow or pyroclastic flow, dust clouds. Once the eruption start, when you know the topography and the winds you can have clues on where the shit is going to rain. That's why airspace over iceland was partially opened when all of europe was a no fly zone. At ground zero stuff goes left or right, rarely both and is not yet dispersed beyond the point where it can be easily spotted..

[wagyl]

So your vehicle can handle slopes of 45 degrees (you can verify that with the typographical map I linked: 300m elevation in 300m distance) and rocks of say 60cm height (I'm being generous). Nice one.


Or you can send men in on foot. Probably less likely to crush the bodies you are searching for, too.


Or am I supposed to carefully analyse your bullshit? I gave that up many years ago.

Anyway, even though I was not talking about the eruption, only about the topography, I hope you are never in the way of a pyroclastic flow. You seem to think they move slower than they do.

[Russell]

Coligny, it looks like Wagyl was only trying to point out a minor detail that could possibly interfere with your plan to rescue all those people or to find their bodies.

Personally, I wouldn't like to drive around on that mountain, and from inside such a vehicle it is a bit difficult to find victims.

But them choppers could come in handy for blowing away all that dust...

[Coligny]

So your vehicle can handle slopes of 45 degrees (you can verify that with the typographical map I linked: 300m elevation in 300m distance) and rocks of say 60cm height (I'm being generous). Nice one.

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Go fuck yourself, and i'm being serious too. I know you will match every possible rescue scenario no matter how improbable it is against all gear available until you cherrypick those that might not work. But for god sake, shut the fuck up, you are not only making humanity global IQ drop everytime you post. You are also trying to send technology back in time:

1978 mercedes benz unimog

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Now i don't know the full offroad specs of the type 82. But to answer cherry picking to ridiculous cherry picking. 45°, yes wheeled vehicles can do.

Between not doing anything and driving around every square centimeter of the volcano, plans of action were available.

Breathing aparatus existed, vehicles existed and fireproof suits existed. If i say a vehicle can climb, you will answer "bu bu but... it can't drive over lava, therefore, Coligny is an idiot" if i speak aboot pyroclastic explosion you answer aboot the speed. Yes they are fast. But unlike lava flow they are surge only. Once the flow is gone, rescue can be attempted. For fuck sake, I've seen better argumentation from 5 years old with down syndrome... Tell us, which village is missing his idiot ? Because the hole left behind might have turned the place into a new MIT... Might be awesome to live there...

[Coligny]

Even better, seems that I have a car in my parking that can do that... With street tire, his own fridge and a portable shitter in the back...

http://www.mitsubishi-motors.co.jp/deli ... rformance/

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Edit, but if i remember well, you were the one to qualify of voyeurism or disaster porn everytime someone report an event that is not happening right in his neighbourhood claiming that since it can't affect you there is no reason to care. Shown in your arguments, you like to narrow things down until you think you can control or understand them... Despite needing to be reduced to a meaningless part of the situation to be considered or acted upon... There is a saying for this behaviour... Cleaning the deck chairs on the Titanic...

[Russell]

I suppose we had better postpone our FG Xmas party on Mount Fuji until we have some safe rescue options in place...

[Yokohammer]

I suppose we had better postpone our FG Xmas party on Mount Fuji until we have some safe rescue options in place...

If there's an FG Xmas party I'm coming in full battle armor.


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[Coligny]

If there's an FG Xmas party I'm coming in full battle armor.

You still have your crotchless lederhosen !!??

ewww... kinky...