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Tsuru wrote: Great. And now the state-of-the-art electrical systems are proving to have particularly annoying teething problems involving smoke and fire.
Tsuru wrote:As brilliant as it is as a piece of engineering and aerodynamic design, it seems to me the 787 headache for Boeing is not over yet. It pains me to say this, but as thrilled as I was to be on the A380 before, I don't think I will be flying on the 787 anytime soon. To think this aircraft is still ETOPS-180 certified and flying passengers over thousands of miles of empty ocean is worrying to me to say the least.
The WSJ is saying the JAL incident at Boston is likely to have consequences for the 787's ETOPS certification. I'm sure the Li-ion batteries present some weight saving over the usual Nicad type used for APU and normal aircraft batteries, but these things have no place on a long-range aircraft. I'm sure the crews of UPS006 and Asiana 991 would agree with that.Coligny wrote:Tsuru wrote: Great. And now the state-of-the-art electrical systems are proving to have particularly annoying teething problems involving smoke and fire.
You know a lot of babies that can kill 300 people because of teething problems ? your life is definately more interesting than mine...Tsuru wrote:As brilliant as it is as a piece of engineering and aerodynamic design, it seems to me the 787 headache for Boeing is not over yet. It pains me to say this, but as thrilled as I was to be on the A380 before, I don't think I will be flying on the 787 anytime soon. To think this aircraft is still ETOPS-180 certified and flying passengers over thousands of miles of empty ocean is worrying to me to say the least.
No shit the bird is still certified... he got his own "retarded engineering" exemption
Tsuru wrote:I'm sure the Li-ion batteries present some weight saving over the usual Nicad type used for APU and normal aircraft batteries, but these things have no place on a long-range aircraft. I'm sure the crews of UPS006 and Asiana 991 would agree with that.
Tsuru wrote:In fairness, an AD has already been issued a while ago regarding the fuel leak issue:
http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guida ... -24-07.pdf
Regarding Li-ion batteries: A car is easy, you just stop by the side of the road, get out and watch the fireworks. In a plane its more a case of: get on the ground in 15 minutes or you're almost certainly dead. That's not an exaggeration, by the way: this is the accepted reality pilots are taught when it comes to inflight fires. And if you think 15 minutes is a lot of time, consider this: even when you throw the anchor out at the cruise altitudes these planes fly at, it takes at least 10 minutes just to get to sea level in a completely balls-out high-speed descent. That does not leave a lot of time to look for a suitable landing spot.
Russell wrote:OK guys, enough.
I'll fly to the U.S. in a couple of weeks by JAL.
Hope they sort it out by then...
Coligny wrote:Russell wrote:OK guys, enough.
I'll fly to the U.S. in a couple of weeks by JAL.
Hope they sort it out by then...
Just in case...
Can I have your stuff if (...) ?
yanpa wrote:Early adopter = sucker willing to trade teething pains for prestige.
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