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Busy night (solar EM activities)

Postby Coligny » Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:00 am

Received a buckitfull of alert tonight aboot solar activity and woke up to 2 devices going tits up: One Wifi bridge and the old video security server...

Unfortunately as usual, you have to make sense of this kind of message to understand whatsgoing on:
Space Weather Message Code: WARK07
Serial Number: 32
Issue Time: 2011 Aug 05 2146 UTC
WARNING: Geomagnetic K-index of 7 or greater expected
Valid From: 2011 Aug 05 2200 UTC
Valid To: 2011 Aug 06 0300 UTC
Warning Condition: Onset NOAA
Scale: G3 or greater - Strong to Extreme

-Warning Quack science inside- :
Last big solar activity was around early march. Hope their aint no link with them quake...
(correlation aint causation...)
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Postby Yokohammer » Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:07 am

Hmm ... this?

GEOMAGNETIC STORM IN PROGRESS: A major geomagnetic storm is in progress following the impact of a CME on August 5th around 1800 UT. Sky watchers at all latitudes should be alert for auroras after nightfall. Tip: the best hours for aurora sightings are usually around local midnight. Aurora alerts: text, voice.

Reports of Northern Lights are coming in from many European countries including Germany, Denmark, Scotland and the Netherlands.

Analysts at the Goddard Space Weather Lab say that the CME impact may have strongly compressed Earth's magnetic field, directly exposing satellites in geosynchronous orbit to solar wind plasma. Stay tuned for updates on this aspect of the storm.


You're tracking space weather? Where at?
(Jeez ... and I thought I was an über-geek).

Edit: You might want to click the "Not news" button below the entry field when making posts like this, to keep it from going on the front page and incurring the wrath of the non-gee ... er ... "normal" contingent.
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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Sat Aug 06, 2011 12:23 pm

:shock:


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Postby Taro Toporific » Sat Aug 06, 2011 12:25 pm

Yokohammer wrote:...when making posts like this, to keep it from going on the front page and incurring the wrath of the non-gee ... er ... "normal" contingent.

Since when did the FG have a "normal" contingent?:p
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Postby Yokohammer » Sat Aug 06, 2011 12:30 pm

Taro Toporific wrote:Since when did the FG have a "normal" contingent?:p

Erm ... "more normal?" :spin:
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Postby Coligny » Sat Aug 06, 2011 2:27 pm

[quote="Yokohammer"]
You're tracking space weather? Where at?
(Jeez ... and I thought I was an ü]
The NOAA have a web email alert. I've registered with them more than 10 years ago. Previous sysadmin job had crapload of old computer plugged to lab equipment. The older they get the more sensitive they are to solar crapstorms. Fun place... all research field were included, biology, linguistic, historian, ethnologist... Got aware of the solar influence by an old astronomer (http://www.academie-sciences.fr/academie/membre/Pecker_JC.htm coolest guy evar... always got some booze ready to flow...)
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Postby Yokohammer » Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:54 pm

Cool!
Learned something new.
Thanks for that.
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Postby Coligny » Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:31 am

Fook fook fook fook...

http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/11/08/08/0321231/Power-Companies-Brace-For-Solar-Storms

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Postby Yokohammer » Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:21 am

Coligny wrote:Fook fook fook fook...

http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/11/08/08/0321231/Power-Companies-Brace-For-Solar-Storms

shut


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Oh, nice.
So what's the chance of this causing a problem at, ... oh, I dunno ... a nuclear power plant somewhere for example?
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Postby Coligny » Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:16 am

Usually it's more distribution problems, grid going tits up, satellites getting fried, wireless comms shutting downs (wifi, keitai, phs, 3g). Random computer crash, car GPS losing north... At worth you get blackouts

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_1989_geomagnetic_storm

(unfortunately no numbers for this one as it was believed to be a Soviet attack... OMG... commy SUN...)

Meanwhile... no Dead waking from their graves, mass hysteria, virgin sacrifices...
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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:12 am

Coligny wrote:Usually it's more distribution problems, grid going tits up, satellites getting fried, wireless comms shutting downs (wifi, keitai, phs, 3g). Random computer crash, car GPS losing north... At worth you get blackouts

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_1989_geomagnetic_storm

(unfortunately no numbers for this one as it was believed to be a Soviet attack... OMG... commy SUN...)

Meanwhile... no Dead waking from their graves, mass hysteria, virgin sacrifices...


I'll take the sacrificing of virginity and you guys can have all the rest....
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Postby IparryU » Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:31 am

Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:I'll take the sacrificing of virginity and you guys can have all the rest....
i want a part in that too... as long as they are not catholic priests
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Postby matsuki » Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:26 pm

Virgins are overrated...give me someone that knows what they're doing and doesn't make you stop every 10 seconds because it hurts.
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Postby Coligny » Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:48 pm

Sorry to go back on topic, but the flare went the other way, all is safe for now... nothing more than few glitches here and there...
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Postby Mike Oxlong » Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:26 pm

How's tricks in Toyokawa?

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Postby Coligny » Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:45 pm

Network black out last night at 2:00... WIRED network blackout... one of the wireless AP started vomitting on the ethernet port disrupting everyone even 2 switches away... Can't tell if it's because of this.

Also certainly unrelated but car battery HS between 10am and 5pm...

It's the second sh1tstorm this week, there was some action sunday too... Sun ain't no happy...
(BTW... I are in Toyohashi... not Toyokawa...)
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Postby IparryU » Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:59 am

Coligny wrote:Network black out last night at 2:00... WIRED network blackout... one of the wireless AP started vomitting on the ethernet port disrupting everyone even 2 switches away... Can't tell if it's because of this.

Also certainly unrelated but car battery HS between 10am and 5pm...

It's the second sh1tstorm this week, there was some action sunday too... Sun ain't no happy...
(BTW... I are in Toyohashi... not Toyokawa...)

can we resume the virgin topic?
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Postby Coligny » Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:44 am

IparryU wrote:can we resume the virgin topic?


For mythical creature I prefer hydras and dragons (euro specs)... and griffons too... they are totally cool... I want some in concrete art deco style at the corner of mah bunker actin as gargoyles... (like th3 Chrysler building)
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Postby IparryU » Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:33 am

Coligny wrote:For mythical creature I prefer hydras and dragons (euro specs)... and griffons too... they are totally cool... I want some in concrete art deco style at the corner of mah bunker actin as gargoyles... (like th3 Chrysler building)

Pretty sure that Griji has some stuffed (former) lover goats in his pad that he can give you...

you just have to dip 'em in cement and wait for them to get hard (again). just hope that greji had them in good poses...
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Postby Greji » Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:41 pm

IparryU wrote:Pretty sure that Griji has some stuffed (former) lover goats in his pad that he can give you...

you just have to dip 'em in cement and wait for them to get hard (again). just hope that greji had them in good poses...

I got an old nanny that he can have. Comes mounted with a four cylinder Briggs Straton and a kick starter. Used condition......
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Postby tone » Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:52 pm

a few coworkers heard somewhere today is a high chance for an earthquake

then they went into a "japan is so fucked... oh well" line of circular talking

couldnt nail down their sources, but maybe its to do with the EM frequencies?
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Postby matsuki » Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:53 pm

Coligny wrote:For mythical creature I prefer...


They do exist...I've stolen enough flowers here to make an entry into the rose parade...but as I think I've said on here, it's not exactly all it's cracked up to be.
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Postby Yokohammer » Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:27 pm

tone wrote:a few coworkers heard somewhere today is a high chance for an earthquake

then they went into a "japan is so fucked... oh well" line of circular talking

couldnt nail down their sources, but maybe its to do with the EM frequencies?

That does seem to be the rumor of the day, strangely coinciding with a flurry of media reports regarding this 70% possibility of a major quaker in the next four years thing.

If earthquake prediction was actually possible, we surely would have known about 3.11 before it happened. And the big aftershock on 4.7.

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Postby Coligny » Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:59 pm

Yokohammer wrote:If earthquake prediction was actually possible, we surely would have known about 3.11 before it happened. And the big aftershock on 4.7.

Technically... it is possible...

Just not feasible as of today's available technology.

It's just a matter of density of data collection...

Stuff enough strain gauges or pressure sensors on the ground up to kilometers deep, let them record for hundreds of years and you will be able to forecast everything... It's not much different from determining the rupture point of any material... except your dealing with insane amount of weighty dirt (pondereux in French) constantly moving at dreafully slow speed and without proper knowledge of the real composition...
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Postby Yokohammer » Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:15 pm

Coligny wrote:Technically... it is possible...

Just not feasible as of today's available technology.

It's just a matter of density of data collection...

Stuff enough strain gauges or pressure sensors on the ground up to kilometers deep, let them record for hundreds of years and you will be able to forecast everything... It's not much different from determining the rupture point of any material... except your dealing with insane amount of weighty dirt (pondereux in French) constantly moving at dreafully slow speed and without proper knowledge of the real composition...

In a few hundred years there'll be better ways to do it than having to stuff strain gauges in every inaccessible nook and cranny, I'm sure. In less time than that there'll probably be ways to monitor plate strain and slippage from satellites.

I'm talking about now.

Still, even with the best and most copious data, I'm not confident there'll be any way to predict the exact day on which a quake will occur any time soon.
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Postby Coligny » Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:41 pm

Yokohammer wrote:Still, even with the best and most copious data, I'm not confident there'll be any way to predict the exact day on which a quake will occur any time soon.


Can't even do that with french trains...
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Postby Yokohammer » Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:59 pm

Coligny wrote:Can't even do that with french trains...

Ah ... so either you guys are getting your railway technology from the British, or they're getting it from you guys.
Either way you're both farked. :mrgreen:
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Postby Coligny » Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:08 pm

Yokohammer wrote:Ah ... so either you guys are getting your railway technology from the British, or they're getting it from you guys.
Either way you're both farked. :mrgreen:


It's not the technology the problem... It's the strikes...
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Postby Coligny » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:52 pm

Solar storm... slow internet...
I'm pretty sure the amount of alert email warning from space-weather service is directly responsible for the later....

As usual... no way to make any sense from their alert message...
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Postby legion » Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:39 pm

Yokohammer wrote:In a few hundred years there'll be better ways to do it than having to stuff strain gauges in every inaccessible nook and cranny, I'm sure. In less time than that there'll probably be ways to monitor plate strain and slippage from satellites.

I'm talking about now.

Still, even with the best and most copious data, I'm not confident there'll be any way to predict the exact day on which a quake will occur any time soon.


sorry to backtrack, but there is something I've been wondering about, doesn't every quake alter the odds of the big quake?
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