Apple is shite

[matsuki]

Nice...will be interesting to see what the officials decide here.

[Coligny]

Story twist: Now the FBI is bound to tell Apple, how they did it...

The FBI’s new tactic may be subject to a relatively new and little-known rule that would require the government to tell Apple about any vulnerability potentially affecting millions of iPhones unless it can show a group of administration officials that there’s a substantial national security need to keep the flaw secret. This process, known as an equities review, was created by the Obama administration to determine if new security flaws should be kept secret or disclosed, and gives the government a specific time frame for alerting companies to the flaws.

Source...

That's turning into a comical clusterfuck... With Apple's ass smelling like roses no less...
If the FBI tried to bluff their way out it's going to be even better...

[legion]

Story twist: Now the FBI is bound to tell Apple, how they did it...

The FBI’s new tactic may be subject to a relatively new and little-known rule that would require the government to tell Apple about any vulnerability potentially affecting millions of iPhones unless it can show a group of administration officials that there’s a substantial national security need to keep the flaw secret. This process, known as an equities review, was created by the Obama administration to determine if new security flaws should be kept secret or disclosed, and gives the government a specific time frame for alerting companies to the flaws.

Source...

unless it can show a group of administration officials their own browsing history

https://developer.apple.com/iad/advertise/

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205223

To ensure ads are relevant, iAd creates groups of people who share similar characteristics and uses these groups for ad targeting. Information about you is used to determine which groups you are assigned to, and thus, which ads you receive. To protect your privacy, your information is used to place you into groups of at least 5,000 people.
The following information may be used to assign you to targeting groups:
Account Information: Your name, address, age, and devices registered to your account.
Downloads: The music, movies, books, TV shows, and apps you download.
Device Information: Your keyboard language settings, location, device and connection type.
Activities in Apple Apps: The topics and publications you follow in News and the Offers you choose to add to Wallet.
Activities in Other Apps: App developers who have your permission may provide information regarding your in-app purchases and activities such as game level completion.
Advertising: Your interaction with advertising delivered by iAd.
Other Segments: For specific advertising campaigns, third parties may share information on groups of people so long as no individual data is shared. iAd may match these segments using postal codes or by comparing hashed identifiers to prevent personally identifiable information from being disclosed. This allows advertisers who have your permission to target ads to you based on your relationship with them, and for iAd to measure the effectiveness of ad campaigns.

Why is you name needed for advertising?

[Coligny]

How the FBI cracked the terrurist iPhone...

By waterboarding it...

Unlocked iPhone Worthless After F.B.I. Spills Glass of Water on It
BY ANDY BOROWITZ

Moar: http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz ... ater-on-it

People defending the right of others to suck at their job in 3... 2...

Yes, it's satire...

[legion]

Life can be messy Timmy

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/mar/31/father-apple-tim-cook-unblock-dead-son-iphone-leonardo-fabbretti

Father asks Apple head Tim Cook to unblock dead son's iPhone
Leonardo Fabbretti says firm thought to have helped FBI access San Bernardino gunman’s phone will help if Apple refuses

This is the kind of situation Timmy's IdiotStores are trying avoid dealing with

[Coligny]

Wait, you are just understanding now one of the issues of a situation you have been raving aboot for several weeks now ?

Sooo... there's hope...

a really slow hope...

[Russell]

BTW, this source says that it is an Israeli company that hacked the phone.

Anyone saw any confirmation of this?

[Coligny]

BTW, this source says that it is an Israeli company that hacked the phone.

Anyone saw any confirmation of this?

Depnds...

what are your views on the Tonkin gulf incident ?

[legion]

Wait, you are just understanding now one of the issues of a situation you have been raving aboot for several weeks now ?

Sooo... there's hope...

a really slow hope...

Quote me

My main point is that Apple's lack of foresight has led them into this PR nightmare, which is starting to looking look like lose lose. Unlike computers, society is chaotic and messy, you can't just switch it off and switch it on again.

You mentioned they wouldn't help you with your colleague's phone. Multiply this by the number of iPhones they have sold and this tells you the potential cost of providing a back up plan other than 10 strikes and out for such eventualities. As coders they went for the simple technical solution, not the messy case by case human one.

Fundamentally it highlights a problem of a mass produced device becoming so central to people's lives. When they open that door in that illustration above they are going to find a herd of sheep.

I'm not sure it's me that rants here sunshine.

[Doctor Stop]

BTW, this source says that it is an Israeli company that hacked the phone.

Anyone saw any confirmation of this?

Which is owned by a Japanese company:

http://www.sun-denshi.co.jp/
http://www.sun-denshi.co.jp/company/base/abroad/

[Russell]

BTW, this source says that it is an Israeli company that hacked the phone.

Anyone saw any confirmation of this?

Depnds...

what are your views on the Tonkin gulf incident ?

So, what has that to do with the Apple phone?!?

[Russell]

BTW, this source says that it is an Israeli company that hacked the phone.

Anyone saw any confirmation of this?

Which is owned by a Japanese company:

http://www.sun-denshi.co.jp/
http://www.sun-denshi.co.jp/company/base/abroad/

Hmm, interesting.

I couldn't even find the name of the Israeli company.

[Coligny]

BTW, this source says that it is an Israeli company that hacked the phone.

Anyone saw any confirmation of this?

Depnds...

what are your views on the Tonkin gulf incident ?

So, what has that to do with the Apple phone?!?

Trust in the word of the american gov word...

[Russell]

BTW, this source says that it is an Israeli company that hacked the phone.

Anyone saw any confirmation of this?

Depnds...

what are your views on the Tonkin gulf incident ?

So, what has that to do with the Apple phone?!?

Trust in the word of the american gov word...

Did the U.S. government identify the nationality of the company?

[Coligny]

BTW, this source says that it is an Israeli company that hacked the phone.

Anyone saw any confirmation of this?

Depnds...

what are your views on the Tonkin gulf incident ?

So, what has that to do with the Apple phone?!?

Trust in the word of the american gov word...

Did the U.S. government identify the nationality of the company?

http://www.macrumors.com/2016/03/23/fbi ... ck-iphone/

http://www.cellebrite.com/About-Cellebrite

cellebrite_contract.jpg

The company employs over 500 people. Cellebrite was Founded in 1999 and is a subsidiary of the Sun Corporation, a publicly traded Japanese company (6736/JQ), based in Nagoya; it has offices in Israel, the USA, Brazil, Germany, Singapore and UK.

wiki:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellebrite

Cellebrite Mobile Synchronization is an Israeli company that manufactures data extraction, transfer and analysis devices for cellular phones and mobile devices. The company is a subsidiary of Japan's Sun Corporation.

Founded Petah Tikva, Israel (1999)

[Russell]

BTW, this source says that it is an Israeli company that hacked the phone.

Anyone saw any confirmation of this?

Depnds...

what are your views on the Tonkin gulf incident ?

So, what has that to do with the Apple phone?!?

Trust in the word of the american gov word...

Did the U.S. government identify the nationality of the company?

http://www.macrumors.com/2016/03/23/fbi ... ck-iphone/

http://www.cellebrite.com/About-Cellebrite

cellebrite_contract.jpg

The company employs over 500 people. Cellebrite was Founded in 1999 and is a subsidiary of the Sun Corporation, a publicly traded Japanese company (6736/JQ), based in Nagoya; it has offices in Israel, the USA, Brazil, Germany, Singapore and UK.

wiki:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellebrite

Cellebrite Mobile Synchronization is an Israeli company that manufactures data extraction, transfer and analysis devices for cellular phones and mobile devices. The company is a subsidiary of Japan's Sun Corporation.

Founded Petah Tikva, Israel (1999)

These sources are not exactly U.S. government sources.

But I believe you are on to something.

Well found.

[Coligny]

the purchase order kinda is...

So we know they used them for something. Either cover their asses or really unlock the phone...

[Coligny]

Wait, you are just understanding now one of the issues of a situation you have been raving aboot for several weeks now ?

Sooo... there's hope...

a really slow hope...

Quote me

My main point is that Apple's lack of foresight has led them into this PR nightmare, which is starting to looking look like lose lose. Unlike computers, society is chaotic and messy, you can't just switch it off and switch it on again.

You mentioned they wouldn't help you with your colleague's phone. Multiply this by the number of iPhones they have sold and this tells you the potential cost of providing a back up plan other than 10 strikes and out for such eventualities. As coders they went for the simple technical solution, not the messy case by case human one.

Fundamentally it highlights a problem of a mass produced device becoming so central to people's lives. When they open that door in that illustration above they are going to find a herd of sheep.

I'm not sure it's me that rants here sunshine.

They made the right move, got away with it... but you paint it as

My main point is that Apple's lack of foresight has led them into this PR nightmare,

You are one contrail theory away from being crazier than a shithouse rat... and the pr nightmare has been for the FBI, not apple...

[Russell]

FBI's Comey, officials discount two iPhone hack theories

Law enforcement officials speaking on background debunked another report that had named Israeli forensics firm Cellebrite as the mystery firm helping it break into the phone.

On Wednesday, the Israeli newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth reported that the company that specializes in extracting information from cellphones was the mysterious "outside party." The FBI had previously bought kits for extracting data from cellphones from Cellebrite.

The officials, who are not authorized to speak publicly on the matter, declined to identify the outside party providing the technical assistance.

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[Coligny]

Mystewy deepenz...

[Wage Slave]

Two idiotic bald men fighting over a wig?

http://www.fonefunshop.co.uk/cable_picker/98483_IP-BOX_iPhone_Password_Unlock_Tool.html

And according to the Daily Mail it works fine.

[Coligny]

And according to the Daily Mail it works fine.

famous last words...

[chibaka]

So whatsapp a.k.a Facebook has also declared war on the FBI? http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-35969739

This suddenly appeared on my phone last night

Messages you send to this chat and calls are now secured with end-to-end encryption

[Grumpy Gramps]

"I hear the message loud and clear, alas, I lack the faith", so to speak. It's Facebook, after all...

[legion]

Two idiotic bald men fighting over a wig?

http://www.fonefunshop.co.uk/cable_picker/98483_IP-BOX_iPhone_Password_Unlock_Tool.html

And according to the Daily Mail it works fine.

sheesh, they'll be making master keys for suitcases next ...... oh, they already did

[Mike Oxlong]

FBI reportedly paid 'gray-hat' hackers, not Cellebrite, for zero day exploit in San Bernardino iPhone case
In the latest development of what appears to be a never-ending guessing game, a report on Tuesday claims FBI officials purchased a zero day exploit from a group of professional security researchers as part of its successful effort in breaking into an iPhone 5c linked to last year's San Bernardino terror attack...

[legion]

On this one I say so fucking what, they are a business selling stuff, not PC engineers of social change.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jun/01/apple-cuts-same-sex-parents-mothers-day-adverts-germany-france-italy

Apple cuts same-sex parents from Mother's Day ads in six countries

It isn’t the first time parts of an advert have been tailored for certain markets. Apple removed tattoos from an Apple Watch advert in Japan,

[Samurai_Jerk]

On this one I say so fucking what, they are a business selling stuff, not PC engineers of social change.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jun/01/apple-cuts-same-sex-parents-mothers-day-adverts-germany-france-italy

Apple cuts same-sex parents from Mother's Day ads in six countries

It isn’t the first time parts of an advert have been tailored for certain markets. Apple removed tattoos from an Apple Watch advert in Japan,

The most shameful part of that story is the names those cunts gave their kids.

[legion]

The most shameful part of that story is the names those cunts gave their kids.

I used to know some hippy kids who had interesting names, they opted for their boring middle names when they had the choice

None of them turned into confused FBI agents as far as I know