Commonplace Molestation?

[AssKissinger]

99% unreported

That's a statistic.

[nullpointer]

[Indignant]
Yes. It is as common as people randomly shooting other people in North America
[/Indignant]

..uh..well whatever...

[Marvin Feltcher]

For example, what looks to be a schoolgirl gets on a train and is molstested by a man here, gropped by a man there and it only gets worse. Can someone PLEASE tell me that this is not common place, let alone accepted by the Japanese society at large?

It is true. I get paid to look through this stuff every day.
Abnormal sexuality is a daily part of Japanese lives, whether in practice or simply by being in a society where it is so blatantly available.

Women and men are groped on the trains DAILY.
Perverts flash mirrors and phone cameras up women's skirts DAILY.
Reading erotic manga in public happens DAILY (though women have started moaning about the practice in the media).
Rapes occur DAILY and they are rarely reported (mainly for the sake of vicitms, but that shouldn't mean rapists can't be vilified).
All convenience stores openly sell erotic magazines, many of which would need brown paper bags in other industrialized countries, even in places filled with Gimps and shiese movie fans like Denmark or Germany.

As to whether this is accepted by Japanese society. I'd argue yes. I'd say as far as obscenity -- physical, visual and mental -- the general opinion is still that women should just, "lay back and enjoy it," for wont of a better term. And, right or wrong, it's a fact many women accept this view, too.

But, this is all going to change. Tokyo Gov. Shintaro Ishihara has launched a clean-up campaign that is already starting to work. There are fewer dirty magazines on store shelves, the used panty trade is drying up, porno vending machines are under threat, some of the weeklies have announced they will no longer run nude pictures or obscene stories.

Japan had a moralistic crackdown on sex like this before. In the 1920s and 1930s. And we all know what else started happening then, too.

[dimwit]

99% unreported

That's a statistic.

No it's a guesstimate.

Rape is usually reported only if the perpetrator is a foreigner or if it is so bloodly obvious that the police can't ignore it.

[GuyJean]

I have heard of at least two very reliable stories of passed out women being raped in gaijin bars.

I know of two women, in the past year, that said they've been raped. One, her house was broken into and was raped by up to five men. She doesn't know how many since she was bound and blind-folded. Of course, the cops told her to tell no one.

So it is very common, and 99% unreported.

I don't know if it's common, but I'm sure it's VERY commonly unreported.

Think about where you're living]Urotsukidoji[/i]'s author, women also fantasize about being violated:
http://www.TokyoDV.com/culture/ToshioMaedaPt2.html
So maybe it's all good..

Part 1 of the interview:
http://www.TokyoDV.com/culture/ToshioMaedaPt1.html
(Interview from a Captain Japan/TokyoDV experience)

GJ

[Taro Toporific]

BTW as an Australian I have never seen kangaroos jump down the main streets in Sydney despite the common belief in other countries that this happens. :

Well I have seen Kangaroos bounding down the main street of some rural cities and the only people reacting with a WTF??? were the locals. The visitors all thought it was normal.

Sheeee-it. I've got Elk and Cougar in my backyard within a mile of the Apple Store and Bowling for Columbine high school.

[djgizmoe]

For example, what looks to be a schoolgirl gets on a train and is molstested by a man here, gropped by a man there and it only gets worse. Can someone PLEASE tell me that this is not common place, let alone accepted by the Japanese society at large?

It is true. I get paid to look through this stuff every day.
Abnormal sexuality is a daily part of Japanese lives, whether in practice or simply by being in a society where it is so blatantly available.

As to whether this is accepted by Japanese society. I'd argue yes. I'd say as far as obscenity -- physical, visual and mental -- the general opinion is still that women should just, "lay back and enjoy it," for wont of a better term. And, right or wrong, it's a fact many women accept this view, too.

But, this is all going to change. Tokyo Gov. Shintaro Ishihara has launched a clean-up campaign that is already starting to work. There are fewer dirty magazines on store shelves, the used panty trade is drying up, porno vending machines are under threat, some of the weeklies have announced they will no longer run nude pictures or obscene stories.

Japan had a moralistic crackdown on sex like this before. In the 1920s and 1930s. And we all know what else started happening then, too.

Um, the coed onsens started drying up. Dude, I don't know where you're coming from, whether you're being ironic or not or what your final analysis of the situation is, but you're making some pretty broad generalizations.

"Abnormal sexuality is a daily part of Japanese lives"?
"The general opinion is still that women should just, "lay back and enjoy it." ?!?

First, I'm married to a Japanese, which I guess means I'm the most "abnormal" thing in her sex life. And there IS a difference between saying sexually explicit materials are tolerated by many Japanese and "abnormal sexuality is a daily part of Japanese lives".

Second, "lay back and enjoy it?" I'm not even going to touch that...Suffice to say I think you're grossly underestimating the average Japanese woman. Even my least opinionated students have a "grodie jodie" reaction to pornography...

Remember that everything does not have to directly reflect sexual politics. Could be there's a unisex "sho ga nai" attitude here that discourages complaining in general, everything from attitudes towards doing unpaid overtime to putting up with noisy bosozoku rallies (but I wouldn't want to generalize ).

[NeoNecroNomiCron]

A friend of mine picked a woman who had been ditched in the mountain after a gang rape. She wouldn't go to the cops because she had been threatened:(

I have heard of at least two very reliable stories of passed out women being raped in gaijin bars.

So it is very common, and 99% unreported.

So 3 stories = Very common.

I like those statistics

[Marvin Feltcher]

you're making some pretty broad generalizations

Of course I am. We're talking about Japanese society on the whole, so it's impossible not to generalize. Therefore. just because your wife is married to you doesn't necessarily make her sexually abnormal (though your sex life, or lack thereof as may be the case, may be an entirely different matter). What I was trying to say is that nearly all Japanese are exposed to abnormal sexuality on some sort of level pretty much every day of their lives.

Second, "lay back and enjoy it?" I'm not even going to touch that...Suffice to say I think you're grossly underestimating the average Japanese woman.

Perhaps the wording was a bit inflammatory. What I meant was precisely what you mentioned a little later -- "shoganai." Few matters irk the average Japanese enough to act out against them, which is why abnormal sexuality (or at least abnormal sexuality as Westerners see it) is so widely accepted.

[GomiGirl]

Can I just add my two cents in here as a foreign chick... an opinionated foreign chick (if you haven't noticed by now) an opinionated foreign chick who was educated in a girls only school by feminist and outspoken teachers.

I find Japan less sexually predatory than anywhere else I have ever been. Sure I keep my eyes open and I make sure that I am aware of potentially dangerous situations. That said, I feel safe here.

I have yelled at a bloke for following me and I have yelled at a bloke for playing with my hair on the train and I have yelled at many street touts for hassling girls who are just walking down the street.

But, in Japan, I go anywhere I want at anytime of day or night by public transport or even walking down the streets. There is no way I would even think of walking down certain streets at night, on my own in my own home town of Brisbane. I caught the wrong subway in NYC once and ended up in a very scary area and paid a fortune for a cab to take me back to where I knew. In London I do not stop when people ask me the time. I could name many other examples.

Sure there is the dirty old and not so old guys perving on dirty manga and photos on the train. I roll my eyes at that as at least they are not trying to perve down my cleavage. These guys are complete wimps who would only be getting any from their soaplands anyway. Why should they worry me?

The gropers on the train are for the most part losers who when you call attention to their bad behaviour try to run and hide and cry to their mummies. But society is sorting these guys out. Other passengers are watching out. I have seen a girl who was uncomfortable but was too shy to say anything but it was other men on the train that dragged him off to the station master at the next station.

Gang rapes are a different matter. In a perfect world these would not happen but unfortunately they do all over the world but should be dealt with correctly and swiftly by the police and also with adequate support and medical treatment for the victims.

My pet hate are the hidious mullet headed, bad suit, slip on shoes with white sock touts at the train stations trying to either nampa or entice a girl with a certain look to work in their strip club/brothel/hostess bar. These guys are awful and something should be done about these brazen harrassments - often right in front of the police boxes at Shibuya Station. This is a sign of the lack of respect that is undercurrent here and leads people to think that they can treat women badly - it is out in the open and thus reinforced everyday. The girls concerned just put their heads in the sand and walk quickly away.

Personally I believe what will solve many of these problems is education and encouragement for women to be able to handle themselves in uncomfortable and potentially dangerous situations. Herein lies the rub. A successful paradigm shift in women's behaviour will complete change the sexual politics of Japan. Is this a good thing? On one hand women can feel more secure in their own abilities however, the demure asian princess will cease to exist. (And we all know that this is just a public face because in private many of these princesses scare even me with their strength.)

I am a bad feminist.... meaning I appreciate and enjoy the benefits of the political changes the blue stockings and bra burners have afforded me. However, politically I do not jump on the band wagon of every single female cause and try to empower every single woman I meet just because they were born with a uterus. I know some pretty stupid women that are not worth my energy. (I know some sensational women as well for whom I would raise hell if they needed something.)

Plus in this day and age there are alot of opportunities for women and if they are too lazy to do for themselves then that is their problem. It is not as if we have to wear bhurkas in the streets of Tokyo.

That said, the street nampa is a problem that has a solution if girls would just be taught that this is wrong and how to give a swift kick in the shins. But then all we will start to hear from the AK's of this world is how grouchy and cranky Japanese girls have become - just as bad as those cranky and angry foreign chicks. A double edged sword.

OK you all want your two cents back now for taking up all your time reading my little rant.

[AssKissinger]

I roll my eyes at that as at least they are not trying to perve down my cleavage.

You mean chicks don't like that?


BTW, has anyone else noticed how grouchy and cranky Japanese girls have become? They're just as cranky and angry as foreign chicks.

[GomiGirl]

I roll my eyes at that as at least they are not trying to perve down my cleavage.

You mean chicks don't like that?


BTW, has anyone else noticed how grouchy and cranky Japanese girls have become? They're just as cranky and angry as foreign chicks.

*snicker*

[Captain Japan]

My pet hate are the hidious mullet headed, bad suit, slip on shoes with white sock touts at the train stations trying to either nampa or entice a girl with a certain look to work in their strip club/brothel/hostess bar. These guys are awful and something should be done about these brazen harrassments - often right in front of the police boxes at Shibuya Station. This is a sign of the lack of respect that is undercurrent here and leads people to think that they can treat women badly - it is out in the open and thus reinforced everyday. The girls concerned just put their heads in the sand and walk quickly away.

Ok, Gomi, here's a little something you might like:

Shibuya Scouts Roll with Regulation

Often attired in well-worn black suits and sporting wavy dyed hair, these "scouts" repeatedly scan the oncoming crowd. Tokyo's Shibuya district is the ultimate gathering point for young, fashionable females dressed for attention in remarkably short skirts and snug tops, and it is this demographic that comprises the scout's prime target.

[kamome]

Shibuya Scouts Roll with Regulation

Damn, one of the best articles you've written, Captain! (other than the race queen article )

[Jushin-Thunder-Liger]

As for the other replies, I have no intention on staying home, I was simply wondering if being GANG-RAPED while riding on a train is normal, but I guess in Justin's mind, it is

The fact you even thought that, just beggers belief

Bid Manga fan, are you?

[kotatsuneko]

an touch ill thought out dig..

especially from someone who posts an awful lot on a videogame forum...

(point being made here is that a huge amount of people who come to live in japan *and those who make out they live there when in fact they just come over and hang around a small part of it, learn nothing then make out they know soooo much about it - but less of those types for now you can see ppl like those at ntscuk and the like if you like carcrashviewing- were orginally fans of an aspect/s of Japanese culture be it games/manga/music/tv/food whatever.

a lot of them still are, others evolve so their original interest/fixation just becomes a part of their everyday life and find other appreciations, they get a life.. but to make a dig like that especially with an interest that would be seen as freakish by the average person (considering the amount of time spent posting about it) be they in your own country or Japan makes an ill thought bitch like that look rather limp really...

as for my experiences with a "chijo" well, thats for my memoirs =^^=

[aquamarine]

Well what can I say? Thanks for the replys folks. So far I've been one major act of letcherism, it happened to a fellow gaijin while riding on the train back to Yokohama. Needless to say, the four of us guys didn't stand for it as we stood up for our female friend.

Otherwise, I swear my ass has been grabbed at LEAST twice, not just a pat, but a "ouch! what the?" type of grab. Although I don't like the idea, it's definatly unique!

Over-all, Im definatly enjoying Japan. Took a trip to the beach, was a letcher there myself by just gawking at all of the gorgeous women. I've also had the chance to visit Don Quixote's in Shibuya. I enter the store, look around, pick up a bottle of shampoo, go upstairs, ooh!! toys! OOH! AIRSOFT GUNS! Then turn around stunned... not sure what to make of the nearly nude schoolgirl on a bottle of "love lotion... what the?" Then my eyes focus to the rest of the wall covered in various vibrators, dildo's, anal-explorers and creams of all fashions. And all next to the toy section, go figure, only in Japan!

GOD I LOVE THIS COUNTRY!
... and now to find someplace to make me some business cards so I can get my internet modeling business back up and running! Joy!

-Aqua

[vvx]

GOD I LOVE THIS COUNTRY!
... and now to find someplace to make me some business cards so I can get my internet modeling business back up and running! Joy!

-Aqua

You run a porn site?

[mr. sparkle]

Aqua,
Glad you are enjoying yourself. I remember my first visit. It's been almost 10 years since then - DANG! I do remember it being hotter 'n hell. Your "long walk" story cracked me up. It's like exploring the moon, ain't it?

Well what can I say? Thanks for the replys folks. So far I've been one major act of letcherism, it happened to a fellow gaijin while riding on the train back to Yokohama. Needless to say, the four of us guys didn't stand for it as we stood up for our female friend.

Details man. What did the lech do and did you kick his ass?

Otherwise, I swear my ass has been grabbed at LEAST twice, not just a pat, but a "ouch! what the?" type of grab. Although I don't like the idea, it's definatly unique!

My ass ain't never been grabbed. O' course it's not worth writing home about.

Was it male or female's grabbin' ya - or did you not catch them?

Over-all, Im definatly enjoying Japan. Took a trip to the beach, was a letcher there myself by just gawking at all of the gorgeous women.

What are some of the things that you thought Japan would be before you came, that are now totally different?

I've also had the chance to visit Don Quixote's in Shibuya. I enter the store, look around, pick up a bottle of shampoo, go upstairs, ooh!! toys! OOH! AIRSOFT GUNS! Then turn around stunned... not sure what to make of the nearly nude schoolgirl on a bottle of "love lotion... what the?" Then my eyes focus to the rest of the wall covered in various vibrators, dildo's, anal-explorers and creams of all fashions. And all next to the toy section, go figure, only in Japan!

Generally, what kind of store is Don Quixote supposed to be? A Drug Store? Freaky.

GOD I LOVE THIS COUNTRY!

You are HOOKED baby. Hope you can hold out 'til I come over in a few weeks. Brewskies - Yes?

... and now to find someplace to make me some business cards so I can get my internet modeling business back up and running! Joy!

-Aqua

Goin' into the "scoutman" biz?

[Video-Link Japan]

The first thing you'll have to get used to in Japan is accepting the fact that Japan is a Man's world, in every way you can imagine.
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Most of all, smile and have fun, Japan rocks.

Jim.. good one, I remember one of the 1st things I learned here was a quote from my (japanese) father-in-law.. which roughly translated said;
"Japan is a country run by old men for old men" and something to the effect of rights and responsibilities there-in. For sure having a positive attitude and keeping an open mind makes things go much smoother..!!

For the record I've been groped on the Inokashira-sen and Yamanote line more times now than I'd bother to count, not really a good thing or bad thing, just the way it is. Maybe 'cause of the long blonde hair..

[Video-Link Japan]

dooh.. double post..

[Buraku]

Reporter doubles his pleasure
with sizzling sibling sex

http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/waiwai/0506/04sisters.html
http://www.paralumun.com/issuesjapan.htm
http://forum.japantoday.com/m_7936/mpage_2/key_/tm.htm
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/print/features/life2004/fl20040613x5.htm

How serious is sexual harassment in Japan business

[Taro Toporific]

Reporter doubles his pleasure with sizzling sibling sex
How serious is sexual harassment in Japan business

Educational!
"chuba chuba"

"How serious?" I'll plead the 5th...and then drink it.

Here in CLUB DEAD(tm), the more robust nurses admit to me that the patients--male and female--- cop a feel constantly: their boobs are "public property."
Upon my further examination, the most ample of the nurses explained, "It's just like a friendly dog that sticks its nose in your crotch. You just push it and away and pat it on the head."

[Buraku]

The Hokkaido Prefectural Government is 'considering' outlawing the purchase of used underwear from teenage girls
http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/20060201p2a00m0na008000c.html

[jingai]

So now that we've confirmed that people get molested on trains, can anyone vouch for tentacle rape? Has an octopus ever molested you at the aquarium? How about on the subway?