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Postby Mulboyne » Mon Feb 23, 2009 2:55 am

[floatr]Image[/floatr]Brisbane Times: Missing Australian man feared dead in Japanese ski resort
SCOTT McKAY was due to fly home from a Japan ski holiday yesterday, but instead local police believe he might be dead after leaving a bar and disappearing three nights ago. Mr McKay, an IT consultant from Brisbane, was in the northern ski town of Niseko when he disappeared after drinking at a local bar, Wild Bill's, on Thursday night. After several hours' drinking with two friends, he decided at about 1.30am to walk back alone to the accommodation the three shared. It was a 10-minute walk, local police say. His two friends left Wild Bill's about 15 minutes later but when they arrived at their pension there was no sign of Mr McKay and his belongings were untouched. He has not been seen since, despite two days of searching by emergency services and dozens of volunteers. One of his friends who had been at the bar with him, Ben Johnstone, posted a message on a Japanese snow website asking for help. "Our mate has gone missing," Mr Johnstone wrote. In a later post he wrote: "He had been drinking fairly heavily. But he is generally a very responsible drunk. He was in a good head space and could walk fine." It was not snowing heavily the night he disappeared, but Niseko locals said there had been heavy falls in the past two nights and there are fears he may have fallen or lost his way and has since been covered by snow.
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Postby kurohinge1 » Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:24 am

Mulboyne wrote:
. . . Missing Australian man feared dead in Japanese ski resort . . .


While I'd love to hear that he hooked up with some 'snow bunnies' for a few days and just forgot to tell his mates, I think the reality is all too obvious. They may not find him until it thaws, poor soul. He's not the first (like this Oxford student in a French resort in late 2007) and he won't be the last. :rolleyes:

So, you can add drinking (and getting home) in harsh environments to the list of "sports" that should never be done alone, mentioned in this thread: "Japanese Snowboarder Missing In Whistler"

What a waste. :(
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Postby TennoChinko » Mon Feb 23, 2009 12:02 pm

Because most of us drink alcohol and are rather attached to it, it's both sad and interesting how often the role of alcohol is at first acknowledged but then heavily discounted as a key factor.
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Postby Greji » Mon Feb 23, 2009 12:47 pm

TennoChinko wrote:Because most of us drink alcohol and are rather attached to it, it's both sad and interesting how often the role of alcohol is at first acknowledged but then heavily discounted as a key factor.


After Nakagawa, anything around alcohol is going to have that in the first or second line:p

Also, whadda ya mean "most of us" are rather attached to alcohol? I'm not attached to it. Addicted? Yes, but definitely not attached.....
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Postby TennoChinko » Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:17 am

Greji wrote:After Nakagawa, anything around alcohol is going to have that in the first or second line:p

Also, whadda ya mean "most of us" are rather attached to alcohol? I'm not attached to it. Addicted? Yes, but definitely not attached.....
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However it's interesting to note the difference in how most Japanese still perceive alcoholic behavior as simply a failure to exercise one's willpower sufficiently. Back home, there is at least a significant majority who now understand that for alcoholics, the issue is that with booze, they have no control.
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Postby Mulboyne » Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:26 am

Cruel irony: missing skier developed snow GPS
A Brisbane man missing at a snow town in Japan helped develop a satellite tracking device for skiers which could have led searchers straight to him. Former colleagues say it is unlikely Scott McKay was wearing one of the Flaik transmitters, which use GPS technology that allows ski instructors to monitor up to 45,000 skiers in real time...Mr McKay, 27, was the one-time vice president of Snow Sports Interactive, the Queensland company which developed the Flaik device. The IT specialist also helped to road-test it at ski resorts overseas. The GPS tags are not available in Japan and it is unlikely he had been wearing one at the time, his former boss told brisbanetimes.com.au yesterday...more...
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Postby Takechanpoo » Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:01 pm

If assuming this Aussie guy looked down on Japanese and pretended arrogantly in night J-town, I never try sympathizing with him.
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Postby Greji » Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:18 pm

Takechanpoo wrote:If assuming this Aussie guy looked down on Japanese and pretended arrogantly in night J-town, I never try sympathizing with him.
Sorry.


I somehow felt you wouldn't.
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Postby Doctor Stop » Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:22 pm

It's possible he could have been hit by an unlicenced shuttle bus.
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Postby Buraku » Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:55 am

Takechanpoo wrote:If assuming this Aussie guy looked down on Japanese and pretended arrogantly in night J-town, I never try sympathizing with him.
Sorry.



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Postby kurohinge1 » Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:27 pm

[SIZE="3"]How did Scott disappear so quickly?[/SIZE]


While it would be disappointing if this was just a stunt to promote the GPS tracking device, that would still be a better alternative than the likely outcome. And this comment makes it sound all too common:

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. . . [the Niseko-Hirafu safety liaison officer said:] "We've had a couple of cases of people turning up in the snow near bars, but we usually find them very quickly". . .


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Postby GomiGirl » Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:17 pm

This is so very sad and could have some implications for the industry. While it is most likely that he has had an accident, it is not out of the realm of possibilites that he has met foul play. ( I loved typing that.) That would be a huge scandal for Niseko as it is known as a safe place for families to come on holidays.
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Postby Mulboyne » Sun Mar 01, 2009 3:05 pm

Australian: Japanese authorities call off search for missing Brisbane man Scott McKay
JAPANESE authorities have called off the search for an Australian who disappeared from a ski resort eight days ago. Brisbane man Scott McKay, 27, was last seen leaving a resort bar in the small village of Niseko, on Japan's northern island of Hokkaido, on February 20. Australia's Sapporo consulate says the search has been suspended and Mr McKay's family has returned to Australia. "The consulate has confirmed with local authorities they have scaled down the search,'' a Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade spokeswoman said. "The physical search has been suspended, however investigations regarding the Australian are still being followed, including all leads.''

It is understood Mr McKay walked back alone towards his accommodation from Wild Bill's bar in Niseko in the early hours of Friday, February 20. His two mates left the bar about 15 minutes later, but when they arrived at the accommodation he was not there. Heavy snow, below zero temperatures and gale-force winds initially hampered the search for the IT business owner. Mr McKay is the founder of Brisbane-based Wolfbyte which, coincidently, is developing a GPS system for people lost in blizzards.
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Postby amdg » Sun Mar 01, 2009 3:56 pm

Mr McKay is the founder of Brisbane-based Wolfbyte which, coincidently, is developing a GPS system for people lost in blizzards.


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Postby Greji » Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:08 am

Mulboyne wrote:Kyodo via Japan Today: Body believed to be missing Australian man found in Hokkaido river


Saw that this morning. He was apparently found just beyond where he was lodging. The Sydney Morning Herald has this on it......

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Postby Mulboyne » Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:47 am

Brisbane Times: Ski town vows better safety for tourists
Locals in the Japanese ski town of Niseko have vowed to prevent a repeat of the February disappearance of Brisbane skier Scott McKay, which may have ended on Wednesday with the discovery of a man's body. Eight weeks after the 27-year-old IT entrepreneur vanished without a trace on a short walk back to his lodge, local authorities and long-time residents are considering an education campaign and posting minders on the doors of local venues in time for next ski season to prevent a similar tragedy. Mr McKay was last seen leaving Niseko's Wild Bill's bar about 1.30am on February 20 and had been walking the short distance back to his hotel when he vanished without a trace. Joggers found the body of a man, believed to be Mr McKay, about 5.45pm on Wednesday, lying face-down in a creek.

Chris Lund, the managing editor of local magazine Powderlife, which broke news of the body's discovery yesterday, said there had been many close calls before Mr McKay's disappearance and following it. "This has been happening for years, ever since the Australians started to come here en mass," Mr Lund told the Brisbane Times. "In the last five to 10 years, we've had people pass out overnight, but they've always been found in time. "But now that this has happened, I think there will be more of an education campaign." Mr Lund said his magazine would be working with local authorities and bar owners to put up awareness posters around the ski town warning of the dangers of wandering off in the snow. "We'll be talking to pub owners about putting someone on the doors, watching out for those coming out and making sure people don't go off alone."

Although Mr McKay was an experienced skier and seasoned snow traveller, most of the near-misses reported in Niseko involved novices and first-time visitors. "The problem is Australians. They don't understand how cold it is and think they can get back back to their accommodation without a jumper. "You never read anything about how dangerous it can get. It's negative five to negative 10 (degrees Celsius) here at night, getting up to negative 15 on top of the mountain. "Maybe its time to finally put people on the door of the bar." The measures are expected to be put in place next ski season.
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Postby Number11 » Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:52 pm

How about not getting so shit-faced drunk in the first place?
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Fri Apr 17, 2009 4:17 pm

Number11 wrote:How about not getting so shit-faced drunk in the first place?


What, you don't think putting chuui signs on the doors of bars will stop Australians from getting absolutely shit faced and trying to wander back to their lodges in the cold without proper gear? I wonder how often, if ever, this kind of thing happens with the locals. I've heard death from exposure is a pretty common way for men to die during winter in all those former Soviet republics. I guess a snow bank looks like a good place to sleep after a liter or two of vodka.

Anyway, not that I'm complaining, but if I look at things objectively, I think one of the problems in Japan is that they don't seem to have the concpet of cutting someone off when they've had enough.
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Postby Number11 » Fri Apr 17, 2009 6:45 pm

I agree. The signs would be about as effective as putting up a sign to keep the karasu away from the garbage. Late twenties to early thirties is a dangerous age for men. They think they know it all and are invincible.
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Postby Greji » Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:36 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:Anyway, not that I'm complaining, but if I look at things objectively, I think one of the problems in Japan is that they don't seem to have the concpet of cutting someone off when they've had enough.


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Postby Doctor Stop » Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:17 am

"The problem is Australians. They don't understand how cold it is and think they can get back back to their accommodation without a jumper."
That sure sounds like something Charles would say, minus the jumper bit.
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