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China's Gearing Up To Kick Our Ass

Postby AssKissinger » Wed Nov 17, 2004 8:00 am

MrsAssKissinger wrote:Did any of yall see The River's Edge? Where Cripsin Glover says, 'It's people like you who are sending this country down the drain. Why do you think it is Russia is gearing up to kick our ass?' Well substitute Japan and China for America and Russia and, uh, you get what I mean...



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Japan and China are at their lowest ebb in years. The two countries are locked in disputes over World War II history, natural gas exploration and now a bold incursion by a Chinese nuclear submarine.

Japan's military conquest of China in the 1930s and '40s and what the Chinese see as Tokyo's reluctance to atone for its aggression have gnawed for decades at Chinese sensitivities. Japan, in turn, accuses Beijing of using history to browbeat Tokyo into providing aid and political concessions.


The countries have also squabbled over territory and natural resources. Both, for instance, claim a cluster of Japan-controled East China Sea islands, called the Senkakus in Japanese and Diaoyu in Chinese. The two are also sparring over Chinese exploration of natural gas fields near Okinawa that Japan claims could infringe on its exclusive economic zone, and they have competing plans for an oil pipeline from Siberia to East Asia.


The flare-ups illustrate an increasingly competitive relationship.

The intrusion prompted calls for greater military vigilance in Tokyo, and joined a long list of incidents that have soured the atmosphere between China and Japan.


Koizumi has angered China repeatedly since 2001, when he began making annual visits to the Yasukuni Shrine, a war memorial that Beijing and other critics deride as a glorification of Tokyo's military aggressions.

The anger overflowed dramatically in August, when rowdy Chinese fans booed, spat and burned Japanese flags when the Japanese soccer team visited for the Asian Cup tournament.
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Postby Taro Toporific » Wed Nov 17, 2004 9:54 am

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Postby AssKissinger » Wed Nov 17, 2004 12:53 pm

MrsAssKissinger wrote:Dude, you're obsessed with okama. It's Mr Crispin Glover.
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Postby Taro Toporific » Wed Nov 17, 2004 1:03 pm

MrsAssKissinger wrote:Dude, you're obsessed with okama. It's Mr Crispin Glover.


So is Reuben Far really the late AssKissinger's evil twin brother?
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Postby Socratesabroad » Wed Nov 17, 2004 7:46 pm

I don't know about all the Crispin Glover references (and I'm not particularly regretting it from the reviews of The River's Edge I read), but talk of 'China kicking ass' elicits a mere laugh from me.

As I posted elsewhere wrote:As for the blazing Chinese economy and all that, I used to think China would be an economic powerhouse - until I started living here. Now, I realize that China has the potential to be a pretty powerful nation, but they have a long way to go. Regularly serviced indoor plumbing and piping would be a start. Traffic laws of any form might also be a bonus, seeing as how pedestrians nonchalantly walk across highways and car drivers seem to consider use of items like brakes and turn signals 'optional.' Recycling/conservation of any form whatsoever, especially since they just tend to throw crap they don't need anywhere or demolish an old building and just cart the rubble away - in actual hand carts (then again, there's still a pile of trash sitting outside my apt building from a room 'reform' [renovation], oh, about 4 months ago...). Quality assurance - any Chinese store selling electrical goods will always have the salesperson show you that the actual device in question - yes, they take it out of the box right in front of you - works. Yep. Infrastructure investment - imagine approaching a large bank with a beautiful granite exterior, tinted and beveled glass windows, nicely laid brick - and a hand-printed sign saying that the revolving door is out of order, with yellowed duct tape all around indicating that the repairman's not gonna be right over.

I think you get the point.

And I think I forgot to mention that this took so long since my ADSL, the fastest available anywhere in Tianjin, is a whopping 4MB....
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Postby AssKissinger » Wed Nov 17, 2004 7:55 pm

MrsAssKissinger wrote:Sox, the stuff you posted there just indicates that China is big nasty dump. We all know that. At least I know that. I've been there. But that's like saying just because Caustic doesn't wash his ass properly he couldn't be the shit out of AK. And dude, The River's Edge is fucking awesome. Go rent it.
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Postby Socratesabroad » Thu Nov 18, 2004 1:58 pm

MrsAssKissinger wrote:Sox, the stuff you posted there just indicates that China is big nasty dump. We all know that. At least I know that. I've been there. But that's like saying just because Caustic doesn't wash his ass properly he couldn't be the shit out of AK.


I won't comment on 'ass beatings' and who would win (mainly because I don't know the level of sobriety of either combatant), but China's a different matter...

China has great potential, but right now that's all it is - potential. Like the high school quarterback who 'may be good enough to go pro,' time will tell whether China can 1) instill a true work ethic, seeing as how a large number of companies are still gov't owned and workers know they'll get paid regardless of results and 2) promote free markets and open access to information]
And dude, The River's Edge is fucking awesome. Go rent it.[/quote]
Umm, I have yet to see a video rental store anywhere in China. If I come across the DVD at one of the 'curbside' establishments, I'll take a look.
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Postby AssKissinger » Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:18 pm

From the NY Times.


July 15, 2005
Chinese General Threatens Use of A-Bombs if U.S. Intrudes
By JOSEPH KAHN
BEIJING, Friday, July 15 - China should use nuclear weapons against the United States if the American military intervenes in any conflict over Taiwan, a senior Chinese military official said Thursday.

"If the Americans draw their missiles and position-guided ammunition on to the target zone on China's territory, I think we will have to respond with nuclear weapons," the official, Maj. Gen. Zhu Chenghu, said at an official briefing.

General Zhu, considered a hawk, stressed that his comments reflected his personal views and not official policy. Beijing has long insisted that it will not initiate the use of nuclear weapons in any conflict.

But in extensive comments to a visiting delegation of correspondents based in Hong Kong, General Zhu said he believed that the Chinese government was under internal pressure to change its "no first use" policy and to make clear that it would employ the most powerful weapons at its disposal to defend its claim over Taiwan.

"War logic" dictates that a weaker power needs to use maximum efforts to defeat a stronger rival, he said, speaking in fluent English. "We have no capability to fight a conventional war against the United States," General Zhu said. "We can't win this kind of war."

Whether or not the comments signal a shift in Chinese policy, they come at a sensitive time in relations between China and the United States.

The Pentagon is preparing the release of a long-delayed report on the Chinese military that some experts say will warn that China could emerge as a strategic rival to the United States. National security concerns have also been a major issue in the $18.5 billion bid by Cnooc Ltd., a major Chinese oil and gas company, to purchase the Unocal Corporation, the American energy concern.

China has had atomic bombs since 1964 and currently has a small arsenal of land- and sea-based nuclear-tipped missiles that can reach the United States, according to most Western intelligence estimates. Some Pentagon officials have argued that China has been expanding the size and sophistication of its nuclear bombs and delivery systems, while others argue that Beijing has done little more than maintain a minimal but credible deterrent against a nuclear attack.

Beijing has said repeatedly that it would use military force to prevent Taiwan from becoming a formally independent country. President Bush has made clear that the United States would defend Taiwan.

Many military analysts have assumed that any battle over Taiwan would be localized, with both China and the United States taking care to ensure that it would not expand into a general war between the two powers.

But the comments by General Zhu suggest that at least some elements of the military are prepared to widen the conflict, perhaps to persuade the United States that it could no more successfully fight a limited war against China than it could against the former Soviet Union.

"If the Americans are determined to interfere, then we will be determined to respond," he said. "We Chinese will prepare ourselves for the destruction of all the cities east of Xian. Of course the Americans will have to be prepared that hundreds of cities will be destroyed by the Chinese."

General Zhu's threat is not the first of its kind from a senior Chinese military official. In 1995, Xiong Guangkai, who is now the deputy chief of the general staff of the People's Liberation Army, told Chas W. Freeman, a former Pentagon official, that China would consider using nuclear weapons in a Taiwan conflict. Mr. Freeman quoted Mr. Xiong as saying that Americans should worry more about Los Angeles than Taipei.

Foreign Ministry officials did not immediately respond to requests for comment about General Zhu's remarks.

General Zhu said he had recently expressed his views to former American officials, including Mr. Freeman and Adm. Dennis C. Blair, the former commander in chief of the United States Pacific Command.

David Lague of The International Herald Tribune contributed reporting for this article.
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Postby Buraku » Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:54 pm

nothing to see here

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Re: China's Gearing Up To Kick Our Ass

Postby GuyJean » Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:22 pm

Taro Toporific wrote:Who's the transexual in the video sequence of the Letterman show?
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Postby cstaylor » Fri Jul 15, 2005 7:49 pm

Considering that there would be nothing left of China but the charred remnants of a once-great civilization, threatening full-scale nuclear war is a road they should not take. :roll:
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Postby dingosatemybaby » Fri Jul 15, 2005 7:57 pm

cstaylor wrote:Considering that there would be nothing left of China but the charred remnants of a once-great civilization, threatening full-scale nuclear war is a road they should not take. :roll:


On the plus side, their proud loogie-hoicking tradition remains unvanquished. Plus, who says they don't recycle? I've seen buckets of urine on the side of the road there that they seem to be saving for some dubious purpose. God knows what.
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Postby Buraku » Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:25 am

Don't forget Dokdo / Takeshima and all those other stupid little islands and rocks that Nippon claims
cause they grabbed them prior to getting an ass kicking in WW2
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the Russians ain't happy about it either
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Postby AssKissinger » Sun Jul 17, 2005 9:40 am

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1529&e=9&u=/afp/20050716/wl_asia_afp/japanchinaenergygas_050716074108

Sino-Japan test-drilling dispute could lead to confrontation: newspaper Sat Jul 16, 3:41 AM ET



BEIJING (AFP) - An intensifying row between China and Japan over disputed energy reserves in the East China Sea could "lead to confrontation", an editorial in China's state-run press said.


"Japan is muddying the waters of the East China Sea," the leading English-language China Daily said.

"It is stamping on China's maritime rights by granting Japanese firm Teikoku Oil Co the right to test drill for gas and oil in a part of the East China Sea disputed by the two countries.

"Japan's move could lead to confrontation with China."

China's pleas with Tokyo to back off on the exploration had "fallen on deaf ears," the newspaper said.

"Japan has strayed from the path of dialogue. If a confrontation were to result, the blame would sit firmly with Japan," it said.
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Postby Buraku » Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:17 pm

test-drilling dispute could lead to confrontation ?


what do the Russians think of Japan ?



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Postby AssKissinger » Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:03 pm

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060228/ap_on_re_as/china_taiwan&printer=1;_ylt=A9G_RySXRQREiVIA0A79xg8F;_ylu=X3oDMTA3MXN1bHE0BHNlYwN0bWE-

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Taiwanese President Chen Shui-bian "is determined to push 'Taiwan independence' to create antagonism and conflict within Taiwan and across the strait," the ruling Communist Party said in a statement carried by the official Xinhua News Agency.

"It will only bring disaster to Taiwan society," the statement said.


The U.S. should "take concrete actions to oppose secession activities of Taiwan independence," said spokesman Liu Jianchao. He did not say what specific actions Beijing wanted Washington to take.

The U.S. government is obligated by federal law to see that Taiwan has the means to defend itself. :?: :?: :?:


Beijing has hundreds of missiles aimed at Taiwan, just 100 miles off its southeastern coast.
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Postby Big Booger » Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:43 pm

What is wrong with Taiwan being independent? Either way it should be a vote by the Taiwanese people... why must China try to maintain control?
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Postby Kanchou » Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:40 am

Because China is like a little kid with a toy... if it can't have Taiwan, no one can.

Besides that, I'm sure the commies don't take to well to losing power over anything that they consider theirs... just like any colony at any point in history.

Or the same reason the US didn't want South Korea or South Vietnam to fall into the hands of the commies... which is "just because"
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Postby American Oyaji » Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:33 pm

China would lose control of Taiwan's tech industry. THAT is why they keep it.
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Postby L S » Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:25 pm

Every Taiwan tech company has plants in China and increasingly engineering centers in China...it's moving over there anyway...
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Postby Charles » Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:29 pm

Ha Ha Ha America

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Postby Socratesabroad » Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:04 am

China hand america free business lesson


That's pretty rich. Let's see, I live in Tianjin, apparently the third largest city in China...

And my power went out last week.

So much for 'rich China.'

Every time my 25-year-old math tutor starts prattling on about China overtaking the West in 25 years and the need to preemptively strike Japan, I ask him what PC he uses. Oh, he's borrowing my laptop. See, as a grad student he can't afford his own. Then again, few college or grad students can. And the university has 7 or more classes per major sharing the PC labs, so he's SoL there.
And then I ask about software. Come to find out, my legit copy of XP is one of the few registered versions with valid support.
And then I ask about his net connection. Oh, it's dirt cheap but then again it's 1 MB and he has a monthly DL limit of somewhere around 400 MB.

So let's see
a new bare-bones PC: 3500 yuan
XP + Ofc (legit): 3500 yuan
ADSL (4 MB): 250 yuan

Given an office worker's avg salary of 3000 yuan a month, educated Chinese might be able to swing a PC with reasonable net access after the first couple of years of full-time work. Providing they're not married and don't have kids.

Sure, I can see how China's just nipping at the West's heels.
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Postby maraboutslim » Mon Mar 06, 2006 4:17 pm

Socratesabroad wrote:That's pretty rich. Let's see, I live in Tianjin, apparently the third largest city in China...And my power went out last week. So much for 'rich China.'


Well, I live 10 minutes from San Francisco and power has been out to basically our whole city twice in the last week. 5 hours last Monday and 3 hours today. Shit happens.
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Postby AssKissinger » Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:33 pm

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060309/wl_asia_afp/japantaiwanchinapoliticsaso_060309074243

Japan's outspoken Foreign Minister Taro Aso has called Taiwan a law-abiding "country" in the latest of a series of remarks that risk angering Beijing, which considers the island part of China.


Taiwan is "a law-governed country as its democracy is fairly mature and liberalism has taken root in its economy," Aso told a parliamentary committee, according to Jiji Press news agency.

Recognizing Taiwan as a country goes against the official stance of Japan, which declared Beijing the only legitimate government of China when it normalized relations in 1972.


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Postby Buraku » Sat Apr 01, 2006 1:28 am

Taiwan is a lost cause so if Japan wants to fight for that shithole alone then fine go ahead Banzai-Wapanaese and kamikaze yourselves to death, but the Koreans already hate you over a bunch of rocks...so what about this Taiwan shit ?

but the Chinese own it already like they own Macau but they just don't tell nobody

Plus GW already did a U-turn on Taiwan with his 'One-China' speech




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The battle for shitty little islands is already lost without a single missile being fired, but the battle for the skies rages on

think - DEATH FROM ABOVE !!

U.S. losing space race, congressmen say
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Some congressmen believe the United States and China are in an unacknowledged space race that this country could lose if it doesn't spend more money on the civilian space program.

The communist nation's military runs its manned space program, employs an estimated 200,000 workers and has set a goal of putting an astronaut on the moon by 2017.

By contrast, the National Aeronautics and Space Administration is a civilian government program with a limited budget that directly employs fewer than 20,000 civil servants and has lost the commanding lead it once held over the rest of the world in human space exploration.

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on right now and the American people are totally unaware of all this," said Rep. Tom DeLay, the Texas Republican whose district includes Johnson Space Center near Houston....


....."The American people have no idea how massive the China space program is," Kirk said.

The first-of-its-kind, behind-the-scenes tour revealed a modern high-tech facility that would be the envy of NASA employees, some of whom still work out of buildings more than 40 years old, Rep. Tom Feeney, R-Oviedo, told FLORIDA TODAY in February after participating in the China tour
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Postby Greji » Sat Apr 01, 2006 7:39 am

Buraku wrote:but the battle for the skies rages on

think - DEATH FROM ABOVE !!


Buraku, you're not going to happy until somebody launches a bayonet charge on China, are you. Well, maybe if China overruns some other country and offers up an invitation to get nuked. That might fancy you deshouuu?
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Postby cstaylor » Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:10 am

gboothe wrote:Well, maybe if China overruns some other country and offers up an invitation to get nuked. That might fancy you deshouuu?

You mean like the way they got their asses handed to them by the Vietnamese in the early 80's?

China could overtake the world in energy production if they could just harness all the hot air coming out of their young people. :roll:
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Postby homesweethome » Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:23 pm

cstaylor wrote:You mean like the way they got their asses handed to them by the Vietnamese in the early 80's?

China could overtake the world in energy production if they could just harness all the hot air coming out of their young people. :roll:


Are you recommending the 'Big Booger Home Heating' method?

I think he has a patent on that.

What about cooling in the summer?

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Postby Buraku » Sun Apr 02, 2006 2:35 am

The US military plans to detonate a 700-tonne explosive charge in a test called "Divine Strake" that could send a mushroom cloud over Las Vegas, a senior defense official said Thursday.
http://www.spacewar.com/reports/US_To_Test_700_tonne_Explosive.html
"I don't want to sound glib here but it is the first time in Nevada that you'll see a mushroom cloud over Las Vegas since we stopped testing nuclear weapons," said James Tegnelia, head of the Defense Threat Reduction Agency.
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Postby Greji » Tue Apr 04, 2006 4:22 pm

Since I like fireworks, I hope this news is not to restrictive on Buraku's plan to have Beijing nuke Tokyo next week, but things do seem to be getting back to normal, don't they?

Japan investment in China jumps to record $ 6.5 billion

BEIJING (Kyodo) Japanese investment in China in 2005 jumped 19.8 percent from a year earlier to a record-high $ 6.5 billion, even as investment from the United States and South Korea dropped, a Japanese government-linked trade organization said Monday.

Japanese investment grew in the latter half of the year, as companies that had held back due to the anti-Japan demonstrations last April regained confidence in the market, said a report by the Japan External Trade Organization's Beijing office.

Other reasons for the surge include a series of large-scale investments by Japanese automakers that prompted car parts companies to set up manufacturing bases in China, the report says.
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