Air Self-Defense Force Chief Sacked

[omae mona]

Air Self-Defense Force chief Toshio Tamogami put his foot in his mouth one too many times.

NYT: Japan Official Fired for War Views

TOKYO (Reuters) - Japan's defense minister said on Friday he will sack the air force chief of staff for saying that Japan was ensnared into World War Two by the United States and was not an aggressor in the conflict in Asia.

General Toshio Tamogami's essay, posted on the website of a Japanese hotel and apartment developer, was expected to rouse anger in China and South Korea, where memories of Japan's wartime acts and colonization run deep.
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"Even now there are many people who think that our country's aggression caused unbearable suffering to the countries of Asia during the Greater East Asia War," Tamogami wrote in the essay.

"But we need to realize that many Asian countries take a positive view of the Greater East Asia War. It is certainly a false accusation to say that our country was an aggressor nation," he said.

This is not the first time Tamogami has gotten in trouble for opening his mouth.


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Kyodo: Ishiba chides ASDF chief over remarks on Iraq mission
Apr.22.2008 13:12 JST

Defense Minister Shigeru Ishiba chided Air Self-Defense Force chief Gen. Toshio Tamogami on Tuesday for using a popular comedian's signature phrase when commenting last week on a court ruling that judged the controversial ASDF mission in Iraq to be unconstitutional.

"I feel his choice of words was a bit awkward," Ishiba told reporters, referring to the expression, "Sonna no kankei nee" (That doesn't matter) which Tamogami uttered at a press conference Friday in an apparent attempt to say the ASDF's mission will not be affected by the judicial judgment.

[Buraku]

Yeah I know a lot of these J-dudes are old fascist dinosaurs that somehow survived and thrived the post ww2 reform years

but why the fuck haven't they learned to keep their stupid yap shut?

This Toshio Tamogami fuckup is out of a job because he couldn't zip it, maybe Nihon Seinensha or some other group with the loudspeaker black buses can pay off his pension

[amdg]

He'll keep his pension. He's just saying what eveyone else wants to say, but are too smart to say in public.

[TFG]

"I feel his choice of words was a bit awkward," Ishiba told reporters, referring to the expression, "Sonna no kankei nee" (That doesn't matter) which Tamogami uttered at a press conference Friday in an apparent attempt to say the ASDF's mission will not be affected by the judicial judgment.
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I wonder why the above is mentioned as the judicial system is and should be governing these toy soldiers.

[blackcat]

By being sacked are the Japanese Government admitting that they were the aggressor nation (because they were)? That life under these racist pricks was little different as life under their Allies...the Nazis!

[Takechanpoo]

Objectively what Gen.Tamogami wrote is not mistaken. But from the pradigm of the Allies of WW2, it is mistaken, needless to say.

By the way, if you gaijins have read nothing but the English books or articles of the history of Japan or North East Asia, reserve your careless comments or you should preface with the comment of "Excuse me, although I have ever read Japanese history by only English books..." before commenting.
This is not a proposal but an order.

[Mulboyne]

Yomiuri: Contest organizer confirmed Tamogami would accept prize

The organizer of an essay competition won by former Air Self-Defense Force Chief of Staff Toshio Tamogami with a composition that resulted in his dismissal contacted Tamogami prior to announcing him as the winner to confirm he wanted to accept the prize, The Yomiuri Shimbun has learned. A member of the judging panel brought to the organizer's attention that the selection of Tamogami's essay could have ramifications for the former chief of staff's career. Tamogami, 60, was dismissed Friday for claiming in his essay "Was Japan an Aggressor Nation?" that Japan was not an aggressor in the Sino-Japanese War and World War II--a stance that deviates from an official statement released in 1995 by then Prime Minister Tomiichi Murayama and is counter to government foreign policy.

The competition organizer, APA Group, a Minato Ward, Tokyo-based condominium developer and hotel operator, invited entrants in May to submit essays addressing "True perspectives of modern and contemporary history." A member of the judging panel asked an APA official whether Tamogami's position remain secure if his essay was selected as the winner. Shoichi Watanabe, head of the judging panel and a professor emeritus at Sophia University, said the APA awarded Tamogami's essay first prize after it explained to him that Tamogami had said he would accept it.

The judging panel initially whittled down the about 230 entries to about 20. Judges were informed of the backgrounds of the top four entrants at the final screening stage. According to the Defense Ministry, Tamogami has not yet accepted his 3 million yen prize money and tickets for complimentary hotel stays.

[GuyJean]

Japan fires Military Chief over WWII Denial



http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/11/03/japan.war.role/index.html

A state-run Chinese newspaper expressed relief Monday that senior Japanese officials had dismissed the country's air force chief after he denied Japan's aggression before and during World War II.

Gen. Toshio Tamogami lost his job as chief of staff for Japan's Air Self-Defense Force, the Ministry of Defense said, after saying in an essay that "it is certainly a false accusation to say that our country was an aggressor nation."

Japanese troops invaded China in 1937 and were widely accused of gross human rights abuses, including raping tens of thousands of girls and women and killing several hundred thousand others in what has come to be called "The Rape of Nanking." Imperial Japan also invaded several other Asian nations, leading to the death and misery for an untold number...

GJ

* edit: I knew someone had to have posted this.. CNN was only 2 days later than FG.

[Takechanpoo]

If Uncle Sam didn't participated in Pacific War, Japan could had also colonized Aussie land! DAMN!!!:mad:

[Greji]

If Uncle Sam didn't participated in Pacific War, Japan could had also colonized Aussie land! DAMN!!!:mad:

Take, some how I don't think the word is "colonized".

[wuchan]

If Uncle Sam didn't participated in Pacific War, Japan could had also colonized Aussie land! DAMN!!!:mad:

If japan didn't bomb pearl harbor the US would have let them.

[Greji]

If japan didn't bomb pearl harbor the US would have let them.

Aussie's might have had something to say about that if they would have tried.

[amdg]

Logistically, it would be pretty hard to take over Australia by armed incursion. The countryside is (and was) armed and self-sufficient. The major cities are too far apart for co-ordinated supression by an invading force. It would be an interesting "red dawn/mad max" type scenario.

Perhaps if you attacked on Sunday morning.

[Takechanpoo]

In reality Empire Japan had NO intention to invade Aussieland, unfortunately.
But whitism Aussie dudes unilaterally started a war with Japan by jumping to a conclusion or wrong guess of the delusion that "Uncivilized protruding-toothed pee-colored fucking Japs come to invade our land and rape our wives and daughters!!!!".
And present time Aussie dudes are groundlessly thinking that they were victims in previous war history with Japan, without knowing why.

[Charles]

Aussie's might have had something to say about that if they would have tried.

Probably "We surrender."

[quote="amdg"]Logistically, it would be pretty hard to take over Australia by armed incursion. The countryside is (and was) armed and self-sufficient. The major cities are too far apart for co-ordinated supression by an invading force. It would be an interesting "red dawn/mad max" type scenario.

Perhaps if you attacked on Sunday morning. ]
It is much simpler than that.

During WWII, the ozzie army had a vainglorious history of defending their ports and supply lines, to insure the troops have an undisrupted supply of beer. It would be simpler to disrupt the supply at the source. A small invasion force could garrison the beer production facilities, which are all in the few ozzie metropolitan areas. Even the remote, desolate parts of the country (i.e. 99.9% of the island) would fall under control once the beer was exhausted.

[Behan]

A small invasion force could garrison the beer production facilities, which are all in the few ozzie metropolitan areas. Even the remote, desolate parts of the country (i.e. 99.9% of the island) would fall under control once the beer was exhausted.

Nah, they would just liberate sake bottles from the invaders.

[Greji]

[quote="amdg"]
Perhaps if you attacked on Sunday morning. ]

Or Saturday night when everyone's at the pub?

[Iraira]

I always thought New Year's Day would be a good day to invade someplace. But it's gotta be around 5am, as any earlier and people will get po'ed that you are ruining their celebrating. Any later and you risk running into a bunch of grouches with bad hangovers.

[Yokohammer]

Apparently ex-general Tamogami is unrepentant:

"Sacked Air Self-Defense Force chief Gen. Toshio Tamogami defended his nationalist essay Monday, claiming his justification of the war Japan waged in the last century was intended to instill the country and its people with a sense of confidence."

Un-f*cking-believable.

The rest here: http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20081104a1.html

[Adhesive]

Logistically, it would be pretty hard to take over Australia by armed incursion. The countryside is (and was) armed and self-sufficient. The major cities are too far apart for co-ordinated supression by an invading force. It would be an interesting "red dawn/mad max" type scenario.

Now that would be a movie worth watching.

[Greji]

In reality Empire Japan had NO intention to invade Aussieland, unfortunately.

Re-check your history Take. The transports bearing the supplies and troops were intercepted on their way to Port Moresby and sunk, which was one of the major reasons that the final invasion was cancelled. Port Moresby was to be the jump off point for Operation "FS" as a major strategic plan to isolate Australia from the US as a viable base of operations. The Imperial Army favored invasion and occupation, but the Navy was against occupation as they felt it would be too logistically difficult. At any rate, this went by the way side with the setbacks resulting from the Coral Sea and the loss of the transport ships and troops.

Midway was forthcoming and that changed the whole ball game. But, yes Take, there was a plan to attack Aussieville.

[Mulboyne]

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Here he is (no subtitles):

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