Floodings

[yanpa]

... The mexican midget wrestler would have dun it eaonz ago if he had the admin capacity for this..

Yeah, my admin functions got borked in an forum upgrad about six months ago: Some work, some don't.
The "Move" posts, "Merge threads", and "Split threads" functions are DOA for me, but I still can edit and nuke posts no problem.

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Test of the Move.

That's interesting, because it's way more than 6 months since I last upgraded the forum software.

[Coligny]

Updated japanese hazards map:

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Areas in white represent zone subject to somekind of risk to be choosen from: quake, typhoon, tsunami, poisonned milk, nukular disasters, floodz, rabid wildlife, industrial risks, bad drivers, plane crashes, Take's mom clap.

[wagyl]

the mayor of Joso city insisted this flood disaster was a man-made one.
actually a solar power company destroyed the part of the natural levee to put the solar panels and it collapsed from the point.

The levee breach, whatever the cause, has certainly not helped, but can you (or the Mayor) explain why there is flooding upstream of that breach? Is it the primary cause?

`Upstream` only has meaning within the stream (between the banks). Once a breach occurs, the water flows in all directions to lower elevations than the stream and into any such contiguous lower areas that aren`t yet flooded.

In this particular case, there was water flowing over the top of the levee about 4 kilometres upstream of the breach photos which Take had posted, which was why I made a slightly cryptic comment. I am not sure if he was confused in the rush to publish, or deliberate in choosing to post photos of a dramatic levee burst when the event at the solar generator array was just an overflowing of the levee rather than a catastrophic breach (Catastrophic meaning the levee was washed away. The flooding catastrophe is the same either way.)

[kurogane]

when the event at the solar generator array was just an overflowing of the levee rather than a catastrophic breach (Catastrophic meaning the levee was washed away. The flooding catastrophe is the same either way.)

It offends me that we need to parse our words even here, but well put. And on behalf of all the subliterates, I apologise for even making one so obviously decent as you think you needed to. But well done. Death to subliterates.

[legion]

Tokyo said in a 2014 report on handling flooding and downpours that rainfall of 75 mm per hour tends to hit areas such as Nerima and Nakano wards.

Other wards and cities in Tokyo susceptible to downpours include Suginami Ward and the cities of Mitaka and Musashino, author Tsuchiya said, adding that people who live or work in these areas should be particularly keen to check hazard maps compiled by the local municipalities because rivers that may have run underneath some parts of their neighborhoods in days gone by may now have been converted into culverts.

Crazy person that I am, I checked the hazard map before moving here. And checked with my very own eyes right after heavy rain to see where the water went (basically "away" in all directions). Maybe I should stock up on inflatable boats for hire.

Inflatable is deflatable, you need a solid hull

I live next to a river ...... in Mitaka

it has been engineered to cope with heavy rain ......

[chibaka]

Updated japanese hazards map:

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Areas in white represent zone subject to Take's mom clap.

Fixed...

[wagyl]

I live in what was the second bailey of a very very very minor castle during the Heian period. It has stood the test of time regarding floods and landslides.

Earthquakes are another matter. There is a reason I know that this building has not been here longer than 168 years. If they don't get you one way, they will get you another, which was the thrust of Coligny's post.

[matsuki]

I live next to a river ......

it has been engineered

Well there's your problem....

[Coligny]

I live next to a river ......

it has been engineered

Well there's your problem....

Come on, those guys know their shit, just look at Fuckyoushima...

Mendokusai
M00z00kashee...
Shoooooganai...

Why give a fuck when you can completely screwup for the same salary ?

[Salty]

the mayor of Joso city insisted this flood disaster was a man-made one.
actually a solar power company destroyed the part of the natural levee to put the solar panels and it collapsed from the point.

The levee breach, whatever the cause, has certainly not helped, but can you (or the Mayor) explain why there is flooding upstream of that breach? Is it the primary cause?

`Upstream` only has meaning within the stream (between the banks). Once a breach occurs, the water flows in all directions to lower elevations than the stream and into any such contiguous lower areas that aren`t yet flooded.

In this particular case, there was water flowing over the top of the levee about 4 kilometres upstream of the breach photos which Take had posted, which was why I made a slightly cryptic comment. I am not sure if he was confused in the rush to publish, or deliberate in choosing to post photos of a dramatic levee burst when the event at the solar generator array was just an overflowing of the levee rather than a catastrophic breach (Catastrophic meaning the levee was washed away. The flooding catastrophe is the same either way.)

Ah... I didn`t know that. So it seems that the levees needed to be higher; the river bed dredged deeper; the river banks widened; or maybe a gigantic umbrella constructed....

[dimwit]

In this particular case, there was water flowing over the top of the levee about 4 kilometres upstream of the breach photos which Take had posted, which was why I made a slightly cryptic comment. I am not sure if he was confused in the rush to publish, or deliberate in choosing to post photos of a dramatic levee burst when the event at the solar generator array was just an overflowing of the levee rather than a catastrophic breach (Catastrophic meaning the levee was washed away. The flooding catastrophe is the same either way.)

In most cases, with the kind of torrential rainfall that the area experienced, it is not uncommon for levees to breach in multple locations as happened in Katrina. In most places that have proper emergency planning, the idea is set up areas of the river bank that can be intentionally breached, flooding fields rather than destroying housing. Of course, to do this you need proper zoning, something Japan lacks.

[Salty]

... flooding fields rather than destroying housing. ...

Erm... the other way around, right? After all, it is the farmers who keep the LDP in power.

[legion]

I live next to a river ......

it has been engineered

Well there's your problem....

The engineering is fine, the neighbours tell us it used to flood from time to time, now it doesn't. The cost of cleaning up the areas designed to prevent over spill is the main downside for the city.

As with all things, you have to weigh the benefits, how many people in Tokyo can walk out of their front door and see a kingfisher, or walk round the corner on a summer night into a nature reserve to watch fireflies? I was driving back through Tokyo last night, on the way back from the beach in Chiba, you get that big view of the apartment blocks from the bridge over the Arakawa on the expressway, very pretty at night but I can't imagine living in that environment.

[Samurai_Jerk]

I live next to a river ......

it has been engineered

Well there's your problem....

The engineering is fine, the neighbours tell us it used to flood from time to time, now it doesn't. The cost of cleaning up the areas designed to prevent over spill is the main downside for the city.

As with all things, you have to weigh the benefits, how many people in Tokyo can walk out of their front door and see a kingfisher, or walk round the corner on a summer night into a nature reserve to watch fireflies? I was driving back through Tokyo last night, on the way back from the beach in Chiba, you get that big view of the apartment blocks from the bridge over the Arakawa on the expressway, very pretty at night but I can't imagine living in that environment.

Mitaka???

[legion]

I live next to a river ......

it has been engineered

Well there's your problem....

The engineering is fine, the neighbours tell us it used to flood from time to time, now it doesn't. The cost of cleaning up the areas designed to prevent over spill is the main downside for the city.

As with all things, you have to weigh the benefits, how many people in Tokyo can walk out of their front door and see a kingfisher, or walk round the corner on a summer night into a nature reserve to watch fireflies? I was driving back through Tokyo last night, on the way back from the beach in Chiba, you get that big view of the apartment blocks from the bridge over the Arakawa on the expressway, very pretty at night but I can't imagine living in that environment.

Mitaka???

You don't know much about Tokyo do you.

[legion]

I live next to a river ......

it has been engineered

Well there's your problem....

Come on, those guys know their shit, just look at Fuckyoushima...

Mendokusai
M00z00kashee...
Shoooooganai...

Why give a fuck when you can completely screwup for the same salary ?

Oh dear

General Electric, famous Japanese firm

[Samurai_Jerk]

I live next to a river ......

it has been engineered

Well there's your problem....

The engineering is fine, the neighbours tell us it used to flood from time to time, now it doesn't. The cost of cleaning up the areas designed to prevent over spill is the main downside for the city.

As with all things, you have to weigh the benefits, how many people in Tokyo can walk out of their front door and see a kingfisher, or walk round the corner on a summer night into a nature reserve to watch fireflies? I was driving back through Tokyo last night, on the way back from the beach in Chiba, you get that big view of the apartment blocks from the bridge over the Arakawa on the expressway, very pretty at night but I can't imagine living in that environment.

Mitaka???

You don't know much about Tokyo do you.

I know plenty. I just think it's funny that you describe it like it's some kind of rural paradise.

[legion]

I know plenty. I just think it's funny that you describe it like it's some kind of rural paradise.

Don't forget Mitaka is a big town, we have a lot of green down my way, there are still people holding out on small plots of land farming or growing plants for sale. ICU & Tenmondai have large grounds mostly given over to trees. If you think of your kids long term health living somewhere with a lot of green is a must, not just for running around, but also for air quality.

The yochien my kids went to is attached to a temple which dates back to the 17th century, legend has it the temple itself was physically moved from Jindaiji as a whole, using bath buckets for rollers.

Nowhere in Tokyo is a rural paradise, but where I live is the closest you'll get and still be able to commute to work in central Tokyo in reasonable time.

[wagyl]

still be able to commute to work in central Tokyo in reasonable time.

As long as nobody has chosen this day to be the day to end it all under the wheels of a Chuosen Kaisoku.

[Coligny]

I live next to a river ......

it has been engineered

Well there's your problem....

Come on, those guys know their shit, just look at Fuckyoushima...

Mendokusai
M00z00kashee...
Shoooooganai...

Why give a fuck when you can completely screwup for the same salary ?

Oh dear

General Electric, famous Japanese firm

More Tepco but whatev'

[legion]

still be able to commute to work in central Tokyo in reasonable time.

As long as nobody has chosen this day to be the day to end it all under the wheels of a Chuosen Kaisoku.

I prefer the Sobu Line, easier to get a seat

[legion]

More Tepco but whatev'

I think the engineering was all GE.

Of course, there is always the problem of wiring, particularly hard wired thought patterns.

[Coligny]

More Tepco but whatev'

I think the engineering was all GE.

Of course, there is always the problem of wiring, particularly hard wired thought patterns.

Blaming G.E. For Fuckyoushima is like blaming Boeing for 9/11...

Not matter how idiot proof your designs are, nature always comes up with better idiots...

[legion]

Blaming G.E. For Fuckyoushima is like blaming Boeing for 9/11...

Not matter how idiot proof your designs are, nature always comes up with better idiots...

Because boiling water with radioactive material is such a great idea, especially when the spent fuel is so easy to deal with.

Of course it isn't just an excuse for countries to have access to weapons grade uranium.

[Coligny]

Same can be said aboot landing fighter planes on a boat.

A stupidly dangerous idea. But that can be done right.

[matsuki]

I know plenty. I just think it's funny that you describe it like it's some kind of rural paradise.

Don't forget Mitaka is a big town, we have a lot of green down my way, there are still people holding out on small plots of land farming or growing plants for sale. ICU & Tenmondai have large grounds mostly given over to trees. If you think of your kids long term health living somewhere with a lot of green is a must, not just for running around, but also for air quality.

The yochien my kids went to is attached to a temple which dates back to the 17th century, legend has it the temple itself was physically moved from Jindaiji as a whole, using bath buckets for rollers.

Nowhere in Tokyo is a rural paradise, but where I live is the closest you'll get and still be able to commute to work in central Tokyo in reasonable time.

I live quite near Mitaka....please enlighten me on this greenery you speak of. I have a bitch that must needs go there....the type that barks, not kaaiiis.

[wagyl]

Not Mitaka, but closer and more convenient to you, and good for bitches of all categories: Koganei Park https://www.tokyo-park.or.jp/park/format/index050.html https://www.google.co.jp/maps/place/Kog ... 0b3e809bb2 Especially good if she is an architecture geek. You do have to keep your bitch on a string, though.

[Samurai_Jerk]

If you think of your kids long term health living somewhere with a lot of green is a must, not just for running around, but also for air quality.

I don't have kids but bullshit.

[Coligny]

I live in the city with most park evet... And the air quality is nothing short of disastrous. I clean black soot daily from my windows sills...

[Russell]

I live in the city with most park evet... And the air quality is nothing short of disastrous. I clean black soot daily from my windows sills...

Inside or outside the bunker?!?