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Swedish Court of Appeal Upholds Manga Translator's Child Porn Conviction

Postby Mulboyne » Sat Jan 29, 2011 7:51 pm

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The Local: Translator loses cartoon child porn appeal
A Swedish appeals court imposed a fine of 5,600 kronor on translator of Japanese manga on Friday because drawings stocked on his hard drives were considered child pornography. The Svea court of appeal said 39 drawings stocked on Simon Lundström's computer violated Swedish child pornography laws. The material was not made public, but the 27-year-old top manga expert's sentencing by a lower court in June had raised the question whether it could be considered child pornography. Lundström said the drawings, seized during a police search at his home, circulated freely in Japan and did not, unlike pornography, portray real children. Friday's court of appeal ruling reduced the fine of 25,000 kronor handed down by the district court in June...more...
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Postby hundefar » Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:17 pm

Here in Denmark the left wing parties + one far right party are trying to get the same legislation passed. There is election this year and there is a possibility that the left wing coalition will win, and then we will probably see stuff like this in Denmark too. Oh yeah, they are also planning to outlaw prostitution. Good grief.
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Postby AssKissinger » Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:37 pm

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Thank God there are people out there willing to fight for the pencils. They're defenseless and they need our voice!
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:51 pm

AssKissinger wrote:Thank God there are people out there willing to fight for the pencils. They're defenseless and they need our voice!


I've never been a slippery slope argument guy but it seems like the West is happily sledding down one.
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Postby AssKissinger » Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:55 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:I've never been a slippery slope argument guy but it seems like the West is happily sledding down one.


I got a slippery pole they can slide down on.
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Postby Coligny » Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:29 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:I've never been a slippery slope argument guy but it seems like the West is happily sledding down one.


Will sumbody think of them childruns !!!!!??111eleventyone!!!!!

Nobody expected the swedish inquisistion....

First they come for the cartoon pornography... next it will be the furries...

Maybe the ghey will escape the oven this time... but with the current support for the catholic church(*)... it might not last...

(*) lest sum up, the pope is a former nazi, 90% of the staff seems to be made out of pedophile and they encourage propagation of aids and other sekshual disease in the name of some book of dubious origins... Those guys make scientologists look like girl scouts...
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Postby plaid_knight » Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:10 pm

Nice to see people getting punished for Thoughtcrime. Those people sitting at home and wanking to comics are the greatest threat to civilization as we know it.
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Postby Coligny » Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:32 am

plaid_knight wrote:Nice to see people getting punished for Thoughtcrime. Those people sitting at home and wanking to comics are the greatest threat to civilization as we know it.


Funny... because it is a threat to civilisation... not to individuals... Luckily civilisashiuns are not people and therefore have no legal rights... But with the dystopian slope we're riding... it's a matter of time before some lawmaker decide we're not fucked enough as it is...
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Postby hu5h » Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:03 am

Coligny wrote:Maybe the ghey will escape the oven this time... but with the current support for the catholic church(*)... it might not last...

did i read this right? are you saying that sweden is catholic?

sry to disappoint. we are just 'normally' dumb as fuck.
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Postby IparryU » Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:54 pm

AssKissinger wrote:
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Thank God there are people out there willing to fight for the pencils. They're defenseless and they need our voice!

drawings or real photos... kiddy porn is kiddy porn. i hope that fucker gets time served, no need to be nice just cuase it was made with a fuckin pencil.

really silly that shit like this has to be addressed... translating kiddy porn comic books... wow

so i wonder when japland will give up on the pedos and actually try to stop it rather than produce it...
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:51 pm

IparryU wrote:drawings or real photos... kiddy porn is kiddy porn. i hope that fucker gets time served, no need to be nice just cuase it was made with a fuckin pencil.

really silly that shit like this has to be addressed... translating kiddy porn comic books... wow

so i wonder when japland will give up on the pedos and actually try to stop it rather than produce it...


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Postby Coligny » Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:21 pm

hu5h wrote:did i read this right?


Actually no... but whatever...

Sidenote, PlaidKnight, there is no Vladimir Illitch Lenin, Its' Vladimir Illitch Oulianov or Lenin...

As usual for nickname I think you can go with Vladimir Illitch "Lenin" Oulianov

But in your case it sound like George Dubya....
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Postby IparryU » Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:33 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:People like you really fucking scare me. Should the makers of movies like American Pie be jalied for having people in their 20s play teens in sexual situations?

valid point. but if you are saying that it should be ok to produce kiddy porn cause of movies like american pie... you scare me more than i scare you.

also note that teens fuck about and most people can accept the humor as it is the norm. knock a couple years off a teen and they are kids... that wouldn't fly in a movie like that and it sure as hell aint the norm.
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:47 pm

IparryU wrote:valid point. but if you are saying that it should be ok to produce kiddy porn cause of movies like american pie... you scare me more than i scare you.

also note that teens fuck about and most people can accept the humor as it is the norm. knock a couple years off a teen and they are kids... that wouldn't fly in a movie like that and it sure as hell aint the norm.


I'm not saying it's OK or normal. I'm saying it doesn't matter because it wasn't kiddie porn. It was drawings.

Remember this case: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7770781.stm? Do you think that was a good verdict?
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Postby IparryU » Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:58 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:I'm not saying it's OK or normal. I'm saying it doesn't matter because it wasn't kiddie porn. It was drawings.

Remember this case: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7770781.stm? Do you think that was a good verdict?

a bit vauge on the cartoon character bit. if it was baby toons (young bugs bunny and gang) i would laugh it off... but for drawings of human children, that is what i am trying to point out.

another example is the US military personnel that collected manga of all types including the loli crap. his belongins were searched and the authorities found all the dirty crap and jailed him. something crazy like 15 years for all of it...

i see your point, but kiddy porn is just something i dontt like to have going around
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:13 pm

IparryU wrote:a bit vauge on the cartoon character bit. if it was baby toons (young bugs bunny and gang) i would laugh it off... but for drawings of human children, that is what i am trying to point out.

another example is the US military personnel that collected manga of all types including the loli crap. his belongins were searched and the authorities found all the dirty crap and jailed him. something crazy like 15 years for all of it...

i see your point, but kiddy porn is just something i dontt like to have going around


What's vague about it? It was the kids from The Simpsons fucking and it was drawn as a joke. A judge decided it was child porn.

Laws in the US are particularly crazy. If you fuck a kid and it's your one and only offence you'll probably get less time in jail than a guy who gets convicted of having 50 images on his hard drive.

I don't like movies like Saw that are essentially torture porn and as far as I'm concerned have no artistic value. I have no desire to watch them and don't like the fact that a lot of people seem to get off on doing so. I 100% support their right to be made and distributed though because they aren't snuff films. i.e. No one actually gets killed.
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Postby hundefar » Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:24 am

IparryU wrote:
i see your point, but kiddy porn is just something i dontt like to have going around



I don't like that either. But this is not child pornography. These are drawings. Sometimes people produce literature or movies or video games or sculptures or music or other stuff that some people find offensive. Sometimes the people who are offended would like for the state to intervene and outlaw it. They might even claim that watching the movie/reading the book/playing the video game/listening to the song will make someone engage in rape/murder/molestation of children/satanic ritual abuse or whatever. However, there is no proof that this is true.

The thing is, you can't just go around outlawing stuff because you find offensive or immoral. If we did that we wouldn't be able to do anything, because there's always someone who will be offended no matter what you do. So I say, save the punishment for those actually hurts someone, and those who are offended will just have to grow a thicker skin and learn to accept that they can't outlaw everything just because they don't like it..That is at least how I'd like it to be, because I don't want to live in facist society where I couldn't read Nabokov's 'Lolita' or listen to a song with shocking or offensive lyrics. But then again, that's just me..
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Postby AssKissinger » Wed Feb 02, 2011 5:39 am

How about fiction?

There once was a child who sucked a grown man's dick.

The end.

Should I go to jail?
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:16 am

AssKissinger wrote:How about fiction?

There once was a child who sucked a grown man's dick.

The end.

Should I go to jail?


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Postby Greji » Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:46 am

AssKissinger wrote:How about fiction?

There once was a child who sucked a grown man's dick.

The end.

Should I go to jail?


Nice short story tho, but I was a little confused with the plot...
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Postby BigInJapan » Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:10 am

greji wrote:Nice short story tho, but I was a little confused with the plot...

How about this revised edition then:

There once was a goat who sucked a grown man's dick.

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Postby Greji » Wed Feb 02, 2011 4:31 pm

BigInJapan wrote:How about this revised edition then:

That should work....
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