Meltdown: What would it take for you to flee Tokyo?

[Samurai_Jerk]

With all the back and forth about whether or not it's safe to stay in Tokyo (I know people that have recently left or are seriously thinking about it even now) I was wondering what it would take for my fellow FG's to actually leave Tokyo or other cities within several hundred kilometers radius of the reactors? Even if the place blows up tomorrow like an A-bomb, I don't know enough about radiation to know how far away one would have to go to be safe.

[Sa_Race]

A massive release of radioactive gases or particulates in the air. An explosion basically, Chernobyl style. If you can't move quickly enough, the best thing to do is draughtproof your place and stay inside for 3 to 5 days depending on the weather, etc... Then GTFO this doomed country.

[Mike Oxlong]

If somehow CJ got back in...

In that case your BoB better include:

•industrial grade bullshit detector
•huge grain of salt
•powerful anti-emetics

[Coligny]

Actually... Despite all the commentsmaking a statement aboot fukushima's explosion being nothing to worry since they were not nuclear explosions...

A real nuclear detonation is MUCH more preferable... Most of the radioelement are turned into a huge fireball... then after the fallout settles it's back to business... Notice how Hiroshima and Nagasaki are quite lively places these days... while Pripyat is a complete write off...

For Chernobyl and Fukushima while there is no cold-war style psychological stigma linked to the kab00m mushroom... you got uncontained stuff that continue to vomit radioelement that were supposed to happily make steam in their glorified pressure cooker...

To be back on topic...
Can't answer... I don't even really know why I'm here... But I miss Saigon every single minute of the day...

[Dreamy_Peach]

When the contracts stop, and the money stops coming in....

In the meantime I'll put up with all kinds of crap ...

[Greji]

When Noriko claims I knocked her up......

[damn name]

After almost 20 years here, I've had enough. I'm not in a panic. I have to wind down my business here, but that could take me about a year. The marital unit is from Okinawa and she'd like to have a place there, since her mother is getting older. So I guess we'll do the part time Okinawa gig once or twice a year, and spend the rest in gaikokuland.

I think there are things more dangerous than Fukushima. I expect the global and Japanese economy to go from bad to worse, starting the end of this year.

Am I worried about the big one in Tokyo? Yep. I think all of our collective luck changed after last March 11th. I'd rather be somewhere else when it happens. I no longer think that I'm lucky and it'll never happen in my lifetime.

And that big one would be a knockout punch to the Japanese economy.

[Mike Oxlong]

I've met five or six people who've moved down here in the last 10 months or so from Tokyo and environs. Whereabouts is the wifey from in the prefecture?

[damn name]

The family is near the old Awase Meadows golf course. I hear it's a Jusco or Aeon mall now? I haven't been there in a couple of years now (too busy), but she goes every year.

[Mike Oxlong]

Yep, the Aeon Shopping Center in Gushikawa. Not to far from the Katsuren Castle Ruins. Nice area that's been gutted, like a lot of nice areas...

[Doctor Stop]

Even if the place blows up tomorrow like an A-bomb, I don't know enough about radiation to know how far away one would have to go to be safe.

You could always follow the CJ bug out method, then you wouldn't have to worry about returning.

[Greji]

You could always follow the CJ bug out method, then you wouldn't have to worry about returning.

Just watch out for the rent a cops with six guns....

[matsuki]

I think there are things more dangerous than Fukushima. I expect the global and Japanese economy to go from bad to worse, starting the end of this year.

Am I worried about the big one in Tokyo? Yep. I think all of our collective luck changed after last March 11th. I'd rather be somewhere else when it happens. I no longer think that I'm lucky and it'll never happen in my lifetime.

And that big one would be a knockout punch to the Japanese economy.

It's like a flush Japan down the toilet cocktail...

I'm already looking at land back in the LA area. I have no idea when I'll actually build on it or anything but with things looking like they are here in Japan and the dollar/land so cheap, it's the only thing I feel safe doing besides investing more in my business. I'll probably stick it out here as long as it feels safe but and my business is doing well but that whole "big one" looming over Tokyo is not reassuring...

[Samurai_Jerk]

After a total of nearly 10 years over a 14 year stretch you can add me to the list of people that are looking for an out. However, it's not about the ongoing Fukushima crisis or the looming big one (good luck with that in LA by the way). It more about the combined effects of the economic collapse and 3/11 on my social and professional life in Japan. Both disasters reaffirmed what I already knew in the back of my mind: no matter how long they're here most gaijin I know are really only here temporarily and most of my Japanese friends aren't really friends.

But anyway, that wasn't my question. I really am curious what it would take happening in Fukushima for people to leave even if it was just temporarily. The reason it's on my mind is that in the last couple of months I've suddenly had people I know start to leave or talk about leaving again because of it. It's probably just a coincidence and not a general trend but it got me thinking. For me it would probably be an evacuation recommendation either from the J-gov (if that happens, it'll already be too late), the US military or the embassy of a Western nation.

[Mike Oxlong]

Yeah, it's pretty depressing. You are not even safe if you flee to the outer edges of the Empire...

39,960 Bq/Kg from ash in Okinawa Pizza shop

[matsuki]

But anyway, that wasn't my question. I really am curious what it would take happening in Fukushima for people to leave even if it was just temporarily. The reason it's on my mind is that in the last couple of months I've suddenly had people I know start to leave or talk about leaving again because of it. It's probably just a coincidence and not a general trend but it got me thinking. For me it would probably be an evacuation recommendation either from the J-gov (if that happens, it'll already be too late), the US military or the embassy of a Western nation.

Probably same threshold as you but I'm doing my best to regain my Platinum status with ANA this year, traveling about once a month, so with any luck, I won't be in Nippon when it becomes Nippowned

[Samurai_Jerk]

Probably same threshold as you but I'm doing my best to regain my Platinum status with ANA this year, traveling about once a month, so with any luck, I won't be in Nippon when it becomes Nippowned

I've already got my escape route planned!

[matsuki]

I've already got my escape route planned!

Do elaborate! (and bonus points if it involves heavy machinery)

[gaijinpunch]

And that big one would be a knockout punch to the Japanese economy.

W/ the rest of the world right behind them.

[Russell]

What would it take for you to flee Tokyo?

Nothing special; just the end of a business trip...

[Coligny]

In 10 months , no criminal investigation, no politician dragged into court, no single national figure has stood up to champion the Fukushima people and the cause of denuclearisation.

Meanwhile in France, the CEO of PIP implant has been pre-emptively jailed for his use of industrial grade silicone instead of medical grade one inside breast implants...

[CrankyBastard]

I don't plan on leaving anytime soon.
Of course, if the place becomes uninhabitable, then I'll walk down to the docks and get a ship out.

[Coligny]

I don't plan on leaving anytime soon.
Of course, if the place becomes uninhabitable, then I'll walk down to the [s]docks[/s] LAUNCHPAD and get a starship out.

While not being an ELE and bevets enjoying to state that dam failure and mine collapse have killed much more workers... That sh1t is not exactly locally restricted by broadcast rights... and judging by how mindboggingly stoopid the clean up is managed there's days were I wonder what the fuck Darwin is busy with that allowed these lemmings to survive so long as a nation... are these people damned ? was the planet once REALLY like on those older nautical charts where anything after Russia on the right side was labelled with "There shall be dragons" or is it just a litteral purgatory and all of us godless commies were dead wrong all along ? Because I still want my share of opiates...

[Yokohammer]

Read this post from JT: from http://www.japantoday.com/category/national/view/tokyo-activists-demand-nuclear-power-eferendum

Hmm ... "Miyagidad" says he is (or was) in southern Miyagi, which means he shouldn't be too far from me.

So Miyagidad, if you happen to read this thread send me a PM!

Suppose i could send him a message over at Japan Today too. Not too many furners around these here parts.

[CrankyBastard]

[quote="M Bison"]Of course, if the place becomes uninhabitable, then I'll walk down to the docks and get a ship out.


Good luck with that, with the rest of the population trying to do the same thing . . unless you live well outside the major metropolises.

You don't sound too worried anyway so that's good ]

It shouldn't be too hard. If there's nothing alongside, I know I can get a launch out to the anchorage. I can probably sign on anything under Japanese, UK or EU registered flag, failing that my ticket is good for Panamanian and Monrovian.
So, yes, not too worried.

[Greji]

It shouldn't be too hard. If there's nothing alongside, I know I can get a launch out to the anchorage. I can probably sign on anything under Japanese, UK or EU registered flag, failing that my ticket is good for Panamanian and Monrovian.
So, yes, not too worried.

Rope man on a junk?

[CrankyBastard]

Rope man on a junk?

Nah! junkman on a rope.

[Greji]

Nah! junkman on a rope.

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to CrankyBastard again."

"That'll teach a zoomie to get smart with a snipe!"

[Coligny]

!?...

[Mike Oxlong]

!?...

Think it's an air force v. navy thing...

Greji cut his teeth as a boy apprentice to the Wright Bros., and Cranky as a cabin boy on board with Adm. Jellicoe.