4 Marines accused in Hiroshima rape

[Mike Oxlong]

Yeah, I don't know how many times as an Engrish teacher I heard stories of some OL getting taken out for drinks by a sempai, only to be molested or raped later on. Seems the gals could or wanted to talk about it in Enrish to get it off their chest, so to speak. They would never report the incident to the cops (I asked), or see counsellors in Japan/Japanese. Doubtful they'd get much sympathy. Report abuse by a foreign devil, and it's a surefired way to be believed and get major sympathy/action.

Right or wrong, that's the way it is.

[American Oyaji]

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[ttjereth]

In response to TC:

All those statistics would mean a lot IF:

1. White neighborhoods were patrolled as much and normal citizens in their daily lives were hounded by police the way they are in black neighborhoods.

Know this is an old message and all, but I just wanted to respond to this point.

First off disclaimer, I am white and have been as long as I can remember.

However, I grew up in North Philadelphia (Olney/Feltonville to be specific for anyone who knows the area).

Feltonville tended to be more racially mixed with higher percentages of asians and latinos than Olney, which was mostly black, but in both neighborhoods (they are right across the road from each other, and I lived in both back forth over the time from elementary school to graduating high school, my mother's family lived in Olney until just a few years ago) whites were actually a minority (even counting eastern European immigrants) and just about the ONLY time we ever saw police was when someone explicity called them.

I would in fact, argue that that was a large part of the reason for higher crime rates in the area than in more predominantly white areas further northeast.

[Uhhuh35]

So, I've used "African-American" and "black(s)" throughout my posts, yet the singular use of the word "Negro" (and my tone) mark me as a racist? Well, that's surprisingly much easier than I would have guessed!

Libtards are always looking for any insult, no matter how slight, to marginalize anyone in opposition to them because they can't argue the facts. And in this case it's pretty clear the poster is using ethnicity as a PC weapon to shut you up.

[Mike Oxlong]

http://www.japantoday.com/jp/news/420598

[oyajikun]

Police decide not to seek arrest of 4 U.S. Marines for alleged rape
http://www.japantoday.com/jp/news/420635

"HIROSHIMA — Police have decided to forgo seeking arrest warrants for four U.S. Marines from the Iwakuni base in Yamaguchi Prefecture on suspicion of gang-raping a 19-year-old Japanese woman in Hiroshima earlier this month, investigative sources said Friday. Police have investigated the case but have decided against their arrest because there are some uncertainties about the situation, according to the sources.

Police said last week that the four were suspected of sexually assaulting the woman in a parked car in the early hours of Oct 14 in Hiroshima's Naka Ward, after they met her at an event in the same ward and took her out of the car."

Too early to tell, but obviously, the foot can be tucked into ones mouth, black, yellow or white.

[Takechanpoo]

It is to blame that this J-trash is nikubenki.
I feel sorry for 4 black servicemen.

As I thought!!!!

[TennoChinko]

Know this is an old message and all, but I just wanted to respond to this point.

First off disclaimer, I am white and have been as long as I can remember.

However, I grew up in North Philadelphia (Olney/Feltonville to be specific for anyone who knows the area).

Feltonville tended to be more racially mixed with higher percentages of asians and latinos than Olney, which was mostly black, but in both neighborhoods (they are right across the road from each other, and I lived in both back forth over the time from elementary school to graduating high school, my mother's family lived in Olney until just a few years ago) whites were actually a minority (even counting eastern European immigrants) and just about the ONLY time we ever saw police was when someone explicity called them.

I would in fact, argue that that was a large part of the reason for higher crime rates in the area than in more predominantly white areas further northeast.

It's not like I haven't heard the argument "higher crime rate amongst blacks due to over-aggressive policing actions". However, I don't think even the densest of us here would claim it fully explains the fact that blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.

We are willing to discuss other grouped differences when discussing crime such as differences in gender, age and marital status, but with only with race do we get COMPLETELY UNEQUIVOCALLY IRRELEVANT !!!!!!!!! As distasteful and uncomfortable it may be for some people, I don't agree - it is relevant.

The uncomfortable - but fortunately relatively rare - pattern regarding accusations of gang rapes by US military personnel ending up being almost always African-Americans is troubling. And, not a simple coincidence that deserved to be blindly ignored or overlooked. Nor, might it be a product of overzealous policing by either the Japanese police or US military law enforcement agencies.

Even the most politically-correct zealot - if honest with themselves - will also have to admit that the next time a suspected gang rape by US military is reported -- they will also not be surprised to hear all suspects are African-American.

The stigma of racial profiling. Unfortunately even the Rev. Jesse Jackson has admitted to it when discussing the problem of young African-American men. He too will cross the street if they happen to be coming up behind him. I guess that makes him a racist too.

[American Oyaji]

Tenno,
You lost your girl to black dude, didn't you.

No need to lie. I know it happened.

[ttjereth]

It's not like I haven't heard the argument "higher crime rate amongst blacks due to over-aggressive policing actions". However, I don't think even the densest of us here would claim it fully explains the fact that blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.

Sorry, let me clarify what I was saying.

AO said

1. White neighborhoods were patrolled as much and normal citizens in their daily lives were hounded by police the way they are in black neighborhoods.

To which I was trying to say that in the two mostly black neighborhoods I grew up in, there wasn't any problem with excessive police presence. Quite the opposite. The police were hardly ever around, and generally took a considerable amount of time arriving even when called.

Not speaking to general police behavior attitudes towards blacks, effect on proclivity to commit crimes etc., just that it had been my experience that if anything that the black neighborhoods tended to be patrolled significantly less than white neighborhoods.

[Greji]

Tenno,
You lost your girl to black dude, didn't you.

No need to lie. I know it happened.

Probably had a bigger johnson as well. Of course that leaves you out as the perp AO. No offense tho....

[TennoChinko]

It appears that the case is now dead in the water. Dismissed.

Apparently the victim was okay with doing a dp with two gung-ho Marines, but four was a crowd. Unfortunately, according to conservative Japanese prosecutors, a victim initially consenting to a 3P simply makes her a kokujo slut in their eyes.








Case crosed.

[xenomorph42]

Tenno,
You lost your girl to black dude, didn't you.

No need to lie. I know it happened.

I think so too or he got his ass kicked by one. Probably the individual had style and charisma and TC felt jilted. Sad to say, it happens to the best of us. Some people take it waaaay too personal. This stems from the persons own insecurity and having an inferiority complex. In order to justify their racist views, which were totally debunked on this topic. When people start using propaganda sites such as "American Renaissance" a smear machine and claim it as a reliable source have some real serious issues.

[xenomorph42]

It appears that the case is now dead in the water. Dismissed.

Apparently the victim was okay with doing a dp with two gung-ho Marines, but four was a crowd. Unfortunately, according to conservative Japanese prosecutors, a victim initially consenting to a 3P simply makes her a kokujo slut in their eyes.








Case crosed.

Now, now TC...let us just say for arguments sake, that is true, why would she be a "kokujo" slut? If they were white, what would you call her. And how do you know what the people are thinking, did you go and gave personal interviews or asked personal opinions about their feelings? For some strange reasons, you always leave out, generalize and cherry-pick statements you cannot back up. If you have a personal vendetta against blacks, just say so, but stop using the race card to insinuate and speculate on something you want to make bigger that shouldn`t be.

Also, I think you are one of those types of guys that get irritated when they see a black guy with a asian woman, to me that is the funniest thing. With 137+million people in this country, guys like "you" worry about too much. There are enough women for you. Some asian women like blacks guys, some white, some asian and other ethnic men. Again, if you were jilted, got your ass beat or you look like crap, pull yourself up and get your head on straight and forget this childish nonsense! Because, guess what...you will always see that and it ain`t gonna change, no matter how much it bothers you to see it. Get this asian women belong to the white men crap out of your head.
They belong to No one! They are independent, self-minded individuals. They go out with whom they please and you don`t have that right to "chastise" them because of that. That is their choice. The issue is not about color, it never was, it was about your inner feelings towards blacks and this was the perfect opportunity to spew your anger and animosity to denigrate ALL blacks and to use this topic as a scapegoat to justify your (false)accusations . Like I said, I see right through you and perhaps no one wants to openly attest to this, but I am calling it as I see it and I have been around your ilk too often, I know exactly what your game plan is and you got hosed and exposed for the racist you really are and you just proved it with this last comment you made.
So go and look inside yourself and search for those little demons and try to confront them and ask them to how you can cleanse your tainted soul.

[TennoChinko]

Now, now TC...let us just say for arguments sake, that is true, why would she be a "kokujo" slut? If they were white, what would you call her. ----

I was referencing the attitudes of the Japanese LEO and prosecutors down in Iwakuni. Take your case up with them. And, the term for Japanese women who chase white US military personnel is amejo. If you spent any time down there - especially in Okinawa - you'd know it wasn't such a big deal.

And, if the perps were white - I believe the same conservative Japanese prosecutors would also consider her a slut.

[xenomorph42]

I was referencing the attitudes of the Japanese LEO and prosecutors down in Iwakuni. Take your case up with them. And, the term for Japanese women who chase white US military personnel is amejo. If you spent any time down there - especially in Okinawa - you'd know it wasn't such a big deal.

And, if the perps were white - I believe the same conservative Japanese prosecutors would also consider her a slut.

I understand and am well aware of both terms. Also, I don`t need to take issue with anyone in Iwakuni, but I know the area quite well, but that is way off the mark. My beef is with you and how you sneakingly try to distort the facts. I just think it was totally irresponsible on your part to make this a racial issue from the start when it clearly was not.
The issue was about rape and to interject race into the conversation, you knew full well, the color of an individuals skin color does not conclude, rapist or for that matter, potential.

[TennoChinko]

I understand and am well aware of both terms. Also, I don`t need to take issue with anyone in Iwakuni, but I know the area quite well, but that is way off the mark. My beef is with you and how you sneakingly try to distort the facts. I just think it was totally irresponsible on your part to make this a racial issue from the start when it clearly was not.
The issue was about rape and to interject race into the conversation, you knew full well, the color of an individuals skin color does not conclude, rapist or for that matter, potential.

We have a (thankfully rare) but consistent pattern of shared characteristics:

1 - male
2 - US military
3 - NCO (versus officers)
4 - in a group
5 - African-American
6 - gang-rape involving under-aged Japanese victims

And, yet the politically-correct thing to do is to completely ignore Item 5
Moreover, mentioning Item 5 makes one a bigot and racist? Hard to swallow, but that's the part I have difficulty with. Being told that Item 5 'does not exist' is like a reverse-version of the kid in the Emperor's New Clothes.

Stats count all the time. If an African-American makes 100 calls stateside regarding housing (and has an identifiable black 'accent') and we find compared to the white-sounding control, the rejection rate is two-fold - yep, we definitely know we've got a (discrimination) problem. Tracers do work both ways - but not in these cases apparently.

Although I don't wish any further incidents on anyone by anyone, I wish it were the case that when a future incident arises, we would not simply know that the perps were African-American servicemen. Throw in a couple of Asian, white and Hispanic perps to diversify the blend of gang-rapists - and stress that as a percentage of crimes committed in Japan, the rate amongst US servicemen is lower than the general population... blah, blah, blah.

The price the US government and the military had to pay in terms of the lost goodwill and negotiating position with the Japanese in the Oki gang-rape incident was HUGE. Hopefully there will be no 'next time' but I am not sure that'll be the case. If/when it does happen, any guess as to the identity of the perps? A few white O2's and O3's might smooth it out a bit...

[GomiGirl]

Moreover, mentioning Item 5 makes one a bigot and racist? .

No, but harping on it over and over trying to distort facts to get people to agree with you, does.

It is like the Japanese media harping on that any criminal or suspect in Japan that is not Japanese is not just called a "suspect" but a "foreign suspect" which just goes to foster fear and mistrust of anybody foreign in Japan.

It is just not helpful. A criminal is a criminal, a rapist is a rapist. They should be dealt with in the same manner and not used as a political tool to further your own (or anybody else's) agenda of fear and bigotry in the broader community.

[amdg]

No, but harping on it over and over trying to distort facts to get people to agree with you, does.

It is like the Japanese media harping on that any criminal or suspect in Japan that is not Japanese is not just called a "suspect" but a "foreign suspect" which just goes to foster fear and mistrust of anybody foreign in Japan.

It is just not helpful. A criminal is a criminal, a rapist is a rapist. They should be dealt with in the same manner and not used as a political tool to further your own (or anybody else's) agenda of fear and bigotry in the broader community.

Graped for 'Great Rape' post

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[American Oyaji]

What exactly is the meaning for わいせつ?

I've heard this as a play on words as Y-shirtsu, but I'm unsure of the originals meaning.

[Greji]

[quote="American Oyaji"]What exactly is the meaning for わ]

I don't mean to come down on ya hard with this Bro, but it is from White. Simply stated it was first a contraction for White Shirts, but it has since come to mean any shirt you that you would wear with a suit and tie.

Since showing off my genius gives me great pleasure, I won't tell you that I asked my wife.

[Mulboyne]

[American Oyaji]

Mul, I DID look it up in a dictionary and it was not there, and I looked online, but I did not feel like wading through the crap to find a definite answer.

Plus, my more reliable dictionary is at work and I havent left for work yet.

[Greji]

Mul, I DID look it up in a dictionary and it was not there, and I looked online, but I did not feel like wading through the crap to find a definite answer.

Plus, my more reliable dictionary is at work and I havent left for work yet.

I suppose you don't want any more obscene answers like my wife's, so let's go back to Mulboyne's Osaka ben "cut her shattsu".

[American Oyaji]

Actually, I think I do boothie.

I just looked it up in my better dictionary (which sits on my desk at work).

[Greji]

Actually, I think I do boothie.

I just looked it up in my better dictionary (which sits on my desk at work).

hehehe:p

[fucked]

Sorry for the late post.
If you stilll need to know, the definition of わいせつ is:
わいせつ 猥褻
#わいせつな obscene; filthy; dirty; improper; indecent; pornographic; risqu#; bawdy (こっけい味を伴って); 《米》 off‐color
#わいせつな絵 an obscene [a pornographic] picture.
猥褻行為 《commit》 an act of obscenity
猥褻罪 public indecency; obscenity
#わいせつ罪で 《arrest sb》 on obscenity charges
猥褻図書 an indecent book; pornography
猥褻文書 indecent writings; pornography.
[株式会社研究社　新英和・和英中辞典]

[Iraira]

[fucked]

For gaijin, it's beastiality, but for Japanese men it's petting