Gov. Blinky Ishihara wants to buy the Senkaku Rocks

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

You misspelled grauniad...

[Coligny]

You misspelled grauniad...

Lapin...

[matsuki]

'Food terrorism' a new concern in China-Japan rift

There's no reason for them to do that... the PRC just needs to be patient.

JA's stranglehold on Japanese agriculture has inflicted more "food terrorism" on Japan than China ever can.

While I totally agree, this gave me a good laugh...

For Masahiro Hosoi, a 49-year-old organic farmer and restaurant owner, producing food isn’t just about economic efficiency. He says in Japan, it has a deeper, even spiritual meaning.

[Coligny]

For Masahiro Hosoi, a 49-year-old organic farmer and restaurant owner, producing food isn’t just about economic efficiency. He says in Japan, it has a deeper, even spiritual meaning.

The "we japanese" tarded toddler bullshit...

Whar's mah sh00tgun...

[cstaylor]

Well, for Jiminto, it certainly has a get-out-the-vote meaning.

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

You misspelled grauniad...

Lapin...

Meaning? A rabbit?

[Coligny]

It's a super dense unfunny semi private joke...

when sumeone dun't get sumthing, you say "il a pas comprit ?"
if you speak nasally it sounds like "l'a pas comprit ?"
if you speak nasally and have a cold it becomez "lapin comprit ?"
after spending sumtimes with peeps when they notice that i'm a bit slow on average, to discreetly signal that i will need a better explanashiun with simpler words and preferably colored pictures I just state "lapin"

Soooo.....

you misspelled grauniad

LAPIN

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

It's a super dense unfunny semi private joke...

when sumeone dun't get sumthing, you say "il a pas comprit ?"
if you speak nasally it sounds like "l'a pas comprit ?"
if you speak nasally and have a cold it becomez "lapin comprit ?"
after spending sumtimes with peeps when they notice that i'm a bit slow on average, to discreetly signal that i will need a better explanashiun with simpler words and preferably colored pictures I just state "lapin"

Soooo.....

you misspelled grauniad

LAPIN

Merci...back to Plick et Plock

[Russell]

Chinese nationalists covet Okinawa

In a glass case at Beijing’s Imperial College, an 18th century book with a yellowed title page in bold, black characters is evidence—some Chinese say—that a swathe of modern-day Japan belongs to China.

The two Asian powers are already at loggerheads over a set of tiny uninhabited islets in the East China Sea, even stoking fears of armed conflict.

But the most aggressive Chinese nationalists—tacitly encouraged by authorities—say far more is open to claim, including the island of Okinawa, home to 1.3 million people and major U.S. military bases.

The biggest of the Ryukyu Islands, which stretch for about 1,000 kilometers from Japan’s mainland almost to Taiwan, Okinawa was the center of the Ryukyuan kingdom, which pledged fealty to both Chinese emperors and Japanese feudal lords.

For hundreds of years it paid tribute to China’s Ming and Qing dynasties, until it was absorbed by Japan in 1879.

The people of the Ryukyus are considered more closely related to Japan in ethnic and linguistic terms, than to China.

Some Chinese, however, see historical and cultural ties as a basis for sovereignty and dismiss Japan’s possession of the islands as a legacy of its aggressive expansionism that ended in World War II defeat.

“This kind of thing proves Ryukyu is China’s,” said electrical engineer Zhu Shaobo, looking at a Qing dynasty volume from the 1760s about Ryukyuan students on display at the Imperial College, now a tourist site.

“Ryukyuan students studied hard and the cultural level of some was not inferior to Chinese students,” explains an exhibit panel at the institution, which trained Imperial officials and some foreign students.

The belief that China has a legitimate claim to the Ryukyu Islands has existed among flag-wavers in China—and Taiwan—for years.

But it has been given new attention by the row over the uninhabited islets, known as the Diaoyu islands in China, which claims them, and as the Senkaku chain in Japan, which controls them.

In recent anti-Japan protests in China, some demonstrators carried signs reading: “Retake Ryukyu” and “Take back Okinawa”.

China’s government does not make such claims, but state media have carried articles and commentaries questioning Japan’s authority.

In an article carried by state media in July, People’s Liberation Army Major General Luo Yuan wrote: “The Ryukyu Kingdom had always been an independent kingdom directly under the Chinese imperial government before it was seized by Japan in 1879.”

The kingdom, which lasted from 1429 until 1879, had a complex history wedged between powerful neighbors.

In return for tribute to Chinese emperors, trade and cultural ties flourished. But from the early 17th century, it came under pressure from Japan, suffering a punitive invasion and demands for loyalty and tribute.

Nominal independence, however, was maintained, and the “dual subordination” continued until the late 19th century when a modernizing Japan could no longer tolerate Ryukyu’s vague status.

Western and Japanese scholars say Okinawa’s links to China are no basis for sovereignty claims today. Many states were part of a China-centered structure of international relations in Asia.

“It was a system of cultural subordination and also a way of the Chinese empire attempting to control trade,” said Gregory Smits, an expert on Ryukyu history at Pennsylvania State University.

Experts see little chance of Beijing pushing a demand for Okinawa.

Gavan McCormack, emeritus professor at Australian National University, called any claim “quite unrealistic,” adding it was probably “an extreme position to try and attract Japan back to the negotiating table.”

Jia Qingguo, an international relations expert at Peking University, added: “I don’t think the Chinese government wants to further complicate the already complicated issue.”

Still, questions being raised over Japan’s sovereignty worry Akihiro Kinjo, a 25-year-old Okinawa native and restaurant manager in Beijing.

Okinawa was the site of a deadly 1945 battle between Japan and the United States.

“Our grandmothers experienced war and based on their stories they had a horrible time,” he said.

Under a security treaty with Japan the US maintains major military facilities on the island, and Washington is also making a strategic “pivot” to Asia, raising fears in Beijing of containment.

In August, the World Journal, a military affairs tabloid, carried a cover showing a projectile soaring toward Okinawa under the headline: “People’s Liberation Army guided missile targets Okinawa bases.”

[Coligny]

Time for us to reaffirm our claims toward Hokkaido it seems...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Ezo

[Russell]

Time for us to reaffirm our claims toward Hokkaido it seems...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Ezo

French military advisers.

We know how that went in Vietnam...

[Coligny]

Muwahahahaha... you're assumptions are kewt...

It went perfectly well in Vietnam...

per-fek-tly...

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

French and Dutch having this conversation...kinda like a pot and kettle...Combining the French and Dutch gives you Belgian, and they were the masters of colonialist cock-ups.

Perfidious Albion still provides the best lessons in exploitative colonialism...

[Samurai_Jerk]

French and Dutch having this conversation...kinda like a pot and kettle...Combining the French and Dutch gives you Belgian, and they were the masters of colonialist cock-ups.

Perfidious Albion still provides the best lessons in exploitative colonialism...

What are you talking about? Rwanda was a raging success.

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

Rwanda was a raging success.

You know, it was in a way.

The genocidaires in Rwanda slaughtered people faster than the Nazis had been able to even though the bulk of the killings were carried out using machetes.

[Coligny]

French and Dutch having this conversation...kinda like a pot and kettle...Combining the French and Dutch gives you Belgian, and they were the masters of colonialist cock-ups.

Perfidious Albion still provides the best lessons in exploitative colonialism...

What are you talking about? Rwanda was a raging success.

Can we just stop talking aboot rwanda as if it was a French only matter... Clinton was less than a beej away from this mess...

[Samurai_Jerk]

French and Dutch having this conversation...kinda like a pot and kettle...Combining the French and Dutch gives you Belgian, and they were the masters of colonialist cock-ups.

Perfidious Albion still provides the best lessons in exploitative colonialism...

What are you talking about? Rwanda was a raging success.

Can we just stop talking aboot rwanda as if it was a French only matter... Clinton was less than a beej away from this mess...

I was talking about Belgian colonization.

[Taro Toporific]

The drama continues to heat up as China clashes with the Japan over ownership of bird poop covered rocks in the East China Sea, Japanese naval boats give chase around Mifune Islets on October 16, 2012...

japanese-navy-defends.jpg

real restofthestory

[Coligny]

...Japanese naval boats...

as opposed to all their air and land boats...

[Coligny]

While the steam pressure is rising in China... It's civilian steam... sure the dinosaurs in power let them do...

But for now it's just (an insane amount of) inbreds getting all worked up...

Have yet to see more than loud mouth on the military side of things... (usually, after writing this I tend to spend a very bad night waiting for the bad news in the morning...)

ok... this is not moving in a good direction:

http://ex-skf.blogspot.jp/2012/10/china ... -over.html

[cstaylor]

While the steam pressure is rising in China... It's civilian steam... sure the dinosaurs in power let them do...

But for now it's just (an insane amount of) inbreds getting all worked up...

Have yet to see more than loud mouth on the military side of things... (usually, after writing this I tend to spend a very bad night waiting for the bad news in the morning...)

ok... this is not moving in a good direction:

http://ex-skf.blogspot.jp/2012/10/china ... -over.html

Think they'll go nuclear?

[Coligny]

I hope they want the islands, not war...

With 0 input on the Cn press and tv coverage and the political status of the member of their governement, can't guess anything.

As long as there is nobody there, they should just go and setup camp . Invade without having to fire a bullet. That would put Tokyo in a corner... either go cry to the UN, or send troops and start the fight. Both looking bad... especially since it highlight the emptyness of the island...

[Russell]

The Chinese just want to divert attention away from the Wen family empire.

[gaijinpunch]

ok... this is not moving in a good direction:

http://ex-skf.blogspot.jp/2012/10/china ... -over.html

A friend is a PA for the CEO of the European branch of one of the top three J-auto manufacturers. The company jet (which goes all over the world all the time) was denied landing permits recently, and quite a few of the staffs denied visas.

[Samurai_Jerk]

While the steam pressure is rising in China... It's civilian steam... sure the dinosaurs in power let them do...

But for now it's just (an insane amount of) inbreds getting all worked up...

Have yet to see more than loud mouth on the military side of things... (usually, after writing this I tend to spend a very bad night waiting for the bad news in the morning...)

ok... this is not moving in a good direction:

http://ex-skf.blogspot.jp/2012/10/china ... -over.html

It's the same thing as Obama and Romney talking tough about China before erection day. In other words, meaningless.

[matsuki]

I still say the US finish (yes, I mean finish...they still use this place for practice bombing) bombing these rocks back into the sea. No islands, nothing to dispute.

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

Choko, you would make such a good diplomat...

[matsuki]

Choko, you would make such a good diplomat...

Diplomacy in Asia? Two children fighting over a toy, what do you do? Yep take the toy away

[Coligny]

ok... this is not moving in a good direction:

http://ex-skf.blogspot.jp/2012/10/china ... -over.html

A friend is a PA for the CEO of the European branch of one of the top three J-auto manufacturers. The company jet (which goes all over the world all the time) was denied landing permits recently, and quite a few of the staffs denied visas.

I'll transit throught shangai with me julie mid november to Saigon... wonder how it'll go...

[yanpa]

Just don't mention the war...