Wow...

[Peeper]

Gaisaradatsuraku!
Sekiwake


If you want to take a picture like a normal fucking human being that is one thing but sneaking up with a pinhole camera in your fucking shoe is over the top.

What' over the top you self righteous professed ASSHOLE! I am just glad to be your bad guy here for idiots like you to take a poke at. In relation of where a camera is placed is none of your business either you religious
fanatic. Rob made a point about people like you that figure the world should be a certain way or no world will exist at all.

People with your views screw up the world PERIOD!

But you don't get it. Maybe 6 months in the gulag will help you understand because YOUR ass is hanging out more all over the place than you think.

You better hope you do not end up in the same cell with me, because that bible will not be enough to defend yourself with.

What is even more bizarre is your analogy to schoolgirl prostitution. Earth to Peeper, Earth to Peeper, come in Peeper. Schoolgirl prostitutes are, in case you didn't know, children who are not capable of understanding the future damage that they are exposing themselves by vaunting off to a love hotel with a sick Peeper client with 30,000yen burning a hole in his pocket rivaled only by that open herpes wound.

See this is the problem for idiots like you always tend to find excuses for what YOU feel is right. Prostitution is prostitution and it takes two sides to settle that 30,000 yen debt. It's consensual right???

And stop using excuses that these girls are children, yet small fraction are too young to understand, but the majority knows this is wrong. Japanese society needs to address that, by punishing them too.

Earth to Gaisaradatsuraku fanatic, Earth to Gaisaradatsuraku fanatic, use your common sense dick brain and stop making excuses for teenage girls who know right from wrong prostituting their bodies for handbags, clothes, and whatever else money can buy. Then they turn into adults and continue to commit the same treacherous acts, but that's fine with you.

The lawmakers and authorities think like you, eat like you, sleep like you, promote hypocrisy like you, so you should become a politician, run for office just like those self righteous idiots did. Then you can draft laws that you and your hypocrisy could remain immune to, but punish people YOU do not feel is right.

And you know what? They always get caught commiting heinous/indecent acts that they championed against.

These people and especially YOU are soooooooo HYPOCRITICAL.

You just keep toting that bible and eventually you will change the world because you will be living in it by yourself.

Again, I am glad to be here as a person you can point the finger at, because that gives you that sense of a savior to all mankind. If society needs to help anyone it's YOU.

By the way Rob, The People vs. Larry Flynt was a very good movie.
He took on the establishment and won.

And you are correct with your analogy of how western cultures views on sex.


Peeper

[/b]

[Peeper]

Gaisaradatsuraku!

Chill out man! You just took this forum to its
lowest level!

I agree with Shibuya Me, quit being a fake prophet and go get a date and stop asking for dates on this board. Seems to me you cannot get one either way.

If you don't enjoy being with women, that's okay.
Just go find a good man to tend to your needs

Take this advice from Shibuya Me preacher, because it seems to me that you are hard up for a ??man.

You sad soul

Peeper

[GomiGirl]

If somebody lets you take their upskirt photo or uses a toilet where you have told them you have a hidden camera then that is their choice then fine - knock yourself out. It is a pretty pathethic loser-like fetish but then whatever floats your boat.

I am all for freedom of expression.. however I want to add that as a skirt wearing female, if I ever catch some idiot with a small camera pointed up my skirt without my permission, then I will slap him and his tiny phallus into next week.

[GuyJean]

The People vs. Larry Flynt was a very good movie.
He took on the establishment and won.

Actually, I haven't seen the movie yet. I heard it was great.. But wasn't Larry Flynt paying the girls to model for him? And weren't they fully knowledgeable of what they were doing, and of legal age? From my understanding of laws in Japan, what you're doing is illegal...

Personally, I don't really get off on up-skirt shots, but I know a lot of people do. Why is that? Could it be that it's considered taboo to look up some unsuspecting, underage girl's skirt? Or that it's illegal?

On another personal note, if I caught anyone taking pictures up one of my sister's skirts, then publishing them on the Internet, I'd either 1) call the authorities and have him arrested, or 2) arrange something to mysteriously happen to him..

To each their own... But there ARE limits. Especially when you're including other people in your pursuit of 'different strokes'.

My two yen.

GJ

[Peeper]

GomiGirl wrote:

[b]If somebody lets you take their upskirt photo or uses a toilet where you have told them you have a hidden camera then that is their choice then fine - knock yourself out. It is a pretty pathethic loser-like fetish but then whatever floats your boat.

I am all for freedom of expression.. however I want to add that as a skirt wearing female, if I ever catch some idiot with a small camera pointed up my skirt without my permission, then I will slap him and his tiny phallus into next week.[b]

Hi GomiGirl,:-)

I respect your opinion, because YES freedom of expression is a good thing. Whenever, I visit Japan again, I will ask for your permission for an upskirt, because I'm sure you look very nice. Just kidding!


You have my word not to point a cam up your skirt without asking first:-)


Kind Regards,

Peeper

[Gaisaradatsuraku!]

GomiGirl wrote:

[b]If somebody lets you take their upskirt photo or uses a toilet where you have told them you have a hidden camera then that is their choice then fine - knock yourself out. It is a pretty pathethic loser-like fetish but then whatever floats your boat.

I am all for freedom of expression.. however I want to add that as a skirt wearing female, if I ever catch some idiot with a small camera pointed up my skirt without my permission, then I will slap him and his tiny phallus into next week.[b]

Hi GomiGirl,:-)

I respect your opinion, because YES freedom of expression is a good thing. Whenever, I visit Japan again, I will ask for your permission for an upskirt, because I'm sure you look very nice. Just kidding!


You have my word not to point a cam up your skirt without asking first:-)


Kind Regards,

Peeper

Dude, I am not religious. I barely go to church once a year. In spite of that I know basic rights from wrongs and you are a pervert. This has nothing to do with religion. You are a pederast and need to get a life. What kind of sick bastard takes pictures of unsuspecting women to sell on the internet. The kind of sick bastard who will have my foot up his ass if I ever find him.

And, dude, you rip off most of the pictures on your site.

[Naniwan Kid]

What makes all of you think the girls
don't like all the attention of getting
their pictures taken in all of their
expensive Cecil McBeal Mini Skirts?

I know of a few girls who LOVE to
be looked at, photographed, and
chased by as many guys as possible.

It really gets them off as well as me..
I mean those kinky men!

Just to be fair, should THEY BE ASKED FIRST?

Sometimes I think some guys get so into fetish pornography that they actually lose grasp on reality.

A few truisms.

Women do NOT like to be photographed without their knowledge.

Women do NOT like to have picture taken up their skirts.

Women do NOT like to be photographed while why urinate or defacate.

Women do NOT like to be raped.

In fact, all of these statements are TRUE FOR ME TOO.

PEEPER, if the shoe was on the other foot (or the camera on the other shoe) would you like to see pictures of YOUR underwear on some website without your knowledge? If yes why not post them?[/quote]

[Peeper]

GuyJean
Upskirt Fellini

No prob, and I hear what you are saying bro, for you are honest and I respect that. Yes, upskirting is considered illegal in Japan, just as anything else out of the ordinary.

If the Japanese authorities want these type of activities stopped, then they need to start with their own electronics giants such as Sony by regulating the use of small pinhole sized cameras.

Check Akiharbara city and you can find hundreds if not thousands of dimed sized cameras. The Koban uses them along with the news companies and I could go on and on bro.

They need to ask themselves, why sell this type of component to the public. Let's get to the root causes of any kind of anti-social activity.

I'll give you an example GJ about illegal drugs such as cocaine etc.
Say a country like the United States's war on drugs, is out to clean up
our communities. The US concentrate more time incarcerating local and street level dealers, the war is a joke, because the very officials who are overseeing this so called war are the ones lining their fat pockets from drug proceeds.

The prisons are overcrowded with tons of small time dealers and the people who are bringing the poison into the US are running free to do more damage to our already fragile system.

The same comparison applies to tiny hidden cameras and spy equipment.
The use of this type of hardware is to spy on other people whether positive or negative and these large companies are profiting from people spying on each other.

In other words bro, cut off the head of the beast instead of the toenail. Regulate these items and you will experience less incidences. Stop selling tiny spy equipment to the general public and the perverts will have less things to hide behind. That will help the problem, yet not solve it totally.

By the way,what's with the name upskirt fellini???:-)

Just curious!

Peeper

[GuyJean]

If the Japanese authorities want these type of activities stopped, then they need to start with their own electronics giants such as Sony by regulating the use of small pinhole sized cameras.

I believe there are legal uses for pinhole cameras]They need to ask themselves, why sell this type of component to the public. Let's get to the root causes of any kind of anti-social activity.[/quote]So, I take it you're not responsible for the anti-social activities you, yourself commit? But Sony is because they sell cameras small enough to fit in a shoe?

By the way,what's with the name upskirt fellini???:-)

That was given to me by Ultra Gaijin. Along with those damn PISS JARS!" I have no idea why... I'm more of a down-shirt, cleavage guy..

GJ

[cstaylor]

Those two punishments are related... that's what you get for trying to game the system, Mr. 10 bottles of beer.

[mercutio]

Dude, I am not religious. I barely go to church once a year. In spite of that I know basic rights from wrongs and you are a pervert. This has nothing to do with religion. You are a pederast and need to get a life. What kind of sick bastard takes pictures of unsuspecting women to sell on the internet. The kind of sick bastard who will have my foot up his ass if I ever find him.

And, dude, you rip off most of the pictures on your site.

Its a rare occasion but I totally agree with Gai on this one... any sick bastard who takes pictures of unsuspecting women to sell on the internet deserves a foot in the ass. And this bullshit about the women "asking for it" because they wear short skirts?!?!? gah!! sounds like the old NAMBLA psychobable to me.

[Naniwan Kid]

Pee wrote:

They need to ask themselves, why sell this type of component to the public. Let's get to the root causes of any kind of anti-social activity.

How can you use the equipment for illegal activities and then blame the government? That is a cop-out. Are you ADDICTED to taking these pictures? Do you need psychological help? I doubt it. I think you can stop at any time, but it is easier to blame someone else for your weakness then deal with it like an adult.

That is like saying "How can they sell cars when 10's of Thousands are killed every year by careless drivers?"

That isn't logic.

[Gaisaradatsuraku!]

Dude, I am not religious. I barely go to church once a year. In spite of that I know basic rights from wrongs and you are a pervert. This has nothing to do with religion. You are a pederast and need to get a life. What kind of sick bastard takes pictures of unsuspecting women to sell on the internet. The kind of sick bastard who will have my foot up his ass if I ever find him.

And, dude, you rip off most of the pictures on your site.

Its a rare occasion but I totally agree with Gai on this one... any sick bastard who takes pictures of unsuspecting women to sell on the internet deserves a foot in the ass. And this bullshit about the women "asking for it" because they wear short skirts?!?!? gah!! sounds like the old NAMBLA psychobable to me.

Actually, we probably agree on a lot of things.

[American Oyaji]

I don't agree with porn. I think it's wrong.

But in that case, the women have decided to participate in the industry.




But hidden camera's are for those without the balls to LEGALLY get a woman naked and shag her brains out. And to let her shag YOUR brains out. (That was for GG )

Those with normal libidos do not get into this. Yeah, they are interesting to look at every now and then because everyone has a little bit of the voyeur in them, but for it to be a major freaking pasttime is SICK. Yes Sick.

Some may call me a prude, or overly moralistic. I dont care. Just dont call me late for dinner. But mr Peeper, you need to get straightened out.

I'd rather view a live naked women lying on my bed (or have myself in a live womans bed and I'm naked.[for GG as well] ) than to look at women who are nothing more than electronic paintings on a phosphor screen who I can't touch. It's actually quite dumb. Build up an erection to do what.....spuge on yourself?????? Pathetic. Get a life ya dumb Arkie (to quote Gai).

[Naniwan Kid]

I have noticed Mr. Peepers has gotten oddly quiet all of a sudden. I hope he has the balls to face the accusations sent his way.

[Peeper]

Naniwan Kid
American Oyaji
Ozeki
mercutio


I have noticed Mr. Peepers has gotten oddly quiet all of a sudden. I hope he has the balls to face the accusations sent his way.

Not at all I must say, yet the level of reasoning and understanding on this board does not constitute me going any further regarding this subject.

Again, I am pleased to give everyone's moral comfort level a boost here.
I noticed everyone on this board covering this subject, created a bond to voice their displeasure with this fetish. Whether or not you agree with this is one thing, yet I know that it makes most people feel more confidence within themselves to accuse and point fingers the other way.

That keeps the pressure and burden off of your own personal inadequacies.


Gaisaradatsuraku wrote:
Dude, I am not religious. I barely go to church once a year. In spite of that I know basic rights from wrongs and you are a pervert. This has nothing to do with religion. You are a pederast and need to get a life. What kind of sick bastard takes pictures of unsuspecting women to sell on the internet. The kind of sick bastard who will have my foot up his ass if I ever find him.

And, dude, you rip off most of the pictures on your site.

This kind of response only reinforces that this idiot is a pervert himself, because how could he determine whether the pics on the site was stolen?

By making that snide comment you gave yourself away ASSHOLE!

Obviously, you have surfed fetish sites before and copied and pasted content for yourself, yet you are too stupid to understand the basic quality of web pics, because I have never stole an image in my life.

And as far as the threat you made earlier about the foot up my ass, I will not draw into that, because people like you who hide behind a handle on the internet talk crap all day long you sorry chicken shit loner. You are the kind that will run to the police and snitch before you confront.

Yet, I will keep a sharp eye out definitely the next time I visit Japan whether or not you are there, since you made that threat and be on full alert, because I take any kind of personal threat very serious, and the word to you, is if you confront, you will really be confronted with BIG challenge.

As for the others here, I honestly respect everyone's take on this, and I saw some points in GuyJean the Upskirt Fellini's post and GJ, I really dig the name.


Peeper

[GomiGirl]

Peeper.. you didn't comment on my posts -

What considerations do you give to the women and girls who you photograph or just view from your vantage point at the base of an escalator?

What about the privacy of a locked toilet stall?

What about the right of privacy altogether?

[Naniwan Kid]

Peeper-

I have read your reaction, but not your defense.

You seem like an intelligent individual, so I am curious on an intellectual level how you defend your activitiy of illegally photographing women in compromising positions and posting them publically. I do not know if you make money off your site, but if you do don't you think your subjects deserve a cut of your profits.

You didn't answer my other question asking how would YOU feel if you ran across a compromising picture of yourself on the internet.

I'll expand it to ask, wht if you ran across a toilet shot of your sister?

How about a panty shot of your mother?

How about a pussy shot of your sister?

Nothing I will say will likely change your ways, but I would appreciate answers to these questions.

[mercutio]

mercutio

And as far as the threat you made earlier about the foot up my ass, I will not draw into that, because people like you who hide behind a handle on the internet talk crap all day long you sorry chicken shit loner. You are the kind that will run to the police and snitch before you confront.

Hey peeper...

I made no threat. I simply said any sick bastard who takes pictures of unsuspecting women to sell on the internet deserves a foot in the ass.... but as Gai will attest in his own colorful way... I certainly dont hide behind an internet handle and you can see exactly who I am. So as they say "dont come talking that trash or we'll pull your card" I can walk down to Shibuya anytime you'd like and discuss this "foot in the ass" thing with you in person...

[jingai]

You go Mercutio, ex-Okazaki represent!

[Peeper]

GomiGirl,


Peeper.. you didn't comment on my posts -

What considerations do you give to the women and girls who you photograph or just view from your vantage point at the base of an escalator?

What about the privacy of a locked toilet stall?

What about the right of privacy altogether?

Sorry, about the delay in answering your inquiry:-)

To answer your question about the considerations the paradise contemplates while moving about is usually given to ultra trendy fashion risk takers, such as the recently demised trend Ganguro Girl fashion. This type of chancy attire not only attracts the paradise, but serves as a magnet for any curiosity seeker.

I am certainly not instigating or trying to dictate what a person wears as attire, but heavy consideration is given to this type of attention getter. Just to refresh your awareness, I do not believe, advocate, or promote, underage and kiddie porn. Also, I do not advocate, condone or suggest anyone else doing this activity.

Young Japanese school kids or any underage young person is given no consideration at all, and if I ever see anyone else upskirting or any other type of deviant activity to a child, I will take serious action and issue with that individual. There are rules to be followed and I hold steadfast to that.

As far as the escalator vantage point, I do not hang around escalators for any extended amount of time chancing an upskirt. Too dangerous and risky, plus it looks too obvious. The 109 building in Shibuya has tons of escalator opportunities, for the ride up the escalator offers more dividends. Yet, there's limits to that too.

By the way, upon future business travel to Japan, The Shibuya ward especially 109 is off limits to me permanently. Why?? I'm sure anyone here can answer that for me.

What about the privacy of a locked toilet stall?

In regards to your toilet question, I have to honestly say that anyone and everyone should have full privacy inside a bathroom, bathhouse, or any other reasonable expectation area of privacy such as homes. I myself do not believe, advocate, or condone, peeping into windows on private property, or scaling apartment walls just to look or tape into a window.

GomiGirl, I agree that toilet activity is very touchy, especially in private domains. On the other hand, I have a different view in a public domain, in relation to upskirts, but the laws in Japan and America differs in the interpretation of public places.

For example, in Japan the participation of exploration with lowering a video camera or even a mirror under a garment will land you a public nuisance charge. Is this charge serious?? To an extent, yet it's more of a mere inconvenience and serious embarrassment for a Japanese suspect.

What about the right of privacy altogether?

Making or formulating no excuses GomiGirl, my opinion of privacy rests solely on a public domains(places).

Upskirts

I hope this gives you a more indepth understanding.

Have a great Day!

Peeper

[Peeper]

Hey peeper...

I made no threat. I simply said any sick bastard who takes pictures of unsuspecting women to sell on the internet deserves a foot in the ass.... but as Gai will attest in his own colorful way... I certainly dont hide behind an internet handle and you can see exactly who I am. So as they say "dont come talking that trash or we'll pull your card" I can walk down to Shibuya anytime you'd like and discuss this "foot in the ass" thing with you in person...

_________________

mercutio

The above post was not channelled towards you:-). No disrespect to you.
And to answer your question about meeting you in Shibuya, I do not think that is necessary unless on a positive note, such as a friendly chat:-)

Take Care and have a great Day!

Peeper

[Peeper]

b]Naniwan Kid
Maegashira[/b]
Peeper-

I have read your reaction, but not your defense.

You seem like an intelligent individual, so I am curious on an intellectual level how you defend your activitiy of illegally photographing women in compromising positions and posting them publically. I do not know if you make money off your site, but if you do don't you think your subjects deserve a cut of your profits.

You didn't answer my other question asking how would YOU feel if you ran across a compromising picture of yourself on the internet.

I'll expand it to ask, wht if you ran across a toilet shot of your sister?

How about a panty shot of your mother?

How about a pussy shot of your sister?

Nothing I will say will likely change your ways, but I would appreciate answers to these questions.

Thanks for the query, and I will be glad to answer your questions as honestly as I possibly can.

First, I would like to say that the paradise really does not believe in posting peoples faces on the net, yet on few rare occasions it has happened.

Second, the paradise serves as a central publishing site which means we take contributions from other voyeurs from as far away as China. One of the responsibilties of the submitting or providing the pictures is to blur faces.

If the pics are deemed irresponsible or risky, the paradise alters the pics by blurring the face or not posting at all. I do not think that anyone has asked whether there have been releases authorizing a person to be featured on the site. Well, there has and several of the posts have been signed and released for publishing to the net.

In regards to your question about earning residual profit from this, the paradise can attest that everything you will see in the upcoming members area will be released for publishing to the paradise. In essence, the models will be compensated for posed and flashing type material, and rest assure the models will be hot. The paradise, just finished a model shoot of an elegant and beautiful Japanese subject from Hokkaido.

To be frank, I have not made any money from this site, yet thousands of these type of fetish sites do. A close ally of the paradise is the voyeurweb, a site of voyeurism from hidden cam to actual professional models.

http://www.voyeurweb.com

You didn't answer my other question asking how would YOU feel if you ran across a compromising picture of yourself on the internet.

How would I feel if I saw a compromising picture of myself on the internet?????? To be perfectly honest with you I would not pay any attention to it because, as far as I know I could be on the web now and not know it.

We do not by any means live in a private world anymore, since technology has taken a huge precedence over all other sacred things.
Your picture is taken in places from street cams, traffic light cams, etc.
Video and surveillance is just a part of life.

We all run the risks of being subjected to this type of activity. Do you attend a gym or dance school in your area??? Well, with the amount of gay fetish sites out now, you may be subjected to having your picture taken unknowingly while you are in the men's locker room.

With the amount of phone cameras especially in Japan, you would never know your pics were taken, because a guy was just arrested the other day in an East coast fitness club using his phone camera to take compromising pictures of men changing and showering.

Also, since the hardware is so small and easy to hide a person can set their gym bag next to you and be filming without you having any clue.
And believe me it happens more than you think ESPECIALLY in Japan.

Reference: Mainichi News Pinholes Plague the Populace in Tokyo

http://www12.mainichi.co.jp/news/mdn/search-news/883086/pinhole20plague20the20populace-0-1.html

My question is what is the chances of anyone ending up on a sexual content fetish site and finding out about it??

Technically, an image(s) can be taken in Tokyo, then forwarded and used by a webmaster in London or Paris.

Probably a million to one chance, because most of the time the pics end up behind firewalled site members areas. It's like winning the lottery.

As far as the paradise goes, about sixty to seventy percent of free gallery content is body parts, meaning viewing layered garments. The people who view this fetish prefer the actual layer for whatever reason.


I'll expand it to ask, wht if you ran across a toilet shot of your sister?

How about a panty shot of your mother?

How about a pussy shot of your sister?

Again, the toilet materiel is a little extreme as stated in reply to GomiGirl's post, but there will be little lost of sleep if it did happen.

Also, to elaborate on the upskirt aspect, will be to say that if a family member exposes part of their genitals with a short and risky skirt, then they will be making themselves fair game to some chikan/pervert.

I hope this answers your inquiry since you have approached this subject in an honest and honorable way. Thanks for viewing this objectively, because I can see that you are very intelligent and educated gentleman.

I can truly say that you do stand for what is right:-). Also, people do change their lives sometimes:-) Let's just keep the fingers crossed.

Have a great day! I will go back to the voyeurweb at: http://www.voyeurweb.com, bulletin boards, but I learned from a different perspective here.

Kind Regards,

Peeper

[Naniwan Kid]

First, I would like to say that the paradise really does not believe in posting peoples faces on the net, yet on few rare occasions it has happened.

This is the first of a series of this young woman's panties:



There are 2 pretty clear pics of this girl's face. Here is one.



This also begins aseries of this woman's panties:



This was after about 3 minutes of looking on your site I found the faces of 3 women.

If the pics are deemed irresponsible or risky, the paradise alters the pics by blurring the face or not posting at all.

Really? That doesn't seem to ring true in my short investigation.

In essence, the models will be compensated for posed and flashing type material, and rest assure the models will be hot. The paradise, just finished a model shoot of an elegant and beautiful Japanese subject from Hokkaido.

I am very confused. These are all paid models? Then why NOT show all their faces. If they are paid models who know what is going on I have no problem with what is going on here. I don't think this is true, though.

We do not by any means live in a private world anymore, since technology has taken a huge precedence over all other sacred things.

And who tends to be on the cutting edge of technology? Pornographers. YOU have contributed to this problem. Do not pretend to be simply riding the wave. It is not the cameras that have invaded our privacy, it is the pornographers.

We all run the risks of being subjected to this type of activity. Do you attend a gym or dance school in your area??? Well, with the amount of gay fetish sites out now, you may be subjected to having your picture taken unknowingly while you are in the men's locker room

No shit. It's partially because of people like you that I DON'T go to public pools or the gym. I don't want my wife or child to, either. It is becasue of people like you! Don't you understand? How can you talk about it in the third person when you are the main contributer to the problem?

Also, since the hardware is so small and easy to hide a person can set their gym bag next to you and be filming without you having any clue.

Again, it isn't the HARDWARE'S fault. It is the mind of a pornographer that creates the negative change in society.

Again, the toilet materiel is a little extreme as stated in reply to GomiGirl's post, but there will be little lost of sleep if it did happen.

Also, to elaborate on the upskirt aspect, will be to say that if a family member exposes part of their genitals with a short and risky skirt, then they will be making themselves fair game to some chikan/pervert.

I am glad to here you would lose to sleep if you saw your sister in one of these shots on the internet. Remember, every woman whose pictures you take is someone's daughter, someone's wife, someone's mother, someone's girlfriend. You may have caused a few sleepless nights yourself, Peeper.

I hope this answers your inquiry since you have approached this subject in an honest and honorable way.

I appreciate the compliment, and your forward nature in answering my questions. They haven't been completely answered to my satisfaction, but better than I expected, so I can't complain.

[GomiGirl]

Making or formulating no excuses GomiGirl, my opinion of privacy rests solely on a public domains(places).

Upskirts

I hope this gives you a more indepth understanding.

Actually, your reply, albeit very polite, really does not give me more understanding - you really skirt (sorry for the pun) the issues. Your definition of what is the public and private domain is very different to my definitions.

You have also not commented on what consideration you give to the people whose privacy you are invading.. reading between the lines, you seem to say that if they are wearing a skirt in public then they are just asking for somebody to look up it? I disagree.

My definition of invasion of the private domain is when somebody has to make an extraordinary effort to see beneath clothes eg standing under an escalator looking up, using a mirror, using a hidden camera. This is invasion and deep down you know this but you are trying to justify your fetish to people who do not share it.

If somebody wanted you to see their underwear then they wouldn't bother wearing outer garments. A short skirt is to show off the wearer's legs - it is not an invitation to try to see more than you have been invited to see.

So we are never going to agree on this subject. But as long as you recognise and admit that what you are doing is wrong then I would have more respect for you than trying to place the blame elsewhere.

Being filmed by traffic cams or security cams is not an extraordinary effort to see what has been covered up with clothes. Just mentioning this is an attempt to deflect the attention away from the fact that you are invading others privacy. You know this.

Setting up a hidden cam in a toilet is simply wrong - not touchy or edgey - wrong. This is really an invasion of privacy.

[kamome]

Why the hell are people even talking to this fuckwit? It just gives his shitty website free publicity, and he's loving every minute of it.

[Naniwan Kid]

I agree with both Kamome and Gomigirl.......but i appreciate his attention to our questions. I don't think he is looking for free publicity here.

Din't get me wrong

What Mr. Peepers does is wrong. It is against the law for a reason. BECAUSE IT IS EXPLOITATIVE OF INNOCENT PEOPLE.

I don't think Mr. Peepers gets that.

yet

I hope he will, but don't blame me for engaging in conversation with him, as disgusting as it may seem.