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Postby IkemenTommy » Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:00 pm

I fully recognize that the posession of guns and katana swords are illegal in Japan by law but I was wondering if there were any restrictions for owning a stun gun if anyone knows anything about this subject. Technically, a stun gun is not a gun but it is a weapon nonetheless and I have never seen anyone carry one around.

I am looking for one for my gal because she was groped by a chikan on the train the other night. Needless to say, she was all shaken up by the ordeal and it was not the first time it ever happened to her and I bet it won't be the last either.

The problem is she did not follow the motherfucker getting off at his stop and alert the authority (the eki-in in this case) like I told her before so I doubt she would ever use the device on anyone in the right opportunity.

The other thing I have against this idea is if she ended up using it on myself.. I can't put any wrong thoughts in her head now by suggesting anything remotely close to that idea. :glow2:

Thanks in advance and your expertise on this topic is welcome.
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Postby Coligny » Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:09 pm

IkemenTommy wrote:I fully recognize that the posession of guns and katana swords are illegal in Japan by law but I was wondering if there were any restrictions for owning a stun gun if anyone knows anything about this subject. Technically, a stun gun is not a gun but it is a weapon nonetheless and I have never seen anyone carry one around.

I am looking for one for my gal because she was groped by a chikan on the train the other night. Needless to say, she was all shaken up by the ordeal and it was not the first time it ever happened to her and I bet it won't be the last either.

The problem is she did not follow the motherfucker getting off at his stop and alert the authority (the eki-in in this case) like I told her before so I doubt she would ever use the device on anyone in the right opportunity.

The other thing I have against this idea is if she ended up using it on myself.. I can't put any wrong thoughts in her head now by suggesting anything remotely close to that idea. :glow2:

Thanks in advance and your expertise on this topic is welcome.


If she's nihonjin, she might not have too much trouble to get some bear repellant... afterall it's nearly mandatory in Hokkaido... (shivers...) Automotive flares (500-600 yens any autobacs) would also rank quite high on the list of things to use 1- it push assaillant away, 2- it attract attention a plenty
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Postby Yokohammer » Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:13 pm

IkemenTommy wrote:I am looking for one for my gal because she was groped by a chikan on the train the other night. Needless to say, she was all shaken up by the ordeal and it was not the first time it ever happened to her and I bet it won't be the last either.

They used to sell 'em at Akihabara (might still do), so I'm guessing they're not illegal to own. I suspect that using them is a different matter though.

Somehow I think that a woman zapping a bloke on the train, whether he's a "chikan" or not, is going to have pretty serious repercussions.
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Postby Catoneinutica » Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:18 pm

Coligny wrote:If she's nihonjin, she might not have too much trouble to get some bear repellant... afterall it's nearly mandatory in Hokkaido... (shivers...) Automotive flares (500-600 yens any autobacs) would also rank quite high on the list of things to use 1- it push assaillant away, 2- it attract attention a plenty


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It may be legal to buy, but to use YMMV???

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Postby Coligny » Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:48 pm

Taro Toporific wrote:Lovely Pink Seal Stun Gun Lovely Taser Weapon!
1,650 JPY
strapya-world.com | Model: 389-706135
Give Electric Shock to Crazy Japanese Businessmen!
Pink Seal Charm "Ouch!" Lovely Pink Seal Taser
The most Kawaii Stun Gun ever!
Caution! It's an Electric seal!
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http://forum.gaijinpot.com/showthread.php?76869-Pepper-Spray-in-Japan


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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:11 pm

IkemenTommy wrote:The problem is she did not follow the motherfucker getting off at his stop and alert the authority (the eki-in in this case).


That's the last thing she should do.

The fact is that while being groped on the train is a violation and certainly disgusting it's generally not a dangerous situation. However, following a guy off the train and trying to detain him youself could lead to a violent confrontation. What she and any woman should do is as soon as they realize they're being groped speak up and demand help from the people around her.
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Postby Kanchou » Sat Apr 16, 2011 9:59 am

IkemenTommy wrote:I fully recognize that the posession of guns and katana swords are illegal in Japan by law but I was wondering if there were any restrictions for owning a stun gun if anyone knows anything about this subject. Technically, a stun gun is not a gun but it is a weapon nonetheless and I have never seen anyone carry one around.

I am looking for one for my gal because she was groped by a chikan on the train the other night. Needless to say, she was all shaken up by the ordeal and it was not the first time it ever happened to her and I bet it won't be the last either.

The problem is she did not follow the motherfucker getting off at his stop and alert the authority (the eki-in in this case) like I told her before so I doubt she would ever use the device on anyone in the right opportunity.

The other thing I have against this idea is if she ended up using it on myself.. I can't put any wrong thoughts in her head now by suggesting anything remotely close to that idea. :glow2:

Thanks in advance and your expertise on this topic is welcome.


Guns and swords aren't illegal, you simply have to have a license to own one, and no one can have a license.

(except hunters and sword collectors)

And if you ever take a Japanese sword out of Japan, don't bother trying to bring it back.
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Postby FG Lurker » Sat Apr 16, 2011 9:02 pm

Didn't Steve Bilderman have a license? Pretty sure I remember him saying he did.

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Postby Coligny » Sat Apr 16, 2011 9:41 pm

Kanchou wrote:Guns and swords aren't illegal, you simply have to have a license to own one, and no one can have a license.

(except hunters and sword collectors)

And if you ever take a Japanese sword out of Japan, don't bother trying to bring it back.

The problem is whatever you take, you have to be 1 eager to use it and 2 sure it won't create more problem than it will solve.

My policy have always been to detect situations than can go "real baaad" and always run away from them. And I don't mind aboot false positive in this case. That's why I never carried any kind of weapon, with knives you have to go hand to hand combat. Someone willing to engage fight in this condition will win against me in no time if I don't hurt myself before he have chances to do so. Guns... no training, not a single bit of technical knowledge, no interest, too much risks of collateral damage...

Meanwhile...
Back home pepper spray was "de rigueur".
Fire extinguishers (especially the carbon type) excellent for dispersion of aggressors.
Flares.... already said.
sand
ground pepper
hot coffee (extreme case)
window cleaner
Strong perfume (in atomiser)(an enemy too busy to vomit won't have time to bother you)(and get some perfume in your eyes, you will know what PAIIINN is)
Squirt gun loaded with any kind of liquids, vinegar being a good start.

The list can go on for quite some time...
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Postby Kanchou » Sat Apr 16, 2011 9:47 pm

Those are all good ways to get yourself killed, compared to simply carrying a proper weapon.

Especially when dealing with crackheads and dangerous animals.
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Postby Coligny » Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:19 pm

Kanchou wrote:Those are all good ways to get yourself killed, compared to simply carrying a proper weapon.

Especially when dealing with crackheads and dangerous animals.


Nice to see that you completely missed the "better avoid fight" category from my post.

So I'll explain again.

For small grade trouble makers. Dispersion weapons. (including acting out to out-crazy the assaillant).

For big grade trouble makers, evasive actions because I don't want to have to prepare like if I was living in a war zone everytime I go out just because there might be weirdos outside.
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Postby Kanchou » Sun Apr 17, 2011 7:11 am

It's better to run away with a loaded handgun than a cup of hot coffee.
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Sun Apr 17, 2011 7:54 am

Kanchou wrote:It's better to run away with a loaded handgun than a cup of hot coffee.


It's never better to have a loaded handgun unless you're willing and able to use it.
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Postby Kanchou » Sun Apr 17, 2011 9:46 am

Better to have something and not need it than need it and not have it.

But since this is Japan and carrying a stun gun is a best legally questionable I think pepper spray would be a better choice. But using it against a Chikan in a closed train car in close proximity to innocent bystanders isn't a great idea. So just headbutt the guy instead.
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Postby Big Boy » Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:48 am

A chikan depends on crowded trains to "accidentally" brush badgers so pepper sprays and tasers would more than likely also injure the seated bachan or yochien munchkin. Recommend a simple knee to the nads if it came down to that.
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Postby FG Lurker » Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:54 am

Coligny wrote:My policy have always been to detect situations than can go "real baaad" and always run away from them. And I don't mind aboot false positive in this case.

French much? :p
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:19 pm

Big Boy wrote:A chikan depends on crowded trains to "accidentally" brush badgers so pepper sprays and tasers would more than likely also injure the seated bachan or yochien munchkin. Recommend a simple knee to the nads if it came down to that.


I'm sure that using pepper spray on a crowded train in Japan would get you arrested regardless of the situation.
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Postby cstaylor » Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:27 pm

Kanchou wrote:But using it against a Chikan in a closed train car in close proximity to innocent bystanders isn't a great idea. So just headbutt the guy instead.

Or just take the designated chikan-free ladies car. If only they had a drunk salaryman car as well... :puke:
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Postby BigInJapan » Sun Apr 17, 2011 6:34 pm

cstaylor wrote:If only they had a drunk salaryman car as well... :puke:

That would be every car on the train after 7pm on Friday night...
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Postby Coligny » Sun Apr 17, 2011 8:01 pm

FG Lurker wrote:French much? :p


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Postby FG Lurker » Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:52 am

BigInJapan wrote:That would be every car on the train after 7pm on Friday night...

Yeah, I was going to say, "I think that's known as 'the entire train' a lot of the time..."
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Postby cstaylor » Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:59 am

FG Lurker wrote:Yeah, I was going to say, "I think that's known as 'the entire train' a lot of the time..."

That's my point. If they could designate a too-drunk-to-stand car or two, the rest of us (relatively) responsible drinkers wouldn't need a rain parka to survive the way home unscathed. :cheers:
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Postby matsuki » Mon Apr 18, 2011 12:34 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:What she and any woman should do is as soon as they realize they're being groped speak up and demand help from the people around her.


THIS

Even the most "independent" women tend to become spineless children when violated. Not likely they are going to put up a good fight or do anything successful on their own but screaming "chikan!" will get everyone's attention fast.

I forced some dumb girl out of my apartment last year because after ranting at me (2am) loud enough to wake the neigbors, she started screaming rape. I figured anyone that saw her trying to force her way in to my apartment instead of running from the "rape" would make it obvious she was full of shit but nonetheless I spent a few hours at the police station until she finally broke down and admitted she was not raped, simply upset I kicked her out. The cruiser ride back to my apartment was hilarious though, the senior officer gave me the advice "next time get a whore, will cost yah but they won't give you any trouble afterwards."
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