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It's Japan with more plastic surgery and harder drinking

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Mon Sep 05, 2016 2:06 pm

I think a lot of the stuff about corporate culture will sound very familiar to most of us.

The boozy, narcissistic culture shock of working in South Korea

Frank Ahrens was director of global p.r. for Hyundai, based out of their Seoul, South Korea, headquarters. One day, his employee Eduardo gave him shocking news.

“Sir, I got a hair transplant!”

Eduardo, in his mid-20s, had “a full head of hair worn long enough to touch his collar and cover his ears and his forehead. If you looked at Eduardo’s head, there was no place you could think of to put more hair,” Ahrens writes.

As Eduardo proudly showed him the stitches from the transplant, which cost almost $3,000, an incredulous Ahrens asked why he did it.

Eduardo explained that he’d seen hair come out in the shower and thought he noticed his hairline begin to recede just slightly. He added that everyone he’d spoken to — from his team members at work to his parents, who paid for the procedure — agreed this was the right thing to do.

Welcome to South Korea.

[...]

Korea’s culture of personal improvement would make a Kardashian blush, as plastic surgery is far more pervasive than in the US. This obsession with appearance is known there as “lookism.”

[...]

The motives for this go beyond narcissism, speaking instead to the intense competitiveness of Korean culture, where résumés include headshots, Ahrens writes.

“Job applicants know that in Korea, as everywhere in the world, the better-looking of two equally qualified job seekers will likely get the position,” he writes.

“So instead of being hypocritical, as Koreans would say Americans are by pretending looks don’t matter, Koreans understand the system and try to succeed within it . . . to not choose plastic surgery, if it will improve your employment and life prospects, would be considered . . . ill-advised.”

[...]

As obsessed as Koreans are with appearance, they are equally driven, somewhat ironically, by alcohol (which rarely improves anyone’s looks once the booze wears off). After a hard day at the office, corporate Koreans are expected to socialize with their co-workers, drinking like frat boys with something to prove.

Ahrens, normally a two- or three-beer drinker at best, writes that he had “been warned and had read about the Korean drinking culture,” which is so omnipresent he was asked about his drinking in his first job interview with the company.

“I was asked, ‘Do you drink alcohol? Your team will want to show respect to you by giving you drinks.’ ” He mentioned that while he can “enjoy a good beer,” he was sure “there were other ways my team could demonstrate their respect.”

He was wrong.

Koreans, it turns out, drink “more alcohol than anyone on Earth.” One study found that the typical Korean “downed an average of 11 shots of alcohol per week.”

That’s more than double the average Russian, who comes in at No. 2 with a measly five.


I've seen plenty of studies that show South Korea as being a top consumer of alcohol but never any that put them at # 1. Have they been catching up or is everyone else laying off the sauce?
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Re: It's Japan with more plastic surgery and harder drinking

Postby TennoChinko » Mon Sep 05, 2016 4:48 pm

I've seen plenty of studies that show South Korea as being a top consumer of alcohol but never any that put them at # 1. Have they been catching up or is everyone else laying off the sauce?


South Koreans drink twice as much liquor as Russians and more than four times as much as Americans
http://qz.com/171191/south-koreans-drin ... americans/

The wikipedia used to show WHO data that one could sort by type of alcohol ... and under the hard spirits category, South Koreans came out above former Baltic State countries and Russia... however, the current one does not seem to indicate the same ranking:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... per_capita
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Re: It's Japan with more plastic surgery and harder drinking

Postby Coligny » Mon Sep 05, 2016 6:13 pm

South Koreans drink twice as much liquor as Russians and more than four times as much as Americans
http://qz.com/171191/south-koreans-drin ... americans/


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Re: It's Japan with more plastic surgery and harder drinking

Postby Takechanpoo » Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:04 pm

SamJs 判官贔屓 tendency as usual

your 判官贔屓 tendency makes you cannot even clearly distinguish between total procedures and per 1000.
chartoftheday_4059_the_world_s_love_affair_with_plastic_surgery_n.jpg
20120428_WOC079.png


i guess something disgusting happened to samj by his j-colleague in the company today.
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Re: It's Japan with more plastic surgery and harder drinking

Postby wuchan » Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:12 pm

Takechanpoo wrote:SamJs 判官贔屓 tendency as usual

your 判官贔屓 tendency makes you cannot even clearly distinguish between total procedures and per 1000.
chartoftheday_4059_the_world_s_love_affair_with_plastic_surgery_n.jpg
20120428_WOC079.png


i guess something disgusting happened to samj by his j-colleague in the company today.
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since the Japanese school system failed you:

percentage per population is a better reflection. Based on your chart and 2015 population figures:

USA = 1.28%
Worst Korea = 1.96%
Japan = 1.02



The part missing is how many Japanese people go to Korea for plastic surgery..........
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Re: It's Japan with more plastic surgery and harder drinking

Postby Wage Slave » Mon Sep 05, 2016 10:09 pm

I can't even work out what the argument is. Enlighten us Tacky - What are you trying to say? The article said "plastic surgery is far more pervasive (in South Korea) than in the US".

It is, and it is according to your own data. Procedures per 1,000 population is a far better measure of pervasiveness than the total number of procedures.

So, what was your argument? Did you think the total number was a better measure so you were just plain wrong again? I cherish to this day that one about the classified and secret (it was until about 1952) interview with a Japanese POW in Burma that was supposed to show that Imperial Japanese Army prostitutes could refuse to service soldiers. In fact you had it arse backwards and the soldier said he chose not to use their prostitutes as he wanted to save the money for after the war.
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Re: It's Japan with more plastic surgery and harder drinking

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Mon Sep 05, 2016 10:34 pm

Wage Slave wrote:I can't even work out what the argument is.


You're not the only one.
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Re: It's Japan with more plastic surgery and harder drinking

Postby Takechanpoo » Mon Sep 05, 2016 11:15 pm

i havent read the text of the article. just commented about the title of this thread.
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Re: It's Japan with more plastic surgery and harder drinking

Postby Grumpy Gramps » Mon Sep 05, 2016 11:18 pm

Maybe the Japanese are better drunk drivers, therefore have fewer accidents, therefore fewer cases of reconstructive surgery?
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Re: It's Japan with more plastic surgery and harder drinking

Postby Wage Slave » Mon Sep 05, 2016 11:23 pm

Takechanpoo wrote:i havent read the text of the article. just commented about the title of this thread.


You didn't understand that either and got things arse backwards. The title means something like:

(Korea) is very similar to Japan but with more plastic surgery and harder drinking.

That also agrees with your data.
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Re: It's Japan with more plastic surgery and harder drinking

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Mon Sep 05, 2016 11:25 pm

Wage Slave wrote:
Takechanpoo wrote:i havent read the text of the article. just commented about the title of this thread.


You didn't understand that either and got things arse backwards. The title means something like:

(Korea) is very similar to Japan but with more plastic surgery and harder drinking.

That also agrees with your data.


And more specifically Korean corporate culture is similar to Japan's.
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Re: It's Japan with more plastic surgery and harder drinking

Postby matsuki » Tue Sep 06, 2016 1:30 am

Samurai_Jerk wrote:
Wage Slave wrote:
Takechanpoo wrote:i havent read the text of the article. just commented about the title of this thread.


You didn't understand that either and got things arse backwards. The title means something like:

(Korea) is very similar to Japan but with more plastic surgery and harder drinking.

That also agrees with your data.


And more specifically Korean corporate culture is similar to Japan's.


Very....my brother is working at KIA and his descriptions of the company decisions are as above, complete with the "well someone has to take the blame, let's kubi someone who's title looks like they are the one responsible on paper." (but he also says they have copied Toyota manuals wherever they can and the J to E copied by K in Engrish is often undecipherable so maybe they deserve some chugoku mitai as well)
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Postby wagyl » Tue Sep 06, 2016 1:45 am

Given the company's technology licensing background they are more likely to be Mazda manuals but anyway.
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Postby kurogane » Tue Sep 06, 2016 3:53 am

Wage Slave wrote: Procedures per 1,000 population is a far better measure of pervasiveness than the total number of procedures..


and a geared bicycle is vastly more efficient than a one speed, grasshopper...........but only if you know what they are there for and use the gears :biggrin2:
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Postby Mike Oxlong » Wed May 31, 2017 7:43 am

Why young South Koreans are turning away from religion
Some churches are employing technology and becoming less
hierarchical to try to entice and keep young members

On a warm spring Sunday morning, the rows of pews inside Seoul Anglican Cathedral were nearly full with congregants singing a traditional hymn accompanied by a blaring organ.

Among the attendees was Park Hyun-jung, a simply dressed woman in her early 30s, currently taking time away from her career to raise her children, aged two and six.

Park comes from a devout Anglican family and attended church regularly while growing up in Seoul. As she entered adulthood and the challenges of completing university, finding a job and marrying came to dominate her schedule, she started going to church less often. She now only goes two or three times a year.

"I'm so busy trying to raise kids and manage our household. I can't find time to do everything," Park said.

Her trajectory of straying from religion in early adulthood is increasingly common among South Koreans, and is reflective of a national trend towards increasing secularism, particularly among young people.

Experts say that young South Koreans are too wrapped up in a demanding education system and job market to spend much time on religious activities.

In many South Korean cities, there are more churches than convenience stores. Around 20 percent of South Koreans identify as Protestant, the largest group in the country, followed by 15 percent who identify as Buddhists, and nearly eight percent as Catholics.

The abundance of churches is a legacy of how people turned to organised religion, mostly brought by US missionaries, for structure and guidance after the 1950-53 Korean War devastated the country and tore apart families. But according to Statistics Korea, a government body, the percentage of South Koreans identifying as having no religion rose from 47 percent in 2005 to 56 percent in 2015. This falling religiosity is especially pronounced among young adults: a poll the same year by Gallup Korea found 31 percent of South Koreans in their 20s identifying as religious, down from 46 percent 10 years earlier...

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Postby Takechanpoo » Wed May 31, 2017 1:30 pm

i can hardly think those would-be or wanna-be christian koreans understand the essence of christianity. they can see things just by the extension of their community or they havent acquired the viewpoint of god transcending specific individual, community and societies and seeing things universally.
many koreanized christian organizations have expanded to japan and all they have done in japan is to deceive j-women and mass-rape them.
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Postby J.A.F.O » Wed May 31, 2017 1:35 pm

Last I heard worst korea has the largest mega churches in the world... too lazy to google it though
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Postby matsuki » Wed May 31, 2017 1:41 pm

Takechanpoo wrote:all they have done in japan is to deceive j-women and mass-rape them.


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Please explain...
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Postby Wage Slave » Wed May 31, 2017 2:02 pm

Takechanpoo wrote:many koreanized christian organizations have expanded to japan and all they have done in japan is to deceive j-women and mass-rape them.


Even by your abysmal standards this screams bullshit. You were quick to demand (and get) evidence for the estimate of 22 million people killed by the Imperial Japanese Army. Let's see some evidence for this please.
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Postby Takechanpoo » Wed May 31, 2017 2:24 pm

as i said before, japan times, japan today and the other english medias in japan dont somewhat report z-korean related cases.
and most of damn gaijin dudes cannot even google by japanese despite living in japan


http://ameblo.jp/campanera/entry-10213917496.html
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Postby Mike Oxlong » Wed May 31, 2017 2:36 pm

Wouldn't one call it Yahoo!ing in Japanese? :???: :razz:
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Postby Wage Slave » Wed May 31, 2017 2:36 pm

If you want to claim the existence of mass rape let's have some numbers please. Citing an incident or two and associated allegations is not evidence of mass anything.
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Postby Takechanpoo » Wed May 31, 2017 7:43 pm

and its also infamous that for decades unification church(moonies) has chronically and intermittently kidnapped their japanese female believers and forced them to get married with the rural poor farmers and the physically handicapped men in korea against their wills. those japanese females were and have been scolded, beaten up and enslaved physically and sexually there by her unwanted husband and his families and are not allowed to escape to japan.
as for the number of the victims, you can just speculate a rough estimate based on the victims testimonies.
and as always, english medias residing in japan have continued to ignore it, pretending to see nothing and they will from now on.
and unfortunately j-politician and j-medias, too, have ignored it because they have strong connections with moonies for a long time since after ww2. moonies-related crimes is one of the taboos in japan. even jake adelstein and that kind of gaijins pretend to see nothing and ignore it. yea
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Postby Wage Slave » Wed May 31, 2017 8:33 pm

Takechanpoo wrote:and its also infamous that for decades unification church(moonies) has chronically and intermittently kidnapped their japanese female believers and forced them to get married with the rural poor farmers and the physically handicapped men in korea against their wills. those japanese females were and have been scolded, beaten up and enslaved physically and sexually there by her unwanted husband and his families and are not allowed to escape to japan.
as for the number of the victims, you can just speculate a rough estimate based on the victims testimonies.
and as always, english medias residing in japan have continued to ignore it, pretending to see nothing and they will from now on.
and unfortunately j-politician and j-medias, too, have ignored it because they have strong connections with moonies for a long time since after ww2. moonies-related crimes is one of the taboos in japan. even jake adelstein and that kind of gaijins pretend to see nothing and ignore it. yea
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I strongly dislike the Unification Church as I do all cults. And I agree that all cults engage in brainwashing and coercion. That doesn't save this from being more of your usual bullshit. If you are going to claim this is a mass phenomenon as opposed to a marginal one then you have to provide some evidence. Some numbers please or everyone will just assume you are exaggerating to the point of fabrication again.
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Postby Takechanpoo » Wed May 31, 2017 8:54 pm

If you are going to claim this is a mass phenomenon as opposed to a marginal one then you have to provide some evidence. Some numbers please or everyone will just assume you are exaggerating to the point of fabrication again.

weird...it sounds just like the j-side complaints about comfort women...yea its weird yea...
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Postby Wage Slave » Wed May 31, 2017 9:14 pm

Takechanpoo wrote:
If you are going to claim this is a mass phenomenon as opposed to a marginal one then you have to provide some evidence. Some numbers please or everyone will just assume you are exaggerating to the point of fabrication again.

weird...it sounds just like the j-side complaints about comfort women...yea its weird yea...
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If you do not have the slightest grasp the meaning of the word "mass" then it might do I suppose. Otherwise, nice try but no biscuit for you Tacky.
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Postby Takechanpoo » Wed May 31, 2017 9:31 pm

although i dont know how long you have lived in this depressing island, seems that you dont know how dangerous exposing unification church related crimes in public is for your lives here in japan. for example, the mastermind behind tokyo subway sarin attack in 1995 done by aum shinrikyo, which was actually the detached troop of unification church, is unification church and north korea. if you seriously dig and reveal the case in public, i do guarantee you will be ruthlessly deleted from the earth.
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Postby Coligny » Wed May 31, 2017 10:59 pm

Ok... who honestly thought that triggering the dynamite monkey would end with anything else than endless amount of shit thrown at the walls ?

Where is the interest of debating with a guu that is 50% troll mixed with 100% moron ?
Let me help you with the standard scenario:
Warhlarb kirean sux
Warglarb unwashed foreigners sux
Warglarb other japanese sux
Warglarb i'm the only keeper of the yamato spirit

The only thing you will get is gangraped excell spreadshits with numbers molested to look like a backing of any remote madness being defended/criticized few lines before...
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Postby Wage Slave » Wed May 31, 2017 11:17 pm

Takechanpoo wrote:although i dont know how long you have lived in this depressing island, seems that you dont know how dangerous exposing unification church related crimes in public is for your lives here in japan. for example, the mastermind behind tokyo subway sarin attack in 1995 done by aum shinrikyo, which was actually the detached troop of unification church, is unification church and north korea. if you seriously dig and reveal the case in public, i do guarantee you will be ruthlessly deleted from the earth.


So how is it you are free to publish this stuff then? Can you cite any examples of journalists or investigators being killed by the Unification Church?

And the Aum Shinrikyo cult wasn't Christian, never mind Unification Church affiliated.

And The Unification Church, in spite of persecution of all religions and imprisonment of the main man, has business interests in North Korea but they aren't significant and can be explained by an overriding desire for, er, unification of the two Koreas. Generally they hates Commies.
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Postby Wage Slave » Wed May 31, 2017 11:20 pm

Coligny wrote:Ok... who honestly thought that triggering the dynamite monkey would end with anything else than endless amount of shit thrown at the walls ?

Where is the interest of debating with a guu that is 50% troll mixed with 100% moron ?
Let me help you with the standard scenario:
Warhlarb kirean sux
Warglarb unwashed foreigners sux
Warglarb other japanese sux
Warglarb i'm the only keeper of the yamato spirit

The only thing you will get is gangraped excell spreadshits with numbers molested to look like a backing of any remote madness being defended/criticized few lines before...


True. But we all have our vices. I tend to regard it as studying stupidity and it's practical application. Know thine enemy to be a better general.
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