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McTojo wrote:He became violent on the plane, he gets restrained and then has a heart attack and dies, why apologize? What's there to investigate?
McTojo wrote:He became violent on the plane, he gets restrained and then has a heart attack and dies, why apologize? What's there to investigate? I get jealous when I see Nigierians married to Japanese women, especially if they're beautiful. I guess maybe next time she'll marry a Japanese.
McTojo wrote:He became violent on the plane, he gets restrained and then has a heart attack and dies, why apologize? What's there to investigate? I get jealous when I see Nigierians married to Japanese women, especially if they're beautiful. I guess maybe next time she'll marry a Japanese.
"It is a sorry thing that we have done."
eddie wrote:i might get violent were i to be taken away from my wife and child.
particularly if i felt i had been treated unfairly.
now, i'm not saying that anything unfair happened, but i'm prepared to listen to this story unfold...
regardless, the ending is saddening.
McTojo wrote:What's legal recourse of action is accorded to a criminal who gets violent with the authorities?
Mulboyne wrote:I think you mean "What legal course of action can the authorities take against a criminal responding violently?"
I'm reasonably sure it doesn't include killing him and it seems like the investigators might agree.
McTojo wrote:So what's your point Eddie? That black A$$ was in the country illegally. He gets violent and the "J" police respond with violence. What's legal recourse of action is accorded to a criminal who gets violent with the authorities?
Mulboyne wrote:I think you mean "What legal course of action can the authorities take against a criminal responding violently?"
I'm reasonably sure it doesn't include killing him and it seems like the investigators might agree.
McTojo wrote:[SIZE="4"]I don't wan't his Black A$$ here![/SIZE] And that goes for his W$ore wife,too. Is she crazy? The authorities did me a favor! One less on of them and we all can have a marry christmas!
Chiba police have sent their reports to prosecutors on 10 immigration control officers at Narita airport, suspecting them of assaulting a Ghanaian man as he was being deported in March, resulting in his death, investigative sources said Tuesday.
Although they have not been placed under arrest, the officers are accused of involvement in the death of Abubakar Awudu Suraj, 45, who died after several of the officers sought to restrain him as he resisted being put aboard a flight from Narita to Cairo on March 22 for staying in Japan illegally, according to the sources.
Chiba police said earlier that an autopsy found no external wounds, broken bones, disease or other potential causes of death.
But in June, Suraj's 49-year-old Japanese widow filed a complaint with prosecutors against the immigration officers, alleging they injured him and caused him to die during the deportation process.
An official at the Tokyo Regional Immigration Bureau, to which the officers belong, on Tuesday expressed willingness to cooperate with the probe, saying, "We will continue to cooperate with the investigations and would like to deal with sincerity with people involved in the case, such as the bereaved family, based on the results of the investigations."
Mulboyne wrote: It seems highly likely to me that no-one involved could tell the difference between a captive offering resistance and one fighting to stay alive.
Death in custody is always shocking, and rightly so. The death of Jimmy Mubenga on Tuesday, as he begged for help from fellow passengers on flight BA77, should sound alarm bells throughout the Home Office. A postmortem has so far failed to confirm the cause of death. But eyewitnesses report that the 46-year-old Angolan citizen was being forcibly restrained as the plane prepared to depart for Luanda. Deportations are an unavoidable aspect of any immigration policy. But they must be carried out by guards who are properly trained to minimise both the stress and the distress. It is about patience, compassion and calm, not the pre-emptive use of overwhelming force.
It would be wrong to prejudge the current police inquiry. But the prisons ombudsman – who has been asked by the Home Office to report on Mr Mubenga's death – has investigated nine deaths in immigration removal centres since 2004 and, although no deportee has died since 1993, when Joy Gardner was suffocated after being gagged with 13ft of sticky tape, two years ago concerned organisations compiled a dossier of nearly 300 separate claims of abuse by failed asylum seekers. An inquiry commissioned by the Home Office that reported earlier this year could investigate only a small fraction of the allegations, and found no systemic abuse. But it was strongly critical of the lack of proper process, which meant that more than half the allegations examined had simply been ignored by the Border Agency. Meanwhile, the year before, the prisons inspector had also reported that there were too few effective safeguards, wide variations in standards, and worrying gaps and weaknesses in complaints and monitoring.
Against this backdrop, the Home Office's initial response that Mr Mubenga had "died after being taken unwell" is at the very least inadequate. If eyewitness accounts given to the Guardian are correct – and they corroborate one another – it is inaccurate too. Occasionally, it is necessary to uphold the law by force. The accompanying safeguard has to be that any death while in the care of the state is swiftly followed by an adequate and transparent investigation. A report from the prisons ombudsman is not enough.
In the past 20 years, understanding of the dangers of restraint has greatly improved, but there is no system to ensure that every organisation empowered to use force in the name of the state applies the lessons of earlier tragedies. There is too much evidence that some private security firms do not properly understand the risks of restraint techniques. More fundamentally, it also seems there is neither the oversight nor the accountability that are the preconditions of the safe and proper exercise of state power.
Ganma wrote:[SIZE="3"]Family sues gov't over death of Ghanaian man during deportation[/SIZE]
McTojo wrote:I want to respond in a sensible way, but I just want to shoot from the cuff and skip the niceties. First off, this could've happened to anyone of African extraction. I say African, because had the detainee been any other nationality, he or she would've been accorded the full rights and protection under the law.
The fact that he was African and on Japanese soil illegally, and that he had resisted arrest, forced the authorities to respond to a situation that they clearly weren't prepared for, thus the breakdown in procedural protocol. This could've happened in any country - far worse outcome I believe.
I don't believe immigration should be liable for damages, but a thorough review on the handling of detainees, and some reprimands would be in order. I personally don't like this couple. The fact that this issues has gained so much press is agitating! Africans just want to ruin the country and the women and ruin the racial harmony with their BS. I don't abhor the African, though. Just not his a$$ in Japan.
McTojo wrote:I don't wan't his Black A$$ here! And that goes for his W$ore wife,too. Is she crazy? The authorities did me a favor! One less on of them and we all can have a marry christmas!
McTojo wrote:I want to respond in a sensible way, but I just want to shoot from the cuff and skip the niceties. First off, this could've happened to anyone of African extraction. I say African, because had the detainee been any other nationality, he or she would've been accorded the full rights and protection under the law.
IparryU wrote:Seeing how much hate you have for Africans... i take it that the gay that was fucking you in the ass left you for a real brotha that was younger and tighter than you...
you gots some issues man...
chokonen888 wrote:OK McTojo, imagine that the dead guy was Japanese. Sounds like, at the very least, the cops incompetence in handling the situation lead to his death. I have no problem with cops getting shots in on a someone that gets violent with them....but it doesn't matter if the guy was black, purple, or Japanese, if the J-cops can't retrain someone without killing him, that's a pretty serious problem.
McTojo wrote:Incompetence you say? i say lack of training since incidences like this don't happen everyday. When is the last time a J-Cop had to force someone onto a plane who had a latent heart condition...? I think the officers handing the situation followed procedures according to how they were trained. The authorities did not kill the man. There was no intent to kill. The man simply died resisting arrest bought on by his own defiance. The judge will see this point and through the case out.
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