12 dead in Paris shooting

[Russell]

We already know the answers to all of these questions. These leads will be to our good and loyal rich friends in the KSA and Qatar, and absolutely nothing will come of it. We need these people to keep buying our weapons, airliners and luxury cars.

That appears to be the consensus, but without a proper investigation we don't know for sure.

I am glad that your attitude has changed from yesterday, Russell, when consensus about Mohammed Emwazi was enough, and investigating too risky, that an alleged execution (he is now apparently "probably dead" in the Pentagon's opinion) was OK enough to want to watch a video of it. You might be lucky: "probably dead" might mean he lingered on in pain, which makes for a longer video.

Well, I prefer him to be in court, but there are some practical problems with that, as I said. At the same time I do recognize the moral and legal problems with the use of drones to kill people by remote control. It is just that I find this Jihadi John so revolting, that I will not shed one tear for his death. I did not watch any of his beheading videos, because I saw one beheading video a decade ago and they are all the same, but it is nice for a change to see the tables turned.

Back to the Paris shooting, my opinion is generally mostly aligned with yours and Wage Slave's, but I sometimes feel the need for sarcasm, because, well because...

[Russell]

He will say he was acting alone, just like the TGV guy. This is the latest thing. They don't even need to claim responsibility, everybody already knows they did it. But this makes proving they are part of a terrorist cell or organisation all the more difficult.

They also arrested someone in Germany who was travelling to Paris with rifles, ammunition and explosives in his car. He will also end up in prison as if he was acting alone.

They can say they act alone, but interrogations are only part of the police investigation, isn't it?

What I am interested in is who financed it, who trained them, who stimulated them? If there are any links to some governments (as Wage Slave hinted) or their intelligence agencies, it would be good to expose them, whatever those links are.

I can tell you that in 90% of these cases, the involved, the intentions and the platforms are already known to the authorities a short time before the attack and anyway, a few hours later the intelligence forces have everything they need to know. It's not about the who' it's about the when and how.

How are you so sure about this? What information do you have that I don't? Sorry, but I find your statements utterly unconvincing if you don't back them up.

[Russell]

The fact that we have a carrier group with nuclear strike capacity heading for dirkastan might not have helped...

Before they start bombing from that thing, they had better make clear their military goals.

And before that, they had better finish their investigation.

[wagyl]

I sometimes feel the need for sarcasm, because, well because...

Yes, a valid coping mechanism, one I think I might get drunk on from time to time. But not as much as those Frisians. But maybe that is baseless prejudice on my part.

[Russell]

I sometimes feel the need for sarcasm, because, well because...

Yes, a valid coping mechanism, one I think I might get drunk on from time to time. But not as much as those Frisians. But maybe that is baseless prejudice on my part.

Don't misunderestimate the Frisians...

[chibaka]

Here we go... so what IS the EU doing about the borders?
Just one so far. but who knows how many are lurking.

At least one man linked to Paris attacks registered as refugee in Greece: police

https://t.co/QyyRSEhOeo

[Russell]

Filmed outside the theater just after the shooting started.

[kurogane]

My take is that it's a bit like admitting the Vancouver Canucks aren't the best thing to ever happen to the most macho sport ever: when you take their skates off they're just a bunch of well intentioned Tall Swedes in stockings and garters

I'm not sure what that means, but OK.

You and me both.

Mission accomplished then Believe in any and all the myths you want, positive ones (like Wage Slave's) or scurrilous racist crap like the Mohammedan hating Neo-Con Artists, but doing that doesn't make any of it true. To argue this is not a race war in many important respects is to fall into Munich Mind, just as to argue that it is only that is to abandon the lofty principles the Con Artist ilk claim are the object of these fearsome attacks, and to needlessly antagonise potential allies.

PS Long Live a Free and Strong Israel. Boycott the boycotters.

[kurogane]

Here we go... so what IS the EU doing about the borders?
Just one so far. but who knows how many are lurking.

At least one man linked to Paris attacks registered as refugee in Greece: police

https://t.co/QyyRSEhOeo

From the wording of the news report I just read the "holder of the passport found near a gunman's body" crossed into Europe through Greece. Even allowing for the sucky Cdn phrasing and PC parsing they might be black market passports rather than an attacker's real one. Not that this is not also a huge security issue as well, and a very strong argument for leaving them in the Middle East in nicer camps with adequate food and shelter.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/wor ... e27264543/

[Russell]

PS Long Live a Free and Strong Israel. Boycott the boycotters.

I am all for a free Israel.

But as long as that has not been established, I will boycott it.

[kurogane]

That's your choice, but I don't think it's fair to blame Israel and Israelis for the shameful actions of all those murderous Palestinians that roam amongst them. I do what I can to boycott them, but I can easily just ignore them. The Israelis don't have that luxury.

[chibaka]

From the wording of the news report I just read the "holder of the passport found near a gunman's body" crossed into Europe through Greece. Even allowing for the sucky Cdn phrasing and PC parsing they might be black market passports rather than an attacker's real one. Not that this is not also a huge security issue as well, and a very strong argument for leaving them in the Middle East in nicer camps with adequate food and shelter.

Britain wants to do just that, feed and shelter them in camps, and assess who deserves to be given asylum. But oh no, the do-gooders insist on open doors to all. Fuck that, it's time the collective governments pulled their fingers out of their asses and make a stand.

[kurogane]

I am on the fence on that, but this should make it a much more politically viable solution. My only complaint about My People (Loveable Lefties) is that far too many of them yell their kneejerk demands for instant entry for massive numbers of refugees based on their dogmatic obsession with childish prinicples and airy fairy UN treaties. The time for that sort of fairy tale crap ended long ago, and far too many of the migrants obviously don't qualify. I think we should help as many as we can as well as we can, but let's do it where they are first, and let's start a Stalingrad style conscription campaign ("The first man takes up the rifle and fires. When the first man falls the second man takes up the rifle and fires") for this inexplicable number of healthy men of fighting age complaining they were fed ham sandwiches upon their uninvited arrival in a place that doesn't want them and can't deal with their whiney entitlement.

OTOH, legitimate refugees like old people and children and such might well benefit from relocation, so I am open to that idea. Canada plans to bring in 25,000 by the end of the year, which is probably mental but it's not like there's a shortage of space or resources. Also, most terrorist attacks in the West are masterminded and executed by disgruntled or whiny homegrown minority types, not by infiltrators from evil places; I spit on the young men fleeing their duty, but I am not afraid of them much.

[kagemusha]

I wish I could have a constructive debate with you but I'm afraid we will never get passed those empty uni campus slogans.
What I can tell you is that to me, those slogans are exactly the thing that prolong the Israeli-Palestinians conflict. But this only my opinion I would love to defend if there will be any merit in it.

Fine with me. You just put your case and I'll put mine.

Yes, just try to base your ideas on reality.

go back to play with your LEGO kit, that's your choice.

Next time try something more suitable to your intellectual ability.

Call me when you grow up and have anything substantial to say

I can get that kind of debate at home any time. I don't need to come here for it.

You are right, but don't forget it was an answer for a rather immature post of your own. If you can't get past it...it's a free country (somewhat)

I would just like to ask you, in light of our previous discussion, on what knowledge/experience/academic study do you base your so decisive opinion?
I'm not trying to provoke or to 'win' just want to hear on what you base your opinions, the mainstream media, Palestinian media, Palestinian activists or the Israeli ones? Have you been there?

Mind your own business. Just say what it is you think Europeans should be doing and why. And then we can just let the jury decide.

No need to be rude. I asked because I think it is important to know what you base you decisive statements on – experience, studies or just wishful notions. Someone describes Tel-Aviv with checkpoints, you talk about Netanyahu hate speech (and damn you for making me for defending that asshole) and I just wonder if you really know what you are talking about.

[Wage Slave]

No need to be rude.

[kurogane]

I second the motion on the sheer chutzpah of the Israel Bashers making The Good People like me and Kagemoo defend that snake oil pusher Netanyahu; nay, a mountebank he is. As if you shouldn't already be completely ashamed for supporting Munich Murderers, Inc. against our one true friend in the region, their warts, bacon and shellfish hating, silly sideburns and all.

[chibaka]

OTOH, legitimate refugees like old people and children and such might well benefit from relocation, so I am open to that idea.

Which if you believe some sources, is a small percentage of the crowds shown on the news. Not sure what some people including the loony lefties have against moderation.
BTW check the new leftie comrade Corbyn who is running the Labour party in the UK, not much loveable about him.

[kagemusha]

Don't forget confiscation of property, deportation and concentration behind walls and fences. Oh, and sending the military in every now and again to mow the grass. Except it doesn't really work - look how peaceful and secure Israel isn't. It does though scratch a certain itch.

How about a few other ideas?

1. Recognise that it is not a conflict fundamentally driven by religion and culture clash. That decades of injustice and repression and cack handed, corrupt and duplicitous middle east policy have brought us here. There are real and deep seated grievances that fuel the alienation and violence.

This conflict is mostly about religion and culture crisis. I don’t know what you base your base your statement on. Just read any manifest publish by any militant movement in the Arab/Muslim world – they are fighting to instate Sharia law in Syria, Israel, Russia and France. They declare it on any stage but you still refuse to believe them because what do they know those savages, you know what they want better than them. They don’t torture and rape Yizidies because of the injustice they have suffered by the west. They don’t destroy any relic or historic site because of the injustice the have suffered by the ancient people who have built those old cities – they do it because it isn’t Islam and they fight everything which isn’t their version of Islam which is a total war against any infidel, no matter where he lives.

This all issue of grievances that explain the blind crazy violence doesn’t hold water. I know it is very fashionable to blame the west for any homicidal Taliban and Hammas terrorist but you have to ask yourself how come other cultures and countries which suffered much more and much longer by colonialism than the Arab world haven’t developed such a death culture.
India and countries in the far east and South America have managed to shake off the injustice and bloody past and they build themselves a future. Actually, the Arab world, besides a brief controlled by the UK and France has enjoyed a complete freedom to build itself. In reality, the cultural decline that has started almost 400 years ago and reaching its apex (I hope) in our age has nothing to do with the west and classic colonialism. They butcher their own people, raping and enslaving their own people not because ‘The West’ makes them do it but because they have embraced the Wahhabi doctrine that preaches for primitive life and the destruction of anything that doesn’t comply.

1. Be clear the the Sunni monarchies are not part of the solution but a huge part of the problem. Bring their rotten and corrupt rules to an end and in the process cut off the funding for the extremist sunni movements - The Taliban, Al Qaeda and Daesh.

2. Be clear that western support for those monarchies and western policy in the middle east more generally has been a huge part of the problem. Resolve to change.

Again, that superior white European view over the savages. It’s funny that someone who talks about past grievances still suggest he knows what’s best for the ‘savages’ better than themselves. After making (on purpose) a mess of Middle East by drawing imaginary borders and creating BS countries and shaky government I would expect a little modesty from someone who still think he knows best what’s good for the others.
I don’t think the Arab primitive rulers are more corrupt than the governments of Europe who still exploit the third world indirectly while covering their actions by nice words and empty gestures. At least the Arab are man enough to do their atrocities by themselves and in broad daylight.

3. Support rather than assist to crush democratic and liberal secular tendencies in the middle east.

The only democratic and liberal tendencies you can find in the Middle-East are in Israel which you so enjoy hating. In the Arab world ,where more than 80% of the people think a person who denies Islam should die, it’s a little bit harder.
Like Amro Mussa said – ‘in the Middle east there is Egypt and other tribes running around with flags’. You don’t have the notion of progress, openness and liberalism there not because of ‘The West’ I’m sorry to tell you that but you are not as important as you like to think. The regression is because The political Isalm. When Europe embraced the renaissance and beat the Muslim empire the Muslims took the opposite direction and plunged into cultural regression. The political Islam makes sure any kind of liberalism is to be destroyed. Women are not treated like cows in the Arab world because of Israel or the USA, gays are not killed because of the British rule in the 30’s and secular bloggers are not bitten to death on the street in front of police officers because ‘they are desperate and have no hope’. It happens because their culture denies anything we stand for, the freedom of thought, the freedom of speech and the notion that no any dispute must end in violence.

4. Be prepared to use overwhelming military power to crush the likes of Daesh.

When you say we need to crush ISIS, do you understand what you say? Do you know how many civilians have died in the short time Russia and the west attack over there?
According to human right watch the number is bigger than the Palestinian civilians who died last year in Gaza. How come what you consider as futile and inhuman just a few posts ago is a viable solution when you feel you have to defend your home?
And how exactly do you think we should fight ISIS? move from house to house and ask all the men if they belong the organization? Unless you suggest a mass killing of the population there is no chance for you to destroy ISIS. Told you before, with 10 to 14 kids a family and an unlimited supply of AK-47 they will fight (mainly killing their own people).
The European hypocrisy of buying oil from ISIS for more than a year (only through third party, mind you) and then cry when they bite you in the ass…It’s a total farce. Bashing Israel and ignoring the monster growing in Europe back yard in the name of multi-culturalism won’t save you.

5. After using military power to achieve regime change do not hand over power to a bunch of corrupt clannish gangsters just because they promise to do everything they are told as long as they can get on with business - Like the House of Saud have done for decades with total American (and other) support.

if you think you can bring Democracy on the wing of a fighter plane you remind me of G.W Bush and no, this is not a compliment. What will you do after occupying Syria, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and the rest of almost half a billion people? Make them watch pictures of Muhammed for hours to condition them? Make sure they are educated in the ‘right’ way (which happened to be you way)? You suggest to instate the ‘right’ people to govern those savages who don’t know what good for them…it reminds me of something that happened before…oh, yes, Europe has done it already 100 years ago. It worked so well you think it will work again because this time YOU chose the rulers because YOU know what these people need…sigh…

6. Try to be even handed for a change in trying to broker a peace with Israel - Actually start putting Israel under some pressure to seek peace rather than helping them to smite their enemies harder and harder. Bring land theft and occupation to an end.

Yeah, bring Israel under pressure – that’s something we haven’t tried yet…
What does your ‘peace’ looks like? Let me make it easy on you – let’s start with one small issue – who do you think can and should head the Palestinian state? Is it Hammas who enjoyed the most support on the street and actually won the majority in the last election? The Hammas who declares that there is no and will never be a Muslim man who has the right to make peace in Israel? Or the Hammas who calls in his political main manifest to kill all the Jews in the world? Maybe the Hammas who says that Israel is only the first step and later the global Jihad must bring Sharia to Europe and the rest of the world?
But they don’t really mean it, right? Even after years of repeating their agenda in the open and executing it when they can you still think you understand them better than themselves because who wouldn’t like to just enjoy his life, get educated and see his kids grow…
So let’s start with only this question – who will you give the keys for the Palestinian state and what happens if (it’s a very slim chance but let’s try hard and imagine) the Hammas continue its holy war and keep attacking Israel.

Unlike you, I don't have all the answers, This issue is much more complicated than just having a debate on campus and feeling good about ourselves. I do know that a lot of the problems in the Middle East are unsolvable in the near future, I know the foreign intervention has done more damage than good and that accepting any reason for violence conducted by political Islam is anti liberalism and anti human.

[kurogane]

Which if you believe some sources, is a small percentage of the crowds shown on the news. Not sure what some people including the loony lefties have against moderation.

Even allowing for media bias it is plain that an unbelievable proportion of the migrants bothering those poor Yugos are healthy men of fighting age. The Guardian Civilia argument is that they are going ahead to prepare for the weak and less able to come later, which should raise 2 questions to anybody not a kneejerk pity junkie: why would we need men who should be fighting and dying to do a job our professional meddling classes can do perfectly well, and why aren't those whiney turdsucking cowards fighting!!?????????

BTW check the new leftie comrade Corbyn who is running the Labour party in the UK, not much loveable about him.

As a firm Lefty tired of the squishy ones (yes, like Comrade Corbyn) I have to admit he fascinates me. The charm he lacks wore off long ago, but I still think he is the most potentially disruptive political leader since Trotsky took over the Red Army, and he should prove very interesting politically: he is a thoroughly honest man that has nothing to lose. It certainly helps to explain the UK media hatchet jobs being run on him by those sorts of newspapers (as our own Legion pointed out a while back). I think it is as much confusion as actual fear but I am enjoying watching them run around like headless yardbirds trying to figure out how he can be corralled. On a sad note, he is as much fun as old dog turds and has the mental maturity of a 12 year old at a Mock Parliament event. People that prefer principles to people are rarely much as people themselves. And nobody that wears socks with sandals should lack a Pythonesque sense and love of the absurd (as a wearer myself).

And I am breathlessly waiting to see how he is going to cock up his response to this tragedy. My inkling is that he will out-Neville Chamberlain himself. He is going from weakness to weakerness with such great aplomb that I predict he will be utterly irrelevant within 18 months, and I will still be fascinated by him. He's like a pacifist Yojimbo running amok amongst the gangsters, and I have a big bowl of popcorn.

EDIT: some twat at the Independent has queered the pitch, I say, what bother!
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/11 ... 63538.html

Independent's John Rentoul Criticised After Jeremy Corbyn Paris Attack Comment
The Huffington Post UK | By George Bowden
Posted: 14/11/2015 16:31 GMT Updated: 14/11/2015 19:59 GMT

The Independent's John Rentoul has apologised for a remark suggesting Jeremy Corbyn would blame France for Friday's terror attacks in Paris.

As details emerged of the deadliest violence in Paris since the Second World War, the columnist tweeted at 10pm on Friday, writing: "Will (Jeremy) Corbyn say France made itself a target?"

Whaddan idiot. Now we'll never know how badly he would have fucked things up if left to his own devices. The cursed press!!!!!!!!!!

[Samurai_Jerk]

Japan beefs up security near French-related facilities after attacks

The Japanese government beefed up security at locations related to French interests and elsewhere in the country on Saturday following a series of deadly terror attacks in Paris overnight.

A riot police unit was dispatched to the French Embassy in Tokyo and police patrols beefed up around the mission.

Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, in Istanbul, Turkey, to attend a Group of 20 summit, instructed his cabinet ministers to be fully alert in guarding against possible terrorist attacks, according to Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga.

[legion]

If there is a terrorist attack in Japan it will target the Japanese, not the foreigners.

[Yokohammer]

Apropos to the discussion implicating Saudi Arabia and Quatar:

There Is Only One Way to Defeat ISIS

Saudi Arabia is the world's largest source of funds for Islamist militant groups such as the Afghan Taliban and Lashkar-e-Taiba – but the Saudi government is reluctant to stem the flow of money, according to Hillary Clinton. "More needs to be done since Saudi Arabia remains a critical financial support base for al-Qaida, the Taliban, LeT and other terrorist groups," says a secret December 2009 paper signed by the US secretary of state. Her memo urged US diplomats to redouble their efforts to stop Gulf money reaching extremists in Pakistan and Afghanistan. "Donors in Saudi Arabia constitute the most significant source of funding to Sunni terrorist groups worldwide," she said. Three other Arab countries are listed as sources of militant money: Qatar, Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates. The cables highlight an often ignored factor in the Pakistani and Afghan conflicts: that the violence is partly bankrolled by rich, conservative donors across the Arabian Sea whose governments do little to stop them. The problem is particularly acute in Saudi Arabia, where militants soliciting funds slip into the country disguised as holy pilgrims, set up front companies to launder funds and receive money from government-sanctioned charities.

And another good one in The Atlantic, with more focus on the core goals and philosophy of ISIS:

What ISIS Really Wants

The Islamic State is no mere collection of psychopaths. It is a religious group with carefully considered beliefs, among them that it is a key agent of the coming apocalypse. Here’s what that means for its strategy—and for how to stop it.

[Yokohammer]

If there is a terrorist attack in Japan it will target the Japanese, not the foreigners.

Sure about that?

U.S. Warns of Possible Terrorist Attack in Japan

The U.S. embassy in Tokyo today warned Americans living in Japan to be on a heightened state of alert for possible terrorist attacks.

In a one-sentence statement released today, the embassy said it had received unconfirmed information of "terrorist actions" against U.S. military facilities or against establishments frequented by U.S. military personnel.

[chibaka]

If there is a terrorist attack in Japan it will target the Japanese, not the foreigners.

Sure about that?

U.S. Warns of Possible Terrorist Attack in Japan

The U.S. embassy in Tokyo today warned Americans living in Japan to be on a heightened state of alert for possible terrorist attacks.

In a one-sentence statement released today, the embassy said it had received unconfirmed information of "terrorist actions" against U.S. military facilities or against establishments frequented by U.S. military personnel.

Have you read that story?

The U.S. military presence in Japan has, in the past, been a contentious issue with Japanese citizens. Residents of Okinawa have periodically complained of abuse, harassment and other problems at the hands of U.S. military personnel.

In July, a U.S. Air Force senior staff sergeant was indicted by Japanese prosecutors on charges he raped a woman in Okinawa.

Sgt. Timothy Woodland, 24, who was stationed at the Kadena Air Base at the time of the alleged attack, is accused of raping the 20-year-old local woman in a parking lot at a shopping and entertainment complex known as the American Village early in the morning on June 29th.

He has denied the charge, claiming he had consensual sex with the woman.

The incident came nearly six years after the island flew into outrage when three U.S. servicemen stationed in Okinawa were accused of abducting and raping a 12-year-old schoolgirl.

The schoolgirl rape was in 1995, so this story is around 2001, even mentions the Bin Laden network

[Samurai_Jerk]

If there is a terrorist attack in Japan it will target the Japanese, not the foreigners.

Sure about that?

U.S. Warns of Possible Terrorist Attack in Japan

The U.S. embassy in Tokyo today warned Americans living in Japan to be on a heightened state of alert for possible terrorist attacks.

In a one-sentence statement released today, the embassy said it had received unconfirmed information of "terrorist actions" against U.S. military facilities or against establishments frequented by U.S. military personnel.

Have you read that story?

The U.S. military presence in Japan has, in the past, been a contentious issue with Japanese citizens. Residents of Okinawa have periodically complained of abuse, harassment and other problems at the hands of U.S. military personnel.

In July, a U.S. Air Force senior staff sergeant was indicted by Japanese prosecutors on charges he raped a woman in Okinawa.

Sgt. Timothy Woodland, 24, who was stationed at the Kadena Air Base at the time of the alleged attack, is accused of raping the 20-year-old local woman in a parking lot at a shopping and entertainment complex known as the American Village early in the morning on June 29th.

He has denied the charge, claiming he had consensual sex with the woman.

The incident came nearly six years after the island flew into outrage when three U.S. servicemen stationed in Okinawa were accused of abducting and raping a 12-year-old schoolgirl.

The schoolgirl rape was in 1995, so this story is around 2001, even mentions the Bin Laden network

Yep, that's been making the rounds on Facebook. I don't know why ABC hasn't dated the article. Wooodland was indicted in 2001 and convicted in 2002.

[Yokohammer]

Yeah, old story ...

The point was to question Legion's contention that terrorist attacks in Japan would be aimed at Japanese, not foreigners. Places where US servicemen hang out are even more likely to be targets now.

[Samurai_Jerk]

Yeah, old story ...

The point was to question Legion's contention that terrorist attacks in Japan would be aimed at Japanese, not foreigners. Places where US servicemen hang out are even more likely to be targets now.

Agreed. Westerners are often targets of Muslims terrorists regardless of location.

[Wage Slave]

And another good one in The Atlantic, with more focus on the core goals and philosophy of ISIS:

What ISIS Really Wants

The Islamic State is no mere collection of psychopaths. It is a religious group with carefully considered beliefs, among them that it is a key agent of the coming apocalypse. Here’s what that means for its strategy—and for how to stop it.

A really good article. Thanks. This bit says better what I was trying to say earlier:

It would be facile, even exculpatory, to call the problem of the Islamic State “a problem with Islam.” The religion allows many interpretations, and Islamic State supporters are morally on the hook for the one they choose. And yet simply denouncing the Islamic State as un-Islamic can be counterproductive, especially if those who hear the message have read the holy texts and seen the endorsement of many of the caliphate’s practices written plainly within them.

Also, an interesting discussion on military strategy to deal with them. The author more or less concludes it may well better to militarily bleed them death than strike a decisive blow. That's credible, but I still believe that military success without a new deal in the middle east is just another sticking plaster on a congenital condition. The likes of Halliburton, The Sunni Monarchies and Israel haven't and won't, each for their own reasons, voluntarily deliver.

[chibaka]

Yeah, old story ...

The point was to question Legion's contention that terrorist attacks in Japan would be aimed at Japanese, not foreigners. Places where US servicemen hang out are even more likely to be targets now.

And 14 years later? Nothing... There appear to be more schoolgirl murderers here than jihadists.
There is a lot of criticism of Japan's reluctance to let in foreigners, and quite rightly so. The reason given is rarely security, but usually "we don't understand them, or they don't understand us", "Japan is an island" blah blah. After seeing this shit in Paris, it makes you wonder if they have the right idea.
I think they are wrong, but I also think the scariest thing walking around my town may well be me
No Kalashnikov, no bomb vest, no snackbar chant, no wish to meet a load of virgins.. which is a pointless exercise when you just blew your bollocks off.

The media is responsible for so much misinformation, rarely worth quoting it. Oh, I just read Elvis died, fresh on ABC

[Yokohammer]

Yeah, old story ...

The point was to question Legion's contention that terrorist attacks in Japan would be aimed at Japanese, not foreigners. Places where US servicemen hang out are even more likely to be targets now.

And 14 years later? Nothing... There appear to be more schoolgirl murderers here than jihadists.
There is a lot of criticism of Japan's reluctance to let in foreigners, and quite rightly so. The reason given is rarely security, but usually "we don't understand them, or they don't understand us", "Japan is an island" blah blah. After seeing this shit in Paris, it makes you wonder if they have the right idea.
I think they are wrong, but I also think the scariest thing walking around my town may well be me
No Kalashnikov, no bomb vest, no snackbar chant, no wish to meet a load of virgins.. which is a pointless exercise when you just blew your bollocks off.

The media is responsible for so much misinformation, rarely worth quoting it. Oh, I just read Elvis died, fresh on ABC

I absolutely do not want to see any terrorist attacks happening here (or anywhere, for that matter), but we do have to be aware of the fact that there is a large US military presence here, and if people associated with the Daesh get a chance they are quite likely to have a go. Increased involvement by Japan has already attracted attention (remember Kenji Gotoh and that Haruna guy, with Jihadi John directly calling out Abe by name), so there's that to be wary of too. It hasn't happened yet, but that's no reason to expect that it won't.


~ Tapatalking ~