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Re: BTW

Postby cstaylor » Thu Aug 28, 2003 4:36 pm

NeoNecroNomiCron wrote:You can see 60 y/o bums on the street does that make them wise becasue they haved lived 60 years in this life.
I think the word would be "survived" instead of lived. ;)
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Re: BTW

Postby ramchop » Thu Aug 28, 2003 4:46 pm

NeoNecroNomiCron wrote:Wisdom comes from gaining information and using it benifitialy.


errr, no.

Wisdom comes from gaining information and seeing the effects of its use. You learn just as much from your mistakes/trangressions as you do from your successes/good deeds.
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Re: BTW

Postby NeoNecroNomiCron » Thu Aug 28, 2003 4:48 pm

cstaylor wrote:
NeoNecroNomiCron wrote:You can see 60 y/o bums on the street does that make them wise becasue they haved lived 60 years in this life.
I think the word would be "survived" instead of lived. ]

I wonder what the learning curve is for building a house out of cardboard?

I guess its about the same as learning to say "would you like fries with that?"


I hate people making relationships between age and wisdom. People make stupid mistake all their lives. Just becasue you are old you automaticaly get a gold star for wisdom after you pass 40.


I sincearly belive the older you get the more you fall for propaganda. Thats why fucked up governments all over the world control everything for their peers. Thinking nothing of the next generation. Old people nowerdays are just plain selfcentered.






Sorry for ranting I am sick today. Ranting is not clever or wise I will stop.
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Re: BTW

Postby NeoNecroNomiCron » Thu Aug 28, 2003 4:49 pm

ramchop wrote:
NeoNecroNomiCron wrote:Wisdom comes from gaining information and using it benifitialy.


errr, no.

Wisdom comes from gaining information and seeing the effects of its use. You learn just as much from your mistakes/trangressions as you do from your successes/good deeds.


I agree I will incorperate both to my better understanding. A wise decision I guess.
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Postby NeoNecroNomiCron » Thu Aug 28, 2003 4:53 pm

I wonder what the youth of today thinks wisdom is Urban Dictionary deffination
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Postby NeoNecroNomiCron » Thu Aug 28, 2003 5:07 pm

The topic of this Thread is Age and Wisdom everybody quantified their age but nobody quantified their wisdom. Does quantifing you wisdom create a paradox as nobody knows much about anything we just just plod along meaninglesly. Why am I the youngest in this tread but I try and see the bigger picture.

Joseph W. Meeker sums it up in a profound paragraph from his article "Wisdom and Wilderness":

Wisdom is a state of the human mind characterized by profound understanding and deep insight. It is often, but not necessarily, accompanied by extensive formal knowledge. Unschooled people can acquire wisdom, and wise people can be found among carpenters, fishermen, or housewives. Wherever it exists, wisdom shows itself as a perception of the relativity and relationships among things. It is an awareness of wholeness that does not lose sight of particularity or concreteness, or of the intricacies of interrelationships. It is where left and right brain come together in a union of logic and poetry and sensation, and where self-awareness is no longer at odds with awareness of the otherness of the world. Wisdom cannot be confined to a specialized field, nor is it an academic discipline; it is the consciousness of wholeness and integrity that transcends both. Wisdom is complexity understood and relationships accepted.




Please people post more. Chalenge yourselves. COme up with something insite full. Or lets just talk about sex.
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Postby cstaylor » Thu Aug 28, 2003 5:12 pm

NeoNecroNomiCron wrote:Chalenge yourselves. COme up with something insite full. Or lets just talk about sex.
Before one can communicate, one must master the art of communication. Spelling and grammar are the linchpin of great ideas and observations.
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Postby NeoNecroNomiCron » Thu Aug 28, 2003 5:28 pm

cstaylor wrote:
NeoNecroNomiCron wrote:Chalenge yourselves. COme up with something insite full. Or lets just talk about sex.
Before one can communicate, one must master the art of communication. Spelling and grammar are the linchpin of great ideas and observations.


As it happens and I have mentioned on other posts I am Dyslexic. the truth is i dont care anymore about spelling or gramitical mistakes. Writing is an abstrack form of comunication. Limited alphabets based on sounds are over symplified drivel. There is no word for Dyslexics in Japanese and particulary chinese as they use idograms (pictorial language) most Dyslexics process visualy . Dyslexia is not a learning disability it is just a different perspective in life. Why should I confrom to your rules when you havn't live one day in mine.


BTW I have quite a High IQ I excell at Abstract Reasoning, Mechnical Reasoning, Maths and Spatial Awareness. As a Dyslexic socity puts you through stupid tests like IQ and Direct Aptitude Tests to see where you fit in. I refuse to fit in! Socity is a gimik to fool all you sheeple (I made this up Sheep pleople :twisted: ) I Direct Aptitude tests on the topics i stated above I gained 99 percentile of the general population I am not saying this to boast just to show spelling bares no Relevance to intelligence or wisdom same with age. I have a Masters Degree. And universitys are making more provisions for Dyslexics as ..... (i will finish later just got a bit of heart burn)
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Postby cstaylor » Thu Aug 28, 2003 5:34 pm

NeoNecroNomiCron wrote:As it happens and I have mentioned on other posts I am Dyslexic. the truth is i dont care anymore about spelling or gramitical mistakes.
Ah, but your reader doesn't know that, so unless you restrict yourself to oral communication or preface each work with a bi-line about your disability, they will tire from stumbling over your mistakes.

Communication is about expressing ideas for others to digest, and those readers rightfully expect quality in what they read.

Is it really that difficult to run your posts through a spell checker before posting?
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Postby NeoNecroNomiCron » Thu Aug 28, 2003 5:34 pm

cstaylor wrote:
NeoNecroNomiCron wrote:Chalenge yourselves. COme up with something insite full. Or lets just talk about sex.
Before one can communicate, one must master the art of communication. Spelling and grammar are the linchpin of great ideas and observations.



CS you are just another propaganda beliving sheeple. Focusing in on the insignificant while losing the bigger picture. Wise?
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Postby cstaylor » Thu Aug 28, 2003 5:36 pm

NeoNecroNomiCron wrote:CS you are just another propaganda beliving sheeple. Focusing in on the insignificant while losing the bigger picture. Wise?
No, it's called respecting the reader. If you don't respect me as your reader, why should I respect your opinion as a writer?
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Postby NeoNecroNomiCron » Thu Aug 28, 2003 5:38 pm

cstaylor wrote:
NeoNecroNomiCron wrote:As it happens and I have mentioned on other posts I am Dyslexic. the truth is i dont care anymore about spelling or gramitical mistakes.
Ah, but your reader doesn't know that, so unless you restrict yourself to oral communication or preface each work with a bi-line about your disability, they will tire from stumbling over your mistakes.

Communication is about expressing ideas for others to digest, and those readers rightfully expect quality in what they read.

Is it really that difficult to run your posts through a spell checker before posting?


Dyslexia is not a disability, I am in no way disabled. Sheeple like to classify others to make themselves feel better.
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"I made this up Sheep pleople"

Postby Taro Toporific » Thu Aug 28, 2003 5:40 pm

NeoNecroNomiCron wrote:I refuse to fit in! Socity is a gimik to fool all you sheeple (I made this up Sheep pleople :twisted: ))


Wow. You have the copyright of "Sheeple". :bowdown: You were a child prodigy!

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Postby cstaylor » Thu Aug 28, 2003 5:40 pm

Your ability to communicate by written word is disabled, or you don't respect us enough to make the effort.
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Postby NeoNecroNomiCron » Thu Aug 28, 2003 5:41 pm

cstaylor wrote:
NeoNecroNomiCron wrote:CS you are just another propaganda beliving sheeple. Focusing in on the insignificant while losing the bigger picture. Wise?
No, it's called respecting the reader. If you don't respect me as your reader, why should I respect your opinion as a writer?



Becasue of you read the opening banner of this board it says chit chat and other nonsence i didnt see the words academic and peer reviewed in the title. WHen it does i will get my speel checker out and submit articles that are academic and have correct references for my opinions.
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Postby NeoNecroNomiCron » Thu Aug 28, 2003 5:43 pm

Do make an effort in understanding me NO that is why you critised me initialy. Remember if you judge you will be judged on your one judgement i hope you never make a fucking spelling or grammer mistake.
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Postby cstaylor » Thu Aug 28, 2003 5:45 pm

Hey, no worries. You asked us to post something insightful, so I did. In summary: "does a writer's poor grasp on grammar and spelling detract from their points?"
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What a real ....

Postby Shibuya Me » Thu Aug 28, 2003 5:51 pm

:D

I think it is a shame that NeoNecroNomiCron seem to love to fight with everyone on this site. The topic was age and wisdom. No one said they go together. It was just a topic line.

What I find funny about NeoNecroNomiCron, is that she writes up anything negative on this board just so she can have her voice. I have been viewing this site for a bit..and this NeoNecroNomiCron just wants to fight with everyone.

Maybe its just me, but fighting about the topic Age and Wisdom just tells me just a little bit more about her....

And, if you notice her threads....all fighting with anyone who will respond to her....

Unless I am wrong, this site is for conversation. Not for the right to be annoying to everyone.

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Postby cstaylor » Thu Aug 28, 2003 5:59 pm

What I find troubling about young people such as NeoNecroNomiCron and <name-deleted> is that they get angry when people point out their mistakes. We get the long string of excuses: "this is a stream of consciousness", "this is a chat board, not a place where I care what you think", "I am dyslexic, so I don't have to follow common rules of grammar and spelling". I would think a little bit of embarrassment would serve them better in the long run; at the least, it should provide some motivation to try harder.
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Postby kamome » Thu Aug 28, 2003 6:51 pm

[quote="cstaylor"]What I find troubling about young people such as NeoNecroNomiCron and <name-deleted> is that they get angry when people point out their mistakes. We get the long string of excuses: "this is a stream of consciousness", "this is a chat board, not a place where I care what you think", "I am dyslexic, so I don't have to follow common rules of grammar and spelling". I would think a little bit of embarrassment would serve them better in the long run]

I agree. All those excuses are just crutches for laziness. NeoNecro: you like to talk about your IQ. If you were really smart, you would have been able to figure out how to make your posts more readable despite your dyslexia (i.e., by using a spellchecker). And you also would be smart enough to avoid antagonizing every member of this board.
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Age And Wisdom....

Postby Shibuya Me » Thu Aug 28, 2003 6:55 pm

:?

Age and Wisdom do not walk hand in hand. That is true. However, to nit pick over error in grammar (grammer) gram crackers ....ahhhhh...well it is just a big waste of time NeoNecroNomiCron.

You see, when NeoNecroNomiCron wants to feel good about herself...she looks for spelling errors.

I guess that is what NeoNecroNomiCron needs to feel that life is okay.
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Postby Shibuya Me » Thu Aug 28, 2003 7:02 pm

Now kamome seems to need us all to say that life is okay too.

kamome, please be kind.

Really. Back to the point here...Age and Wisdom.

What was the question? There is so much ignorance on this topic due to the lack of wisdom that I lost track of the question!

mmmmmm...what was it...... Oh yes...how old are people who frequent this site?

That was it. Peace out! Feel the groove. Okay. Now were on track..... :D
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Postby gomichild » Thu Aug 28, 2003 8:28 pm

I'm younger than GomiGirl... :twisted:
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Are you 19?

Postby Shibuya Me » Thu Aug 28, 2003 8:31 pm

Are you a young 19 year old girl?

Mmmmmmmmmmmm? :twisted:
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Postby cliffy » Thu Aug 28, 2003 10:35 pm

[quote=""AlcazarGomiGirl I could tell roughly how old you were before when you mentioned what TV shows you watched as a kid in Australia-'The Goodies', oh please that was on when I was in junior primary school. I watched it, didn't really understand it, but I liked it. Just like 'Doctor Who' back then on the ABC. ANCIENT!! :D :D


Alcazar[/quote"]

That's a bit rough, I am 37, older than GG, and I also watched the same shows in primary school, First runs admittedly but I also watched ALL the re runs too :!:
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Postby Andocrates » Thu Aug 28, 2003 10:50 pm

Like my friend momo-chan told me once in a burst of anger. "Age is just (a) number, but you act like a 12 years (sic) old boy."

She couldn't understand why I thought that was a compliment.
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Postby American Oyaji » Thu Aug 28, 2003 10:57 pm

Age and wisdom SHOULD go hand in hand if you are open to learning.

But there are still 45 year old floozies still chasing the dream of being a rock and roll honey.

That time has long passed them, yet......they continue on that broken dream.

There are 50 year old salarymen chasing schoolgirls......

This world needs help...anyway....to lighter subjects.



As for GomiGirl......she's a cutie pie. I'll vouch for that. I saw her pic I did.
Tinateoh is a cute one as well.

I cant give better marks due to the quality of the pictures. Jusht first impresshons ya know
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Postby Alcazar » Fri Aug 29, 2003 12:25 am

cliffy wrote:That's a bit rough, I am 37, older than GG, and I also watched the same shows in primary school, First runs admittedly but I also watched ALL the re runs too :!:


No no no! I didn't mean that I thought GG was ancient, I was refering to the TV shows like Dr Who and the Goodies. I thought of them and they just seem so old today. I just hadn't thought of them for many years and I remember how they were really basic compared to today's high budget programs. Unfortunate choice of words on my part there!

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Re: Age And Wisdom....

Postby ramchop » Fri Aug 29, 2003 8:34 am

Shibuya Me wrote::?

Age and Wisdom do not walk hand in hand. That is true. However, to nit pick over error in grammar (grammer) gram crackers ....ahhhhh...well it is just a big waste of time NeoNecroNomiCron.

You see, when NeoNecroNomiCron wants to feel good about herself...she looks for spelling errors.

I guess that is what NeoNecroNomiCron needs to feel that life is okay.


I got into trouble last time I said this, but really, What the fuck are you on about?

NNNC is the nitpickee not the nitpicker in this instance. If he (where did the "she" "her"... come from?, still recovering from your "Dickie" tormentor?) takes an abusive stance then he's open to a bit of stick himself. He may have overreacted to this stick, but hey, if he's dyslexic then I can see why it'd be a sore point.
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Postby cstaylor » Fri Aug 29, 2003 8:51 am

This "nitpicking" started when I pointed out the oddity of posting "insite full" (sic) thoughts without bothering to use proper grammar or spelling. If I was having that kind of trouble with the basic mechanics, I would master them before attempting the difficult task of posting complex thoughts. :idea:
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