12 dead in Paris shooting

[Coligny]

The fact that we have a carrier group with nuclear strike capacity heading for dirkastan might not have helped...

Before they start bombing from that thing, they had better make clear their military goals.

And before that, they had better finish their investigation.

Continue... We already fly from arab states allies with Mirage 2000 and Rafale C.
The CDG allows for more daily strikes...

[wagyl]

Dammit Kuro, can't you see who I'm baiting with that?

You 'bate with Take?

[Russell]

The fact that we have a carrier group with nuclear strike capacity heading for dirkastan might not have helped...

Before they start bombing from that thing, they had better make clear their military goals.

And before that, they had better finish their investigation.

Continue... We already fly from arab states allies with Mirage 2000 and Rafale C.
The CDG allows for more daily strikes...

Isis attack on Paris may be an 'act of war' but retaliation may not be lawful

[legion]

I kind of doubt most of the young people who were killed when they were having a night out in Paris agreed with Mr. Hollande's bombing campaign. Or with the invasion of Iraq in march 2003.

plus one

These fuckers are after soft targets because the people responsible for the current conflagration are so well protected. They dress up a sky fairy fantasy into a justification for killing unarmed civilians but in reality they are a bunch of sociopaths who murdered their way to prominence. The only question is how many more innocent bystanders will get killed before they finish killing each other.

[Coligny]

The fact that we have a carrier group with nuclear strike capacity heading for dirkastan might not have helped...

Before they start bombing from that thing, they had better make clear their military goals.

And before that, they had better finish their investigation.

Continue... We already fly from arab states allies with Mirage 2000 and Rafale C.
The CDG allows for more daily strikes...

Isis attack on Paris may be an 'act of war' but retaliation may not be lawful

They didn't pay attention ?
Been flying dirkanihilathion strikes since september....

[legion]

The fact that we have a carrier group with nuclear strike capacity heading for dirkastan might not have helped...

Before they start bombing from that thing, they had better make clear their military goals.

And before that, they had better finish their investigation.

Continue... We already fly from arab states allies with Mirage 2000 and Rafale C.
The CDG allows for more daily strikes...

Isis attack on Paris may be an 'act of war' but retaliation may not be lawful

That's OK, ISIS said they missed anyway.

They might have to stop killing old ladies so they have some human shields next time.

[Russell]

The fact that we have a carrier group with nuclear strike capacity heading for dirkastan might not have helped...

Before they start bombing from that thing, they had better make clear their military goals.

And before that, they had better finish their investigation.

Continue... We already fly from arab states allies with Mirage 2000 and Rafale C.
The CDG allows for more daily strikes...

Isis attack on Paris may be an 'act of war' but retaliation may not be lawful

That's OK, ISIS said they missed anyway.

They might have to stop killing old ladies so they have some human shields next time.

It is understandable that people want immediate action, but it is better to conduct military actions under U.N. auspices. Even Bush and Cheney did better in this respect.

And, finally, are the military goals clear? If the goal is the defeat of Isis, then good luck with that using only areal bombings. Are we prepared to put boots on the ground? And if we are, how will the situation look like in 5 years time?

Questions, questions...

[Coligny]

[Coligny]

And, finally, are the military goals clear? If the goal is the defeat of Isis, then good luck with that using only areal bombings. Are we prepared to put boots on the ground? And if we are, how will the situation look like in 5 years time?

There are too much local youth unhappy with their XBox live ranking that go to Syria for training and come back to start shit.
Legally speaking it's much easier to anally probe them with Matra (*) BLU 107 Durandal in Dirkastan.

(*)Yes, the same Renault Espace 'Matra' guys, don't know so don't ask...

[wagyl]

I know that the site The Register has a few fans here. Even though it is not perfect, it is a rarity among new media in that it understands the value of a sub-editor and consistent style, and I give a standing ovation to this headline-subheadline:

Hold on, France and Russia. Anonymous is here to kick ISIS butt
Terrorists get their wish – they really will be screwed by 72 virgins

[yanpa]

I snortled.

[wuchan]

The fact that we have a carrier group with nuclear strike capacity heading for dirkastan might not have helped...

Before they start bombing from that thing, they had better make clear their military goals.

And before that, they had better finish their investigation.

Continue... We already fly from arab states allies with Mirage 2000 and Rafale C.
The CDG allows for more daily strikes...

Isis attack on Paris may be an 'act of war' but retaliation may not be lawful

France isn't going to give a shit about law and the rest of NATO will back them up. The thing about "international law" is there is no penalty if the majority (of wealthy nations) don't care. The thing people forget bout is France is a major player in the nuclear industry, they reprocess more than half of the world's spent fuel from civilian reactors. France is the adorable red head baby of the UN. Shit, even the russians will back them up.

IS probably made a big mistake. If they attacked the UK or Germany there would be some kind of debate over what to do. The french are going to, and hardy have started to, send everything they have to Syria to eradicate IS. Will it be legal? NO. Will the world care? NO. Will NATO help? You know they will. At the end of the day, the leaders of the world will finally get the full scale war they have spent the past 70 years preparing for and the enemy is a nation (yes IS is a nation at this point) that no one gives a shit about.

[Samurai_Jerk]

Hold on, France and Russia. Anonymous is here to kick ISIS butt
Terrorists get their wish – they really will be screwed by 72 virgins

[kurogane]

Dammit Kuro, can't you see who I'm baiting with that?
(obviously Japan is only western when it's convenient)

Erp. I claim defence by Poe's Law

Poe's law is an Internet adage which states that, without a clear indicator of the author's intent, parodies of extreme views will be mistaken by some readers for sincere expressions of the parodied views

PS A very funny headline, that one. Very funny.

[Yokohammer]

This is what I have been hoping to see for a long time: an authoritative response from a coalition of Muslim leaders. Not that it'll cause the Daesh fuckwits to suddenly see the error of their ways, but at least it may dilute their perceived authority somewhat. We need more of this, more often.

Muslim Scholars Release Open Letter To Islamic State Meticulously Blasting Its Ideology

Here is the executive summary of their letter:

1. It is forbidden in Islam to issue fatwas without all the necessary learning requirements. Even then fatwas must follow Islamic legal theory as defined in the Classical texts. It is also forbidden to cite a portion of a verse from the Qur’an—or part of a verse—to derive a ruling without looking at everything that the Qur’an and Hadith teach related to that matter. In other words, there are strict subjective and objective prerequisites for fatwas, and one cannot ‘cherry-pick’ Qur’anic verses for legal arguments without considering the entire Qur’an and Hadith.

2. It is forbidden in Islam to issue legal rulings about anything without mastery of the Arabic language.

3. It is forbidden in Islam to oversimplify Shari’ah matters and ignore established Islamic sciences.

4. It is permissible in Islam [for scholars] to differ on any matter, except those fundamentals of religion that all Muslims must know.

5. It is forbidden in Islam to ignore the reality of contemporary times when deriving legal rulings.

6. It is forbidden in Islam to kill the innocent.

7. It is forbidden in Islam to kill emissaries, ambassadors, and diplomats; hence it is forbidden to kill journalists and aid workers.

8. Jihad in Islam is defensive war. It is not permissible without the right cause, the right purpose and without the right rules of conduct.

9. It is forbidden in Islam to declare people non-Muslim unless he (or she) openly declares disbelief.

10. It is forbidden in Islam to harm or mistreat—in any way—Christians or any ‘People of the Scripture’.

11. It is obligatory to consider Yazidis as People of the Scripture.

12. The re-introduction of slavery is forbidden in Islam. It was abolished by universal consensus.

13. It is forbidden in Islam to force people to convert.

14. It is forbidden in Islam to deny women their rights.

15. It is forbidden in Islam to deny children their rights.

16. It is forbidden in Islam to enact legal punishments (hudud) without following the correct
procedures that ensure justice and mercy.

17. It is forbidden in Islam to torture people.

18. It is forbidden in Islam to disfigure the dead.

19. It is forbidden in Islam to attribute evil acts to God.

20. It is forbidden in Islam to destroy the graves and shrines of Prophets and Companions.

21. Armed insurrection is forbidden in Islam for any reason other than clear disbelief by the ruler and not allowing people to pray.

22. It is forbidden in Islam to declare a caliphate without consensus from all Muslims.

23. Loyalty to one’s nation is permissible in Islam.

24. After the death of the Prophet, Islam does not require anyone to emigrate anywhere.

...

Keep it coming guys.

[kurogane]

Yes to that, and for those of us that enjoy a touch of irony with their tragedy, there is a New Hope:

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/ ... 97332.html

Tony Blair launches private Middle East peace mission

Because who better to calm the troubled waters than he who did so much to turn them into a raging whirlpool?

meets

For a while I thought he was just a smug, obtuse buffoon. Now it seems he is either an utter lunatic or genuinely evil beyond belief in a manner that makes Dick Cheney look like a Care Bear

[Takechanpoo]

ISIS using ‘Playstation 4 network to recruit because it’s more secure than whatsapp’
http://metro.co.uk/2015/11/15/isis-usin ... p-5504065/

[matsuki]

You do realize how many times Sony, and the playstation network has been hacked in the past few years? "Secure" is hardly the word to describe it.

[Samurai_Jerk]

This is why the Paris attacks have gotten more news coverage than other terrorist attacks

Some analysts accuse Western media of racism ... But there is more to the story.

[...]

First, “news” is generally considered to be something especially unusual. The journalism truism is that “dog bites man” is not a story, but “man bites dog” is. That’s not a judgment on whether dog bites matter; it’s a judgment about what’s surprising.

Second, news outlets are influenced by their consumers. Human beings are especially interested in events that might affect them personally. If the media outlet’s readers or viewers are likely to feel that an event has implications for them, that will be covered as a more important story than if the events are unlikely to touch the audience’s lives.

[...]

Last year, Lebanon had more than 200 terrorist attacks, killing 114 people, according to the Global Terrorism Database. One such attack was a car bomb that killed four people, including a Hezbollah leader. Kenya was struck by terrorists more than 100 times in 2014, resulting in more than 300 deaths.

In France in 2014, however, only one person died as a result of terrorism.

For France, this year already had been more violent than last, given the attack on the offices of the satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo in January. Nonetheless, France in recent years has experienced much less terrorism than many other countries.

[...]

The attack on Paris also shocked observers around the world because many have been there, or plan to visit. France is the most visited country in the world.

This creates an “it could happen to me” factor, and also suggests that terrorism could affect someone we know.

Terrorists, of course, seek out such targets. Attacking tourism hot spots is excellent for drawing attention to their cause. The economic consequences for the tourism industry, unfortunately, can be substantial.

Because Paris is such a prominent travel destination, people from many countries have an interest in violence there, especially when tourists and other foreigners get killed. At least 25 foreigners died in the Paris attacks.

[...]

The Paris attack also stands out for the tactics used by the perpetrators. This attack played out over time in multiple public locations. It also seemed to target everyone, instead of a specific group.

[...]

Overall, these attacks were unusually terrifying precisely because they did not target a particular class of people — such as only Christians, university students, or government officials. They targeted anyone and everyone.

A life lost in this manner is not “more tragic” than a life lost in a civil war. However, it might be more newsworthy, because it’s unusual

[kurogane]

ook

[Samurai_Jerk]

King of Jordan warns of 'world war' against humanity

Jordan's King Abdullah II warned Tuesday of a "third world war against humanity", describing the Islamic State group as "savage outlaws of religion" in the wake of the Paris attacks.

During an official visit to Kosovo, Abdullah said both Europe and Islam were under attack from the "scourge" of terrorism that could strike anywhere and at any time.

"We are facing a third world war against humanity and this is what brings us all together," he told a press conference.

"This is a war, as I've said repeatedly, within Islam," he said, stressing the high number of Muslim victims of the Islamic State (IS) group.

[matsuki]

[matsuki]

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/101d95b3 ... -residents

Police standoff underway....

[Coligny]

[Coligny]

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They have the guns, fuck them we have the champagne...

[Samurai_Jerk]

Woman blows herself up, man killed, in massive Paris assault

A woman blew herself up and a suspected jihadist was killed during a huge police assault in Paris Wednesday targeting the suspected mastermind of last week's attacks in the capital.

Gunfire and explosions rocked the Saint-Denis area in the north of the capital near the Stade de France stadium from before dawn as terrified residents were evacuated or told to stay in their homes.

Authorities arrested seven people, while five police officers suffered minor injuries in the operation which turned into a seven-hour stand-off between security forces and a group of people holed up in an apartment.

[Russell]

Woman blows herself up, man killed, in massive Paris assault

A woman blew herself up and a suspected jihadist was killed during a huge police assault in Paris Wednesday targeting the suspected mastermind of last week's attacks in the capital.

Gunfire and explosions rocked the Saint-Denis area in the north of the capital near the Stade de France stadium from before dawn as terrified residents were evacuated or told to stay in their homes.

Authorities arrested seven people, while five police officers suffered minor injuries in the operation which turned into a seven-hour stand-off between security forces and a group of people holed up in an apartment.

And a police dog killed.

That woman's pieces can now go fuck the (even smaller) pieces of Jihadi John in hell.

[kurogane]

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They have the guns, fuck them we have the champagne...

That's actually a very nice one, especially considering the source. Is the champagne thing not an almost racist stereotype? At any rate, I raise my beer in appreciation.

And a police dog killed..

Ouch. Now even the Corbyn-ites will be out for blood.

[Samurai_Jerk]

Is the champagne thing not an almost racist stereotype?

It's also insensitive to teetotalers.

[dimwit]

And a police dog killed..

Ouch. Now even the Corbyn-ites will be out for blood.

No. Corbynites love cats, and thusly hate dogs which are associated with the police, property ownership and responsiblity.