Your Opinion: Is global warming causing all the hurricanes?

[AssKissinger]

What do you think?

[Tsuru]

Hmmmmmmmmm maybe....

[jingai]

I think you're asking the wrong question : )

The question should be whether you believe the changing climate is raising the probability of extreme weather events or if you just think we've been really unlucky recently. Think of it like loading the dice- more heat in the gulf means more energy for hurricaines and a higher probability of big bad storms blowing your house down.

What do climate scientists say?
http://www.realclimate.org

[GuyJean]

I like Rob Corddry's explanation; "This year, God's just being a dick."..

GJ

[AlbertSiegel]

I blame the Yakuza, Evil Pongi and Soviet Supreme.

[Taro Toporific]

SCIENTISTS WARN OF CLIMATE CHANGES -- ON MARS!...

Orbiter's Long Life Helps Scientists Track Changes on Mars
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, California / NASA
September 20, 2005
....for three Mars summers in a row, deposits of frozen carbon dioxide near Mars' south pole have shrunk from the previous year's size, suggesting a climate change in progress......more...

[This is a pen]

C. Hurricanes have increased because George Bush and the GOP are trying to wipe out Poor Minorities.

[IkemenTommy]

No, the better question to ask is whether humans are the cause of all the abnormal weather occurrences. There is no doubt in my mind that the frequent hurricanes are caused by global warming.

[Charles]

C. Hurricanes have increased because George Bush and the GOP are trying to wipe out Poor Minorities.

You jest, but seriously, look how much better organized FEMA is in Houston and Galveston than in New Orleans.

[Greji]

C. Hurricanes have increased because George Bush and the GOP are trying to wipe out Poor Minorities.

You jest, but seriously, look how much better organized FEMA is in Houston and Galveston than in New Orleans.

Since it has become a major political talking point, all parties are holding more press conferences and announcing how ready they are and how they are helping all people, trees, dogs and assundry things in Rita's path. Now will you vote for me!

It's the bureaucracy. Expect them to get organized and begin to move so they can be on top of things about three weeks after Rita disapates. This will correlate nicely with the blame Bush campaign.

[dingosatemybaby]

Japanese, to a person, seem to believe that "global warming" is a fait accompli. There's no shortage of anecdotal, and probably empirical, evidence to suggest that, at least in Japan, average temps have indeed gone up. But if so, I'm inclined to believe there are not so much global as local phenomena at work: the "heat island" effect in urban areas, breeze-blocking highrises of the kind for which Richard Gere shills, and - who knows? - pollution-rich winds from the Great Factory to the west.

[jingai]

Well, Mr. Dingo, would you care to clarify where you found that information? It wasn't an Exxon-Mobil-funded front group was it?

http://www.environmentaldefense.org/article.cfm?contentid=3804&CFID=21084385&CFTOKEN=29888831

I would consider world-wide temperature readings (land, sea) to be empirical evidence that the world is getting warmer. It's as close to stricking a thermometer up old Mother Earth as we're going to get and nobody disagrees that the earth is warming.

I'm inclined to believe there are not so much global as local phenomena at work:

What would lead you to conclude that temperature rises all over the globe are caused by local phenomena? Why would the arctic have a "heat island" effect? Too much concrete? Call me a skeptic, but this doesn't make much sense to me.

Also, some aerosols like sulfur oxides coming out of China, actually have a cooling and not a heating effect as they block sunlight. Others, like "black carbon" diesel soot have a warming effect.

[dingosatemybaby]

Well, Mr. Dingo, would you care to clarify where you found that information? It wasn't an Exxon-Mobil-funded front group was it?

http://www.environmentaldefense.org/article.cfm?contentid=3804&CFID=21084385&CFTOKEN=29888831

I would consider world-wide temperature readings (land, sea) to be empirical evidence that the world is getting warmer. It's as close to stricking a thermometer up old Mother Earth as we're going to get and nobody disagrees that the earth is warming.

I'm inclined to believe there are not so much global as local phenomena at work:

What would lead you to conclude that temperature rises all over the globe are caused by local phenomena? Why would the arctic have a "heat island" effect? Too much concrete? Call me a skeptic, but this doesn't make much sense to me.

Also, some aerosols like sulfur oxides coming out of China, actually have a cooling and not a heating effect as they block sunlight. Others, like "black carbon" diesel soot have a warming effect.

Correlation does not equal causation. But it's fun to speculate. Perhaps all that smooth grey concrete produced in Japan has an albido effect. Keep pourin', boys!

[Adhesive]

Global temp monitoring is a relatively new practice, so it would be next to impossible to know for sure whether it's warmer globally now than it was 250 years ago.

That being said, if the temps have actually gone up, how much of that increase is a biproduct of emessions and how much is caused by a naturally occuring cycle?

I've heard scientists argue both sides, and I recall many scientists in the 70's swearing that we will see a disasterous cooling-off period due to pollution.

I don't think any of us here can say with any certainty what-so-ever. But, the good news is that even if we've thrown the earth into chaos, eventually it will kill most of us off and make itself right again.

[Adhesive]

BTW: Where is the "I have no fucking clue, I'm not an atmospheric scientist" option?

[Pizzicatoblue]

nope, I have a feeling that we're gonna have a very VERY cold winter.

[GuyJean]

nope, I have a feeling that we're gonna have a very VERY cold winter.

But I thought one of the symptoms of global warming was more extreme temperatures in certain regions of the world.. So a cold winter wouldn't be evidence global warming doesn't exist.

I'm not sure if I suscribe to the whole global worming(GW) phenomenon. I try to break it down in simple terms:

pollution = bad
more 'civilized' people = more pollution
more 'civilized' people = more pollution = more bad

And as for tracking global temperatures being relatively 'new', don't scientists use core samples to determine temperatures from the days before thermometers?

Also, trace the funding for the scientists who say GW is poppycock; it usually leads to an agenda.. What monetary benefit do the GW believers have by saying they believe?

Again, I'm not sure about GW, but I'm sure money blurrs reality's vision..

GJ

[GuyJean]

[GuyJean]

UK Scientist Slams U.S. Climate 'Loonies'
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/09/23/climate.scientist.reut/index.html

A leading British scientist said on Friday the growing ferocity of hurricanes hitting the United States was very probably caused by global warming and criticized what he termed U.S. "climate loonies" over the issue.

Sir John Lawton, chairman of the Royal Commission on Environmental Pollution which advises the government, made what the Independent newspaper said was a thinly disguised attack on the stance of U.S. President George W. Bush's administration.

....

"There are a group of people in various parts of the world ... who simply don't want to accept human activities can change climate and are changing the climate. I'd liken them to the people who denied that smoking causes lung cancer."

Lawton said hurricanes were getting more intense, just as computer models predicted they would, because of the rising temperature of the sea.

What I find ironic is the 'intelligent design' believers generally don't believe in global warming;it's one of the 'natural' heating and cooling cycles of the earth.. Essentially the earth changing, or 'evolving'.. which they don't believe happens..

GJ

[cstaylor]

Isn't it obvious? God has tired of Bush and his ilk, and he's now punishing his followers. Notice how the left and right coasts are unaffected.

BushCo should go to church and pray for forgiveness.

[fatslug]

This world is coming to an end !

[GuyJean]

Too much information, buuut..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming_controversy

Have a blast!...

GJ

[IkemenTommy]

Wait.. and all this global warming is going to cause the gigantic doomsday earthquake too right?

[Buraku]

I think you're asking the wrong question : )
Think of it like loading the dice- more heat in the gulf means more energy for hurricaines and a higher probability of big bad storms blowing your house down.

What do climate scientists say?
http://www.realclimate.org

Climate change has been hijacked by the oil loving neo-con right and taken hostage by the liberal socialist lefties so a lot of papers have some agenda....real climate dot org is one of the few sources we can trust.

[Pizzicatoblue]

nope, I have a feeling that we're gonna have a very VERY cold winter.

But I thought one of the symptoms of global warming was more extreme temperatures in certain regions of the world.. So a cold winter wouldn't be evidence global warming doesn't exist.

I'm not sure if I suscribe to the whole global worming(GW) phenomenon. I try to break it down in simple terms:

pollution = bad
more 'civilized' people = more pollution
more 'civilized' people = more pollution = more bad

And as for tracking global temperatures being relatively 'new', don't scientists use core samples to determine temperatures from the days before thermometers?

Also, trace the funding for the scientists who say GW is poppycock]



Well, although I do agree with you that GW does exist, and I know it does cuz of the weather change, I've also figured that sometimes sceintist mistake heat fronts as signs of GW. you see, when mother natuer gives you a punch in the face, (like a hurricane or tonato of some sort O_o) It's just a sign of the change of seasons. I say this b/c fall is right around the corner.

[This is a pen]

I don't know if global warming exist.
But if it does, I doubt humans caused it.

Volcanos have been Putting out harmful gasses for Million/Billions of years, and The amount of Gas volcanos put out far weighs anything humans have done. (And the earth was cooling up until we started driving cars? hummm......)



You could Doubled the population of Earth and you could still fit everyone in Orange County, California.



The Pen ........Yes, I am A Tool.

[jingai]

Good one, This is a Pen.

Even funnier is Michael Crichton testifying before the senate on the science of global warming:

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=188

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/29/books/29cric.html

[Adhesive]

nope, I have a feeling that we're gonna have a very VERY cold winter.

Also, trace the funding for the scientists who say GW is poppycock]

Bias exists on ALL sides, there's no doubt about that. I just think that although man probably can alter global temperatures, so can they be altered naturally. After all, what caused the ice-age? No really, what caused it? As most of you can probably tell, I'm no geo-science buff.

I'd like to end pollution just for the fact that it makes LA look like shit, so I'm all for getting our act together...I'm just skeptical of the liberal squealers who attribute all travesty to the acts of man, or more specifically white capitalistic man.

[This is a pen]

National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) ATTRIBUTES RECENT INCREASE IN HURRICANE ACTIVITY TO NATURALLY OCCURRING MULTI-DECADAL CLIMATE VARIABILITY

[Greener]

All you have to do is take a trip to Canada to know that global warming is a crock. We still get record setting coldstreaks in the winter in my home city of Winnipeg.

One thing you have to look at is these so-called "greenhouse gases". They are too heavy to get into the stratosphere to begin with in order to cause this kind of effect. Do they cause smog? Definately, but not global warming.

We went nearly a full decade without any serious hurricane problems in the 90's after Gilbert and Andrew destroyed the Gulf Coast worse than Katrina did. (Just in areas above sea level being the only difference.) I think this is a cycle, especially in hot weather climate areas like the American south and Mexico.