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Postby Greji » Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:01 pm

Iraira wrote:That sucks...you're in the neighborhood and you don't even stop by...
actually that explain the strange sounds I heard coming from thr 5th floor. It kinda sounded like, "I don't know why the it says in the Poulan 360 owner's manual to only insert the blade end into the rectum while the blade is rotating at over 200 rpm or it might get suck, after all that mochi my bowels are so impacted, I'm thinking of going the C4 route to unplug them again."


Have you considered the basic Rotor Rooter?
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Postby Iraira » Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:05 pm

Greji wrote:Have you considered the basic Rotor Rooter?
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you mean one of those snake things? Lost two of them last time. I think that CERN thingie did create a black hole, although this one also expels noxious...

man, Uncle Gregory would be so proud that we've taken his thread to the gutter in less than a day.
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Postby Greji » Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:29 pm

Iraira wrote:you mean one of those snake things? Lost two of them last time. I think that CERN thingie did create a black hole, although this one also expels noxious...

man, Uncle Gregory would be so proud that we've taken his thread to the gutter in less than a day.

I know Greg and I don't think he really gives a shit if we do....
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Postby prolly » Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:28 am

james wrote:suggest you read a little more. as kj has adeptly surmised it in his post in this thread, the notion that foreign nationals here should never be viewed (and therefore treated) as more than guests is wholly anachronistic.



I did read it and while I am empathetic with those who are mislabeled due to the bad behavior of their fellow outsiders, I think they're missing the bigger picture and that largely the Japanese are entitled to their pov, despite it being inconvenient to (the collective) you. Probably not the best example, ust looking at this board as a cross section you can see how Japan is viewed largely the same way the Spaniards saw South America in the 16th century: it's a play land for plundering, raping and exploiting (I'm exaggerating of course to make a point) and vacationers, both long term and short term seem to continue to see it that way.

The other end seems to be economic: The higher up you go in the rent/money chain, the less "perceived racism" you encounter] got to experience the REAL Japan," ie. they expected every door to be immediately open to them, nobody to say No to them for any reason, and basically for the entire country to be exactly as they imagined it and woe unto the Japanese if it doesn't. Then of course it "Baaaawwwwww," time.

I'm fully aware I sound like a douchebag; whatever. I'm trying not to, but just being a devil's advocate based on my own experiences. Most foreign travelers from China and the Western world embarrass me with their behavior and sense of entitlement. Yes there is racism in Japan; no the Japanese are not perfect nor do they exemplify the best in everything, but come on already.
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Postby prolly » Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:38 am

double post, sorry
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Postby wuchan » Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:45 am

prolly wrote:double post, sorry

bought a farm, the guy was soo happy that I planned to keep it a farm. Everyone around here is so friendly compared to those cunts back in tokyo, sorry to destroy your theory but the farmers are far less discriminatory than the city dwellers.
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Postby Iraira » Sun Jan 18, 2009 1:04 am

Prolly, I can dig your rap, and I feel the cringe of the boorish tourist or "this is how I do it back home, so fuck 'em if they can't deal with it" gaijin, but it's the little things that accumulate, such as seeing signs at a real estate agency, "Freeter, fuzoku, mizushoubai, or gaijin OK"....that's a little disconcerting.
Imagine a sign outside junior high schools in the US (for example), "Even though you are Japanese, and therefore prone to enjo kosai, please feel free to enter."

I haven't had many problems that were caused by my being a paleface, perhaps because I am so friggin' charming, or my hashi skills are up to J-standards, and I've heard shit was much worse during the bubble (came here in '99, and there were no parades/protests marking my arrival).

I've never tried to fit in, just tried not to piss off those whom I need to tolerate my presence, although I do love talking to my gf about how difficult it is to saw through a human spinal column while on the train in the morning. Only once did a salariman offer us advice on a better cutting technique. He is a bud, now. It's Saturday night, I'm stuffed full of gyoza, burping garlic, and just sprayed half a bottle of Kabi Killer in the kitchen sink. Something was stinkin' (besides me) when I got home.

And just to add, the times that I've been in the hardcore inaka (where Katakana is not used), I've found the peeps there much nicer and ready to start up a conversation than even the most parasitic of Eigo bandits in Tokyo.
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Postby Behan » Sun Jan 18, 2009 1:59 am

Gilligan wrote:But the logic is no different than the logic used by Uncle Gregory to defend his position.


But I am not advocating not renting apartments to J people.
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Postby Yokohammer » Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:50 am

wuchan wrote:bought a farm, the guy was soo happy that I planned to keep it a farm. Everyone around here is so friendly compared to those cunts back in tokyo, sorry to destroy your theory but the farmers are far less discriminatory than the city dwellers.


So true! My experience as well.

"Country people" have soul. City people generally don't give a fuck about anything but themselves (there are exceptions, of course).

In fact the wife and I are currently planning to move up to a rural area in Miyagi where she has relatives, partly for that very reason. The cost of living is one factor, but the quality of life, humanity included, is another big one.

As far as I am concerned the "Real Japan" still lives in the country. The big cities are rapidly going down the tubes.
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Postby kusai Jijii » Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:51 am

prolly wrote: I'm trying not to, but just being a devil's advocate based on my own experiences.


Prolly, of course you are entitled to your POV. And I would agree with you that SOME gaijin have the 'fuck you' attitude (as, if I may add, do MANY J-tourists/working holiday makers abroad). I'm interested to know what experience you base your views on.
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Postby Kunugiyama » Sun Jan 18, 2009 2:09 pm

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Postby kusai Jijii » Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:28 pm

Kunugiyama wrote:But I think most people go to Japan to try and live a real life there.


Say off the drugs bro. You're tripin' beyond belief!
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Postby Greji » Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:41 pm

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Postby wuchan » Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:01 am

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Postby prolly » Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:40 am

i'm going to try a different approach. i should have just gone this way first,but oh well.

as a property owner here in nyc (4 apartos in a 5 room building in west harlem),i would much rather rent to another american rather than a foreign national, whether they speak english or not, whether they seem honest or not, etc. this doesn't mean i would choose the worst american (ie hippie) over the best foreigner - i just want to get the extreme example out of the way - but overall if you're american i will give you more.
the reason is simple: flight risk. if an american damages something and/or just checks out without paying up, this is something i have a reasonable knowledge of being able to deal with; they're most likely still in the country and can be tracked down, etc. but once a foreigner gets on that plane and heads home, i got nothing, aside from a deposit. there's nothing to anchor foreigners to stick around and be held accountable; good jobs, american lovers, etc. those all can go away so nothing short of an american spouse is considered permanent enough. of course no doubt some nice, responsible europeans have been locked out of renting from me, but they usually just rent from someone else instead of complaining i'm racist.

of course the point is moot since i use a rental agency to let.
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Postby wuchan » Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:44 am

prolly wrote:
as a property owner here in nyc (4 apartos in a 5 room building in west harlem),i would much rather rent to another american rather than a foreign national

Well, there is your problem. If you bought prop in soho you could charge enough money to not worry.

P.S. the next place to buy up is flushings.
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:30 am

Prolly,

If someone has a state issued ID and a social security number and doesn't happen to mention nationality, how do you tell whether or not he or she is foreign?
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Postby wuchan » Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:37 am

Samurai_Jerk wrote:Prolly,

If someone has a state issued ID and a social security number and doesn't happne to mention nationality, how do you tell whether or not he or she is foreign?

wow. good point.
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Postby Kunugiyama » Mon Jan 19, 2009 2:43 am

Kusai Jijii, shit your good, I was fucked up when I wrote that, but do you really want to discourage people from posting when fucked up?

I don't really give a fuck why most FG's come to Japan, but I still think like in America a lot of people come with
knowledge of/interest in the history and culture, a lot of people don't, and some have way too much interest in all things "Japanese", but
instead of me trying to figure out why people go to Japan, I'll ask why would someone leave their own country for an extended period of time
when they could be furthering their career or education while taking advantage of easy women that are there?
what I mean is why wouldn't people stay in their own country, where they could be furthering their career or education while taking advantage of the sluts there?
Whether they are coming just to take advantage of
Japan's sluts or to really try and explore Japanese culture, whether they want to maybe live there or not,
I don't know if it really matters, but I agree that the temporaryness
of so many people does effect those that think about staying.

Wu-chan no obviously not long, but if you really think Japanese society can't change, I guess we'll just have to
sit back and wait.

Prolly-seriously? People from other countries have no anchor in America as a general statement? Marriage? Job? X number of years learning
our culture? Not to mention the possibility of not being able to return to their own.
And in America sensless destruction and straight screwing people is considered pretty ok compared to some other countries standards.
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Postby prolly » Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:27 am

wuchan wrote:Well, there is your problem. If you bought prop in soho you could charge enough money to not worry.

P.S. the next place to buy up is flushings.



this is exactly what i was trying to point out in a previous post where i used a bad example about a japanese farmer renting out his attic.
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Postby prolly » Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:32 am

Samurai_Jerk wrote:Prolly,

If someone has a state issued ID and a social security number and doesn't happen to mention nationality, how do you tell whether or not he or she is foreign?


i smile and ask them where they're from. what's so hard about that?

but also:
the rental agency finds out while doing their credit and background (criminal) checks. potential renters pay for this service ($25) if they want to fill out an application to rent. this only when it's not me who shows them and they want it (i'm out of town a lot, etc.)

just to be clear, i haven't NOT rented to a foreigner just because they are, but my previous preferences and reasons (ie. flight risk, etc.) hold true.
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Postby Greji » Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:29 am

prolly wrote:i smile and ask them where they're from. what's so hard about that?

but also:
the rental agency finds out while doing their credit and background (criminal) checks. potential renters pay for this service ($25) if they want to fill out an application to rent. this only when it's not me who shows them and they want it (i'm out of town a lot, etc.)

just to be clear, i haven't NOT rented to a foreigner just because they are, but my previous preferences and reasons (ie. flight risk, etc.) hold true.


As a slum-lord in Japan, I have had to put everything in the contract. No rent in two months, you're history. One month notification by either party allows for termination, inspection before vacating, etc. Amazingly, it works well. Obviously, there have been non-rent payers, but with the right explanation, more time is allowed; however, having that in the agreement allows for immediately removal of dead beats and otherwise non-paying players. Never had a FG apply. They would be welcome to a contract, if they weren't of the savory character of say, Bird, or GJ....

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Postby Catoneinutica » Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:42 pm

Dr. Crack probably looks at scenes like this, in which the cringing Londonistan Keystones can be seen running away from the usual Islamic Rage Boyz, and thinks, am I right or what?!

[YT]http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=8iQyXXsBBQ0&eurl=http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=230[/YT]

But it seems that most of the bearded cousin-marry-ers in the demo are native Brits.

Just as these pasty-lookin' fellas in Calgary are native canucks. Sieg heil, eh!

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Postby Gilligan » Mon Jan 19, 2009 2:19 pm

prolly wrote:as a property owner here in nyc (4 apartos in a 5 room building in west harlem),i would much rather rent to another american rather than a foreign national, whether they speak english or not, whether they seem honest or not, etc. this doesn't mean i would choose the worst american (ie hippie) over the best foreigner - i just want to get the extreme example out of the way - but overall if you're american i will give you more.


What I want to know is, how are you posting on FG if you live in the 1960s?
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Postby hundefar » Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:06 am

Debito tries some character assasination by way of an old article from Australia magazine.
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Postby Greji » Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:48 am

hundefar wrote:Debito tries some character assasination by way of an old article from Australia magazine.


Gregory and Debito have been at each other for sometime. Debito is quite sensitive about his Otaru onsen case victory and Greg always says it ain't shit, which likewise makes Debito so cheerful!

They'll undoubtably never get it sorted out, regardless of the topic.
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Postby Greji » Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:07 pm

kusai Jijii wrote:Fuck me... :rolleyes:


This is no time for romance KJ, we're talking some heavy issues here
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Postby hundefar » Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:13 pm

Greji wrote:Gregory and Debito have been at each other for sometime. Debito is quite sensitive about his Otaru onsen case victory and Greg always says it ain't shit, which likewise makes Debito so cheerful!

They'll undoubtably never get it sorted out, regardless of the topic.
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Still fun to watch, in a car accident kind of way.
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