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Labor lamentations prompt fatal action

Postby 2triky » Fri May 15, 2009 1:40 pm

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More young Japanese commit suicide amid job fears
Thu May 14, 2009

TOKYO (Reuters) - Economic woes triggered a rise in suicides among young Japanese last year, with the number of people in their 30s taking their own lives hitting a record high, a police report said on Thursday.

The overall number of suicides fell by 2.6 percent to 32,249, the 11th year in a row the figure has remained above 30,000, according to the National Police Agency.

Those in their 50s were most likely to become victims -- making up almost 20 percent of the total.

But suicides among people in their 30s have been on the rise since 1991. One expert blames Japanese industry's increasing reliance on casual labor.

"The reason many men in their 50s commit suicide is to leave insurance money for their families," Chuo University professor Masahiro Yamada told the Mainichi newspaper. "But those in their 30s have difficulty seeing any prospects for the future. The lay-offs of casual workers are a symbol of this."

Hundreds of thousands of casual workers have been made redundant over the past half year, as Japan's export-dependent economy staggered amid the global slowdown.

The police report showed 4,850 people aged between 30-39 took their own lives in 2008, up 1.7 percent on 2007 and about double the 1991 figure, the report showed.

Japan has one of the highest suicide rates in the developed world, at 24 for every 100,000 people. By comparison the rate in the United States stands at 11.1.

Although depression was the most common cause, there were sharp rises in the number of people in the 30-39 age group thought to have committed suicide because they had failed to find a job, were unemployed, or were having difficulty making a living, the Mainichi said, citing the police.

Suicides by people in their teens and 20s are also on the rise, the police said. More than half those who died were unemployed and another 28 percent were casual workers.
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Postby ghostunit » Fri May 15, 2009 2:53 pm

well, ain't this what you get when you build a society in which work = life
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Fri May 15, 2009 5:14 pm

Does casual worker mean temp?
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Postby sublight » Fri May 15, 2009 8:20 pm

Temps or part-timers.
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Postby waruta » Sat May 16, 2009 1:49 am

Haken? Seems nowadays a lot of haken shyain are the first to be laid off. When will the industry learn that they need to take care of both their "life-workers" and the "temps"?
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Postby prolly » Sat May 16, 2009 2:06 am

one questions on these suicides is are these people ethnic japanese or japan citizens of pan-asian origin. what i'm trying to get at here is, for example, would a chinese person who's lived in japan all his life be just as likely to commit jisatsu as the standard japanese person? and would it be reported as such or would the news break it down into categorizations, etc?
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Postby 2triky » Sat May 16, 2009 2:12 am

prolly wrote:one questions on these suicides is are these people ethnic japanese or japan citizens of pan-asian origin. what i'm trying to get at here is, for example, would a chinese person who's lived in japan all his life be just as likely to commit jisatsu as the standard japanese person? and would it be reported as such or would the news break it down into categorizations, etc?


Is it as common for people in Japan who are of mixed heritage to contemplate and commit suicide?
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Postby prolly » Sat May 16, 2009 2:42 am

2triky wrote:Is it as common for people in Japan who are of mixed heritage to contemplate and commit suicide?


it's a little more than that, i was just clumsy in my asking. what i guess i'm asking is if asian immigrants in japan (naturalized or by birth, etc.) tend to also commit suicide at the degree "japanese" japanese people do, for the same reasons. while they may have had a different upbringing, the financial and occupational stress of working/living in japan remains the same for everybody.
that sort of thing.
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Postby 2triky » Sat May 16, 2009 2:59 am

prolly wrote:it's a little more than that, i was just clumsy in my asking. what i guess i'm asking is if asian immigrants in japan (naturalized or by birth, etc.) tend to also commit suicide at the degree "japanese" japanese people do, for the same reasons. while they may have had a different upbringing, the financial and occupational stress of working/living in japan remains the same for everybody.
that sort of thing.


Right on. I gathered the gist of your question...I was merely asking a question rather than being critical of your question. Sorry for any confusion. It seems in essence we have the same interrogatory re: the subject.
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Postby Saru Paradise » Sat May 16, 2009 1:40 pm

You would have to also look at insurance coverage, potential payout benefits from their employers, family situation, etc. If you can find a suicide database, you could run a linear regression and see if nationality is statistically significant.
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Sat May 16, 2009 6:18 pm

sublight wrote:Temps or part-timers.


Is that British English or something? I've never heard that term before.
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Postby Dragonette » Sun May 17, 2009 2:20 am

Samurai_Jerk wrote:Is that British English or something? I've never heard that term before.

Here in NY, a temp is a temporary worker (could be in any job or profession), needed for a special project or the busy season. Many of them actually work for temp agencies, and flit from place to place as needed.

Part timers (20-30 hours a week) are at a disadvantage because they're not eligible for medical benefits or paid vacations, but can be listed on a spouse's medical insurance

And in graphics, film, writing at least, freelancing (is that what freeter means?) seem as a big step UP from a staff job.

Although the very rich sometimes off themselves over losing face/fortune, doing it over losing a crappy job is just about unheard of here. If my guy had that bent, he would have done it at 26, or 35, or 41, etc. etc.

I guess that fortunately he's not quite as Japanese as he thinks he is. :banana:
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Sun May 17, 2009 5:41 am

Dragonette wrote:Here in NY, a temp is a temporary worker


Sorry, I meant casual worker. I've never heard that term used before.
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Postby Greji » Sun May 17, 2009 11:54 am

Samurai_Jerk wrote:Sorry, I meant casual worker. I've never heard that term used before.


It's was used frequently in Japan for temp hires, but with the advent of the hakken temp system, it is used less frequently. Casual employees received some benefits and occasionally even bonuses, which are all but eliminated with the use of the Hakken system.
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Sun May 17, 2009 2:00 pm

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Postby sublight » Sun May 17, 2009 9:53 pm

Back when I was working in college in the US, jobs (and the workers that did them) were either casual or full-time. Casual meant it didn't require any special training, certification, or degrees, and the people who did them (usually students) had no contract or benefits, usually much lower pay, and were limited in the number of hours they could work. The library cataloguer's job that required an MLS went to a full-timer, while the job putting books back on the shelves was casual and went to a student.
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