We Almost Got The Samurai Party

[Mulboyne]

The new party formed by LDP defectors selected "Tachiagare Nippon" ("Stand Up Japan") as its name after some lengthy brainstorming. The Asahi confirms that the final choice was suggested by Tokyo Governor Shintaro Ishihara but reports that former Transport Minister Takao Fujii lobbied hard to include the word "Samurai" in the party name. Others were in favour of the idea but they also wanted to include the "Nippon" in the party name and "Samurai Nippon" was rejected because it's the name of a popular song by Ren Tokuyama:

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"Samurai Nippon" was also the title of a 1984 single by Johnny's Jimusho boy band, Shibugakitai. I can't find that on You Tube so you'll have to put up with this version of one of their hits, which was called "Oh Sushi!" in English.

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"Arigato Nippon" and "Ganbare Nippon" were apparently also in the running until Ishihara's flash of inspiration won the day.

[dimwit]

Given that they are all about 70, I would suggest Electile Dysfunction would be apt.

[Ganma]

What a bunch of retards. I'm packing my bags for sure if this party wins an election. With old Blinky on board they must be the far right. Will fascism never die in this country???

[Kanchou]

Not unless you kill it.

(with a flamethrower)

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

Given that they are all about 70, I would suggest Electile Dysfunction would be apt.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Whatever it is about spreading more reputation around before I can give it to dimwit again.

That was one of the funniest posts I have ever read. A classic!

Considering the near-fascist fogeys who've joined and their romanticizing over a fabricated past, they should have gone for something like "Dai Nippon Teikoku Banzai."

[Catoneinutica]

Given that they are all about 70, I would suggest Electile Dysfunction would be apt.

Very, very nice - right down to the first "l" in "Electile." I was going to do a Japanese tourism poster saying "Japan: Erectile Dysfunction," but you not only preempted me, you one-upped me, dammit.

-catone
-Japan: We've Fallen and We Can't Get Up
-as someone noted somewhere else, the party name is similar to "Deutschland erwache," a Nazi song. A pretty tone-deaf choice, but TIJ.

[Kanchou]

Is it just me or does the use of the term NIPPON not have some nationalistic right-wing connotations to it? It's sort of like the difference between using this:



or this:



I mean, sure they're both the hinomaru...but the context is totally different.

[Catoneinutica]

"Stand Up Japan"

"We're stupid - we don't don't deny it! We're fuckin' morons. One of our members is such a pinhead he once said, about twenty years ago, 'In the future, Japan will be the world's business headquarters, America will be its playground, and Europe will be its boutique.' Can you fuckin' believe it? So anyway, I've got my tongue up this chick's ass..."

[Yokohammer]

Is it just me or does the use of the term NIPPON not have some nationalistic right-wing connotations to it?

I believe that "Nippon" is the official pronunciation, not "Nihon."
Sure sounds funny in some contexts, though.

[Yokohammer]

"Stand Up Japan"

"We're stupid - we don't don't deny it! We're fuckin' morons. One of our members is such a pinhead he once said, about twenty years ago, 'In the future, Japan will be the world's business headquarters, America will be its playground, and Europe will be its boutique.' Can you fuckin' believe it? So anyway, I've got my tongue up this chick's ass..."

I remember that. At least everything except the bit about where his tongue is/was.
There was also something about Australia being Japan's grain silo and coal cellar too.
There was a distinct odor of aspirations to world domination about it ... an arrogant fucking attitude that probably hasn't changed much.

[Kanchou]

I believe that "Nippon" is the official pronunciation, not "Nihon."
Sure sounds funny in some contexts, though.

I have yet to have a Japanese person admit that there is a difference between NIPPON and NIHON... I think Nihon is correct 95% of the time, at least in a sense of what the Japanese would say.

Unless they all say DAINIPPONTEIKOKU when all the dirty gaijin are out of the room, while secretly planning the next attack on SHINWAKOU...

[Yokohammer]

I have yet to have a Japanese person admit that there is a difference between NIPPON and NIHON... I think Nihon is correct 95% of the time, at least in a sense of what the Japanese would say.

Unless they all say DAINIPPONTEIKOKU when all the dirty gaijin are out of the room, while secretly planning the next attack on SHINWAKOU...

Really, it's "Nippon Ginko" and "Nippon Hoso", and as uncomfortable as it sounds, it's actually supposed to be "Nippon-jin" and "Nippon-go."

Thank god most people don't talk like that, otherwise we'd be wiping spit off our faces all the time.

[Kanchou]

On the other hand, it's Nihon Daigaku...

[Catoneinutica]

I remember that. At least everything except the bit about where his tongue is/was.
There was also something about Australia being Japan's grain silo and coal cellar too.
There was a distinct odor of aspirations to world domination about it ... an arrogant fucking attitude that probably hasn't changed much.

Good memory! Yeah, they were really full of themselves back in the day, abetted by Western buffoons like Ezra Vogel. Now they're utterly and thoroughly ma-ke'd (hence the party name), but they think it's because Nippon was stabbed in the back.

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

Is it just me or does the use of the term NIPPON not have some nationalistic right-wing connotations to it?

Not really. Nippon was used more in the past because the country was officially Dai Nippon Teikoku (Japanese Empire) and almost always referred to as such. Postwar, Japan became Nihonkoku (lit. the country of Japan).
Lots of polite middle-aged to older women will always use Nippon, and though it's the preferred choice of nationalists, it doesn't necessarily carry nationalistic overtones if used in normal conversation.

I mean, sure they're both the hinomaru...but the context is totally different.

No, they're not both the hinomaru. The hinomaru, the one that looks like the used menstrual pad, is the national flag. The one that looks like the octopus tentacles is called the nisshoki (lit. Rising Sun flag) and is/was the country's naval ensign. It is still used as such by the Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force. The reason it's so strongly associated with the war is because the Navy was the dominant fighting force in the Pacific War and it was the squids who did most of the fighting against the U.S. and its allies, and that's why I guess the soundtruck kooks like it so much.
Despite not having a Navy (that is only actually the second largest Navy in the world), open displays of support for the sea-based force aren't as PC nowadays in Japan as they were back in the day when they were lopping off kichiku beiei heads with their samurai swords.

[Behan]

The reason it's so strongly associated with the war is because the Navy was the dominant fighting force in the Pacific War and it was the squids who did most of the fighting against the U.S. and its allies...

I remember reading that in history books, too. A lot of the land forces on places like Guadalcanal were really navy soldiers and not Army soldiers. I think the Army was in control in China and the Navy did a lot, but not all, of the on-land fighting in the Pacific. The two forces were really big rivals.

[Mulboyne]

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"It's easy to make fun of old geezers," says Ishihara.

[rooboy]

Much as I'm grateful to what it's given me - work/money, cheap alcohol, chicks etc, I think this topic shows just how fucked the politicians are in Japan. 'Stand up' for or to what? Nobody is fucking responsible for the problems here except for the Japanese themselves.

Actually that also inclydes the public because they have the same wanky idea that in order to 'preserve Japan's uniqueness' they screw up their demographics in service of this, watch while their schools empty because the kids aint being born and they won't tolerate even a careful migration program, watch while shops all over the country are shuttered and the population gets more silver and puts more fucking pressure on the medical system etc etc.

It's also the Japanese way to have more than a decade of stagnation because of the politicians and business liking their fucking monopolies. And because they got the Japanese people for years to put thir yen into PO accounts paying bugger all interest and used all that cheap money to fund their keiritsu. who are the zaibatsu from before and around WW2 - just different in name.

There was no fucking real market for real investors. The 'japan way' was great while the world was buying their shit but when there's a slump in sales watch how the economy is stagnating even more. So who the fuck is to blame? What the fuck are this new party standing for? These are the same arseholes who drove the J economy into this hole.

American greed wall st style fucked up the US and is helping fuck the world economy. But greedy Japanese monopolists with all their cronyism and lining elite families' pockets while t hey get their drones to sit in the office from morning til night playing computer games after 5 to look like they're doing work have nothing to offer anybody especially their own countrymen.

[Doctor Stop]

The new party formed by LDP defectors selected "Tachiagare Nippon" ("Stand Up Japan") as its name after some lengthy brainstorming.

Because the LDP's fallen and it can't get up.

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(They can't get it up either, but that's a whole other party.)

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So much for standing up....

[Kanchou]

They look like the three stooges.

(sannin no baka?)

[Yokohammer]

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